Would you pay for extra trade slots?

[jgancherjr]

So, let me get this straight:

-You would pay up to 1/4th the cost of a new game, just to make your life easier.

-You would pay that money to "unlock" this feature.

-You would pay this money to the people who "locked" it in the first place and made your life harder.

-And somehow you think this is worth it.

I can't say that I understand your willingness to pay the people who screwed you out of doing what you want to do.

Umm it's 10$ ... Look at EA, they have DLC that comes out for games the same day the game releases stuff that should've been in the game to begin with but they know the can bank $10 more right off the bat.. I'm not gonna argue with you and considering I am only missing two cars in the entire game (chrome line Jag and lemon Bugatti) I would pay the 10-15$ just to help other people out...

 

[TwistyDrift]

No way. I could add $4 more to buy me my favourite track Track Space I/II.

 

[Tornado]

Umm it's 10$ ... Look at EA, they have DLC that comes out for games the same day the game releases stuff that should've been in the game to begin with but they know the can bank $10 more right off the bat.

You mean like the Chromeline and Stealth cars, which were nothing more than an unlock code for content present on every disc that you paid extra for by buying one of the various special edition copies of GT5?




Your post shows both a fundamental misunderstanding of how game deadlines work (there can be a good month or more between when a game is finished and when it releases; and there is plenty of time in that space to create new content, particularly if they were already working on it before the game went gold); and makes the massive (but common) fallacy that because some other company does something bad with their DLC practices (at least something that you've assigned as automatically being bad due to your misunderstanding) that it makes it alright when PD does something worse. When EA releases Day One DLC, that is at least new content that someone made that you are compensating them for the development of. Paying PD to remove the restrictions they imposed on an already lackluster system is paying PD to do nothing, and it's even worse then when PD answered calls for fixing how poor the painting system in the game was by charging you for special paint chips.


And if you're willing to do that because "Umm it's 10$," I'm curious what else you would be willing to pay PD for when they don't do anything or are reverting something that they purposely made that way. How about patches? GT5 shipped with an inability to modify gear ratios. Despite that being their screwup that they apologized for and quickly set about fixing, would you have paid them to fix it? What about this PP screwup that they've done with the latest patch? Would you pay them for DLC that did nothing more than revert the system back to how it was before? Let's say that in the next patch they disabled the log in multiplier. Would you pay them to get that back too?

 

[IvanOffalich]

You mean like the Chromeline and Stealth cars, which were nothing more than an unlock code for content present on every disc that you paid extra for by buying one of the various special edition copies of GT5?




Your post shows both a fundamental misunderstanding of how game deadlines work (there can be a good month or more between when a game is finished and when it releases; and there is plenty of time in that space to create new content, particularly if they were already working on it before the game went gold); and makes the massive (but common) fallacy that because some other company does something bad with their DLC practices (at least something that you've assigned as automatically being bad due to your misunderstanding) that it makes it alright when PD does something worse. When EA releases Day One DLC, that is at least new content that someone made that you are compensating them for the development of. Paying PD to remove the restrictions they imposed on an already lackluster system is paying PD to do nothing, and it's even worse then when PD answered calls for fixing how poor the painting system in the game was by charging you for special paint chips.


And if you're willing to do that because "Umm it's 10$," I'm curious what else you would be willing to pay PD for when they don't do anything or are reverting something that they purposely made that way. How about patches? GT5 shipped with an inability to modify gear ratios. Despite that being their screwup that they apologized for and quickly set about fixing, would you have paid them to fix it? What about this PP screwup that they've done with the latest patch? Would you pay them for DLC that did nothing more than revert the system back to how it was before?

I'd like to thank you for being logical on a message board. Sadly, it is rare to see this nowadays.

 

[jgancherjr]

And if you're willing to do that because "Umm it's 10$," I'm curious what else you would be willing to pay PD for when they don't do anything or are reverting something that they purposely made that way

This was the main point of my argument, I understand where you are coming from on the rest of your statement..

ALMOST any EA game charges at least $10 for a DLC and what do you get?? In "Most Wanted" $20 gets u a shortcut and 5 cars.. Last I checked $20 gets you everything on GT5 (20+ cars and several tracks) my argument is that when GT5 came out, shortly after people were selling cars on eBay, that is why PD instated the trade limit (price and quantity) .. Seeing how the game is a couple years old now and PD shows absolutely no sign of being "money hungry" like most game development companies I would gladly pay for the ability to send unlimited cars as it would be no different then EA selling a shortcut to "unlock everything"

 

[Exorcet]

I would gladly pay for the ability to send unlimited cars as it would be no different then EA selling a shortcut to "unlock everything"

Yes, it would be no different. They're both ridiculous.

 

[Tornado]

Seeing how the game is a couple years old now and PD shows absolutely no sign of being "money hungry" like most game development companies

Livery editor? Nah. That'll be a dollar to get 100 one-use paints. Modern online trading system? Nah. That'll be $10 to let you gift cars without restrictions.

 

[jgancherjr]

Really... The $0.99 paint pack makes them money hungry? Hmm I'll have to ponder that one

 

[Exorcet]

Really... The $0.99 paint pack makes them money hungry? Hmm I'll have to ponder that one

It's $99 worth of packs if you happen to want to paint 5% of your 2000 cars the same color.

 

[jgancherjr]

It's $99 worth of packs if you happen to want to paint 5% of your 2000 cars the same color.

Well u make a valid point, but you can also dupe the car with the DLC paint on it without losing the paint, when I do trading I usually ask the person if they want a DLC paint on their car and rims 👍 yes you may argue you can't send all cars, but besides the Gt-Chrome and the GT-Polarized I have managed to find extremely similar colors to the rest.. And yes I am guilty of buying 3 paint packs to use 3 GT-Polarized 005's on DLC cars, but again this is my personally choice, no one is forcing anyone to buy multiple or even one paint pack.. If your favorite color is in the DLC pack, the reason is that you bought the DLC pack and one of the paints that you used THEN became your favorite.. We have talked before Exorcet and I respect your views on here, so with that being said this IS my opinion and I really am not here to argue

 

[Monatsende]

[...] I am only missing two cars in the entire game (chrome line Jag and lemon Bugatti) [...]

So you have the GT-R Academy Special on an European account?

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

I sure would

 

[Guardian]

No 🤬 way am I paying my money, to send a not-too-great virtual car to a stranger on the Internet.

If they removed that bl**dy stupid limit, then I might.

 

[r3dnekteddybear]

Im sorry to say i would not.

 

[Racin510s]

No I would not either. Like mentioned before originally there was no limit. Don't know who it was at PD to make this 🤬 rule. Especially when those few moments could have been put to better use than changing the Honda Weider sound 3 times. You buy DLC like Spa & Motegi and then there are no Seasonals with those tracks? Oh I almost forgot way back when there was a Spa Seasonal but PD took it away but I hope I made the point.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Absolutely not. And what scares me more is suggesting this idea for GT6.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I wouldn't mind giving more, but thinking back to the beginning days of the game - I can see why there was a ban.

But also - I don't think there was a ban way back then.

I guess the ban is in place to not allow a dirty racer who has been banned from clean rooms to quickly build up a new profile and torment those rooms all over again. So I do support them.

I don't trade though, so...

 

[Nitrous ox]

Some users have already paid for extra trades.

Like myself, if you buy an extra PS3 you get an extra trade, sure, you need multiple accounts, but once your set up, its a very useful way of extracting extra trades.

Don't forget you get additional OCD garages with each PS3, so multiple colours.

Once I figured out you only get 2000 cars per account, that automatically meant I needed multiple accounts to collect all the cars. So its just inevitable to have multiple PS3's, and the benefits are:

1/ Multiple OCD's
2/ don't ever need to USB trick the main account
3/ Ripp all your tickets on the second PS3, trade and reset

Once I finish I'll just sell all the PS3's, bought a few cheap as fixer uppers, should get my money back, depending on when PS4 releases 👍

 

[goukipau]

No, I started trading without trade and credit limit (where the servers couldn't handle it anymore ) Now it's not even worth anymore. In my opinion, they should remove the credit and trade limit, the game's old already and not many can benefit from these trades very much.

So you have the GT-R Academy Special on an European account?

I do have 2 of these, 1 even still in ticket form Can't you have those on a Euro??

 

[Samus]

Some users have already paid for extra trades.

Like myself, if you buy an extra PS3 you get an extra trade, sure, you need multiple accounts, but once your set up, its a very useful way of extracting extra trades.

Don't forget you get additional OCD garages with each PS3, so multiple colours.

Once I figured out you only get 2000 cars per account, that automatically meant I needed multiple accounts to collect all the cars. So its just inevitable to have multiple PS3's, and the benefits are:

1/ Multiple OCD's
2/ don't ever need to USB trick the main account
3/ Ripp all your tickets on the second PS3, trade and reset

Once I finish I'll just sell all the PS3's, bought a few cheap as fixer uppers, should get my money back, depending on when PS4 releases 👍

Jesus wept, I can't believe how much time and money some people put into this 'trading' business on GT5. It's astonishing, day in day out sending things, having trading 'schedules', huge 'garages', it's like a full time job for some people it seems. Madness.

 

[Broseph]

Some users have already paid for extra trades.

Like myself, if you buy an extra PS3 you get an extra trade, sure, you need multiple accounts, but once your set up, its a very useful way of extracting extra trades.

Don't forget you get additional OCD garages with each PS3, so multiple colours.

Once I figured out you only get 2000 cars per account, that automatically meant I needed multiple accounts to collect all the cars. So its just inevitable to have multiple PS3's, and the benefits are:

1/ Multiple OCD's
2/ don't ever need to USB trick the main account
3/ Ripp all your tickets on the second PS3, trade and reset

Once I finish I'll just sell all the PS3's, bought a few cheap as fixer uppers, should get my money back, depending on when PS4 releases 👍

This may be the most ridiculous thing I have seen someone post here.

 

[Exorcet]

I wouldn't mind giving more, but thinking back to the beginning days of the game - I can see why there was a ban.

But also - I don't think there was a ban way back then.

I guess the ban is in place to not allow a dirty racer who has been banned from clean rooms to quickly build up a new profile and torment those rooms all over again. So I do support them.

I don't trade though, so...

Doesn't work. Start the game with no progress and you'll be able to enter any race from 0 PP to about 700 (whatever the Zonda R is).

Not to mention, bad players can be kicked. There is no benefit to the limits.

 

[tazmanuk]

To all those that do not trade you could always gift somebody a car and make their day.

👍

 

[Guardian]

I can't believe how much time and money some people put into this 'trading' business on GT5. It's astonishing, day in day out sending things, having trading 'schedules', huge 'garages', it's like a full time job for some people it seems. Madness.

^This.

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Seriously? You're genuinely willing to spend your own cash on a whole new console, just to send some meaningless cars?
Now I've spent my cash on some pretty silly stuff; but this beats them all.

Wow. Just wow....

To all those that do not trade you could always gift somebody a car and make their day.

I do this quite alot. Whenever I'm cruising and someone says "Hey nice xxxx", I'll usually say "Cheers, do you have one?" and they'll usually say "no I can't find one" or "no, but I really want one".

So I'll just tell them to add me and I'll send them it.
If you're not trading and you find a decent, polite guy to race/cruise with then why not make their day(?)

 

[DGXR]

No I would not pay to give or receive more gifts in GT5.

 

[Jump_Ace]

That is a great idea; paying for more trade slots. I think I'd like more of a subscription system for trade slots. Subscribe to them for a month or two using your PSN wallet then when you have just about every car you want, you can stop. I know when the game first came out, I likely would have used a system like that in the month of January 👍

Something like .99 cents a month for one extra slot, or $4.99 for unlimited trading for the whole month.

Jerome

 

[Nitrous ox]

No, I never said I buy brand new console, I pay between $20 to $100 all up to fix a YLOD console for instance, now if I use it for a year, thats 365 trades + 26 OCDs, then I plan to sell it, works out very cheaply, and to those that knock trading or this forum as wasting time:

At least I don't go to forums that I have no interest in and tell the community they are wasting their time on what I dictate to be ridiculous. Some may say any time spent on any video game is a ridiculous waste, and I respect that they have that opinion, I would just say loosen up its just an interest, what right does anyone have to say where I spend my time and resources, and how I choose to be entertained, I like being able to fully complete things.

Wow now off to find a vegetarian forum to tell them all how good bacon tastes 👍

 

[Nurburgthing.]

No 🤬 way am I paying my money, to send a not-too-great virtual car to a stranger on the Internet.

If they removed that bl**dy stupid limit, then I might.

Couldn't have put it better myself

Jesus wept, I can't believe how much time and money some people put into this 'trading' business on GT5. It's astonishing, day in day out sending things, having trading 'schedules', huge 'garages', it's like a full time job for some people it seems. Madness.

I know. the mind boggles

What PD could do is implement some sort of login bonus for gifting people more than usual.
They could also let people use the trade slots they miss.
If I miss my trade today, i'll have 2 lots of slots tomorrow and so on.

It'll be a cold day in hell when I pay for that.

 

[TwistyDrift]

What PD could do is implement some sort of login bonus for gifting people more than usual.
They could also let people use the trade slots they miss.
If I miss my trade today, i'll have 2 lots of slots tomorrow and so on.

Great Idea, one problem is that PD doesn't look at forums -_-. I don't think they are going to implement anything that we have been asking for.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Doesn't work. Start the game with no progress and you'll be able to enter any race from 0 PP to about 700 (whatever the Zonda R is).

Not to mention, bad players can be kicked. There is no benefit to the limits.

You are right. It only takes one car.

I now denounce my previous post and change my opinion to none.

I don't trade so I don't have a horse in this race.

I do like getting well tuned gift cars though.