would you like GT5 to incorporate engine swaps

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Would you like the option to engine swap on GT5

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AuToNoMy
also it should let audi use lamborghini engines and vice versa seeing as audi own lambo and the same with other companys which are linked :) can you imagine droping a lamborghini engine into an audi tt lol :D
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Yeah putting a veyron's engine in a vw lupo or golf because VW owns bugatti.
 
Engine swaps would have to be limited by size. In order for this to work, Gran Turismo would have to have the dimensions and weight of every engine and transmission, then a ghosted car for you to place it in with a limited amount of give for engineering. I know there have been a few examples of mid-engine Honda CRX's, V8's crammed into the back of old Beetles, LS7 Miatas, and other crazy stuff.

While manufacture swaps would appease the Honda and Toyota enthusiasts (like me), it would leave a lot to be desired for the people who would go insane with Frankenstein projects. I know you can actually buy the conversion kit to make your Focus a V8 rear-drive machine. There's a guy who did it with a Saturn too if I'm not mistaken... the point is that engine swap options would have to be custom tailored to each vehicle with limitations for mounting.

If there was an engine swap feature in Gran Turismo, I would also like to see the opportunity to buy the engines from a system like the UCD. It wouldn't be difficult to find a B16 (possibly with a few bolt-ons already), but more upgraded engines and specialty tuned versions would be quite rare. That way not everyone online is running the same swaps. Perhaps the upgrade system should be revised too, because it's too easy to magically triple your hp in under a minute. Although if you pay $20k for a single turbo setup, I would imagine you're paying for the labor to have it done that quickly.
 
gt addict
Yeah putting a veyron's engine in a vw lupo or golf because VW owns bugatti.
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you can probably fit the w16 in the back :sly:
i wish my g27 was compatible with an xbox i loved putting a 800bhp motor in my late 70's camaro. i will never play forza gain cause i dont have the cash to get a 360 wheel and controller play is boring :nervous:
 
This reminds me of the Fiesta Zetec-S that i have on Forza 3... its got a Crammer V8 in it! That IMO is overkill (Hence not actually using the car)
 
ZeGermanBastorD
No, that's not true. :sly:

My X2010 has now around 290.000 km on the clock & you can see the difference. Here are the specs:


X2010 (290.000km):

1042kW/???Nm (used around 20.000km)
1095kW/707Nm (after oil change)
1103kW/712Nm (after engine rebuild)


X2010 (0km, so the engine is not driven in, it will increase to around 1160kW/750Nm after 300-600km):

1126kW/727Nm


So there is a power loss of around 5% after 290.000km which can not be fixed with a engine rebuild.

And with rubber banding (constant lap times) you can clearly see that a heavily used car don't perform like a new one, even after a engine & body rebuild. :)👍
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i have been trying to tell them that but i guess they havent driven a car like my FGT for 16,000 miles with a loss of 4hp permanetly
 
brycepunk
Or, cost a ridiculous amount to pull off (like a Z-06 engine in a VW beetle should cost millions.)
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The Hollywood actor Paul Newman done this back in the 60's or 70's - and it didn't cost millions.

He had a early 60's convertable bug he bought from new and got a race team to stick a V8 where the rear seat and luggage space would normally be.

It was recently sold on a famous Aircooled V-Dub website called Oldbug.com - big up Randy :D

There's many crazy Aircooled dubs flying round with everything from V8's, V6's cossie 4 pots and even Turbo Impreza engines and a porsche 996 drivetrain (albiet this last one was a project - not sure if it ever got finished).

It won't cost millions, VW Beetles have such simple desgign + the body is bolted to the chassis, it'd be very easy for people who have the right experience, qualifications and tools for the job, and certianly wouldn't cost anywhere near a million ££'s or $$'s.

SkateNj
you can probably fit the w16 in the back :sly:
i wish my g27 was compatible with an xbox i loved putting a 800bhp motor in my late 70's camaro. i will never play forza gain cause i dont have the cash to get a 360 wheel and controller play is boring :nervous:
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There's a W12 Lupo flying around.. Loads of 1.8T'd Lupo's aswell pushing 300bhp or more.

In general - as mentioned on the two engine swap threads already, feasible and popular engine and drivetrain swaps that are regularly carried out in real life should be looked into by Polyphony.

But then again when the tuning is as ridiculous as it is on GT5, I think we're banging our heads against the wall, they can't even get tuning right for normal cars, so don't get your hopes up for engine swaps.

How come there's a HPA twin turbo Audi TT & Golf, but you can't charge the MKIV R32 - yet how many hundreds or thousands of R32's have been 'charged in real life throughout the world??

ECU chip on a Schwimmwagon, Samba and Split - nice........ yes, of course.. Oh look, ABS and ASM etc etc too... WOW, I'm sure when Ferdinand Porsche put the lil ol bug together he hid these things somewhere where millions of owners would never find them for the next 70 years and more.

Yawn...sigh...roll eyes.....

I'd absolutely love feasable and realistic engine / drivetrain swaps to be in the game - I just can't see Polyphony doing anything other than their own agenda.
 
I wouldnt mind it, but PD would have to limit it. As far as I am aware with the Forza version, there were only a few different engines available for each car. That is a nice setup. Not putting any random engine in any old car, thats just silly.
 
Camaroyenko
And I agree with the same manufacturer thing-you'd be seeing X1 engines in Fiat 500s...
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Why is that bad? Serious question. There isn't really any negative consequence to that. While on the other hand, disallowing such a switch simply reduces the realism for the game. You can fit any engine into anything. Somethings just take more work.

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Mike240SX
-Cost - The cost of the swap should reflect the amount of custom work involved. Putting a RB26 into a S13? Not that much. SBC into a Miata? Little more. Putting a RB26 into a Miata? Plenty.
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I'm sick of credits. And all of you are probably sick of me saying that. But I'm sick of credits. Why are you going to force someone to grind some boring race 5 billion times just to have a nice car? If it's for "game balance", that should be up to the player. That's how it is right now. Anyone can start the game with the X1, just borrow it from someone. Veyron powered Minis aren't going to be very threatening.


But of course, in the unlikely event that PD comes to their senses and creates a game mode where driving comes first, then they can do whatever they want with GT Mode.
 
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^ Would it fit??

But anyways, I would love feasible engine swaps to be available, maybe some a bit to the limit like this one:



Ofcourse, it will only happen if Kaz wants it, although he'll likely add free-roam, more suits and helmets, maybe functioning seatbelts :rolleyes:
 
Even car manufacturers themselves sometimes create rather strange cross brand hybrids, like the 1971 Pontiac Pegasus one-off prototype build under Ferrari-mad GM design chief Bill Mitchell.
It's a Pontiac Firebird with a Ferrari Daytona-sourced V12 engine (Pegasus, get it?).
They did tweak the Firebird styling somewhat though.

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I think if they did implement it, they'd have restrictions, like you can't put a Veyron engine in the MK1 Golf but you can put an R32 engine in there and make it 4WD, i'd really like that :D
 
Raven_WET01
Engine swaps would have to be limited by size. In order for this to work, Gran Turismo would have to have the dimensions and weight of every engine and transmission, then a ghosted car for you to place it in with a limited amount of give for engineering. I know there have been a few examples of mid-engine Honda CRX's, V8's crammed into the back of old Beetles, LS7 Miatas, and other crazy stuff.

While manufacture swaps would appease the Honda and Toyota enthusiasts (like me), it would leave a lot to be desired for the people who would go insane with Frankenstein projects. I know you can actually buy the conversion kit to make your Focus a V8 rear-drive machine. There's a guy who did it with a Saturn too if I'm not mistaken... the point is that engine swap options would have to be custom tailored to each vehicle with limitations for mounting.

If there was an engine swap feature in Gran Turismo, I would also like to see the opportunity to buy the engines from a system like the UCD. It wouldn't be difficult to find a B16 (possibly with a few bolt-ons already), but more upgraded engines and specialty tuned versions would be quite rare. That way not everyone online is running the same swaps. Perhaps the upgrade system should be revised too, because it's too easy to magically triple your hp in under a minute. Although if you pay $20k for a single turbo setup, I would imagine you're paying for the labor to have it done that quickly.
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Use forza's system

Sorry for double posting
 
I think some cars should be allowed some engines from other cars, but the should be a limit like you said about the X2010 and Fiat xD. Like in real life, 1.3 & 4 Honda VTEC engines are capable of being fitted into a Classic Mini.
For example...

God! I love that Mini :drool:
 
In my opinion that possibility would just completely ruined the whole game...that fits in games like Nfs,Mario karts,etc...maybe if many of you wants,would be nice to add it in arcade mode only?Voted against
 
It be fun only if they dont go crazy, for example: take out the 1.6l 4cyl in ur civic and throw in a 1.8l 4cyl out of a GSR integra (what I did in real life), or maybe take ur a Audi a4 2.0T and swap it for a 3.0T or a even a 4.2l out of a RS4. Just keep it simple dont go over board
 
If yould be neat with engine change, as long as its realistic. For example adding a 2jzgte engine in a mk3 supra, or a modern LS engine in a old vette.
 
danjee
As long as all the VAG branches are interchangeable... Bugatti W16 in a Golf anyone? :D
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God I love VAG. R32 engine into a Mk1, then twin turbo it. Just like real life.
What about the 5 cylinder Audi Quattro engine into the Beetle RSI?
Also, have a look on Youtube for the W12 VW Lupo. Madness.

I want it all and I want it...........................now.
 
Well, even though engine swap would be hot, PD need to add more basic stuff to the game to start with. Then they could add additional stuff....
 
GraphiteGB
In GT5 there is never any permanent power loss.
With engine rebuild option You can regain all the lost power in GT5.
( As well as a oil change and car wash which is included in the engine rebuild price )
The Poster wants engine wear to be permanent like rear engines which it is not currently in GT5.
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Er, yes it is. After 13,000-ish miles, horsepower starts dropping and stays dropped.
 
I voted no because I think something like this could be used to cheat the PP system and bring even more horror to those trying to hold close online races.

However, I do think it would be a cool idea to be able to swap certain engines from other cars ONLY if it was kept under certain limits. The new engine would actually have to be compatible with the gearbox and the size of the engine bay of the new car. Imagine a BMW V12 inside a Mini, not only would it be almost impossible to get the damn thing to fit in the first place, most of the engine (cooling etc.) and the chassis of the car would have to be drastically modified and then the gearbox would still probably explode under the power.

Honestly, I think it's not something the game really needs.
 
Usually when engine swaps are done, you take the compatible gearbox as well, or another one that can handle the power. But first we need more in depth tuning, and more tuning parts to begin with.
 
If it took into account the changes in the physics of the car.i.e new weight and handling if the chassis had to be modified.Then yes I would love it.But being GT there will probably be a bug allowing a skyline or mx5 to have X1 engines.
 

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