Would you rather?

[JAHHAJ]

It was a failry tough choice between the CR-Z and the Veloster but, the Veloster has more horespower and hasn't been around for as long as the CR-Z.

 

[AudiMan2011]

Mazda 6 MPS vs Legacy: Mazda. All day, every day.

$20k cars: xB, Soul and Cube are out immediately because square cars are never cool. Mini is out as it's old hat. Same reason for why the Beetle is out. Veloster looks good but is still odd with the 2+1 door layout, so I'll take the CR-Z.

 

[Rage Racer]

Mazda 6 MPS vs Legacy - The Subaru is harder to maintain because of the boxer engine, but I'll still pick it. I'd rather take a faster car than a cheaper one to upgrade it then.

$20k cars - Mini for sure. I just like it, despite of some people saying it's a car for girls. It is stylish and very fun to drive.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

I'd have the BMW Mini.

 

[Celicaas]

Would you ratehr have


1985 Toyota Cressida

OR

Nissan laurel C32

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> ...

Not everything is a "step above" in the STi. The transmission (barely noticeable unless you're cruising) and the Brembos (still fade very quickly) are about it. Bang for buck and therefore your "smiles-per-dollar" is actually much further in favour of the standard WRX than the STi if we talk new vehicles. Plus we're talking here about the first of the G3 STis vs. the post-facelift WRX where EVERYTHING was improved substantially. The styling, the power, the handling. The only reason I suggested the STi is because the 6-speed transmission is slightly better suited to big power numbers as was being suggested by the person looking at them. Anything else, it would have been standard WRX no competition.

^ Well, unlike you guys in Australia. We in the US don't get as many option as you do over there. Plus most of your engines are 2.0L/EJ20 while here in the US we have the lazier 2.5L/EJ25, our EJ205 (only offered on the WRX) was phased out in '06. So yes, here in the US, our STI is a huge step compared to the WRX. It really is not the case for the rest of the world.

See, if it was a 4GEN Liberty GT we were comparing to the MPS I'd be all over it. However it is the rather questionable insect-like 5GEN.

^ The pic wasn't showing so I was asuming that it was the 4th-gen...I totally dislike the 5th-gen 'Camry w/ AWD'. So I take my decision back and pick the MPS/Mazdaspeed 6.

Really?

^ YES! Really. I dislike almost anything A/T. Unless if I have no choice...

Save the Manuals!​

Next up: quirky US-spec small cars.

2013 Scion xB (158 horsepower/162 lb-ft, 5-Speed M/T, 3027 lbs, ~$17,555)

2013 Kia Soul + (164 horsepower/148 lb-ft, 6-Speed M/T, 2707 lbs, ~$16,700)

2013 Nissan Cube S (122 horsepower/127 lb-ft, 6-Speed M/T, 2789 lbs, ~$16,760)

2013 Hyundai Veloster (138 horsepower/123 lb-ft, 6-Speed M/T, 2584 lbs, ~$17,600)

2013 Mini Cooper (121 horsepower/114 lb-ft, 6-Speed M/T, 2535 lbs, ~$19,700)

2013 Volkswagen Beetle 2.5 (170 horsepower/177 lb-ft, 5-Speed M/T, 2939 lbs, ~$19,995)

2013 Fiat 500 Pop (101 horsepower/98 lb-ft, 5-Speed M/T, 2363 lbs, ~$16,000)

2013 Honda CR-Z (130 horsepower/140 lb-ft, 6-Speed M/T, 2657 lbs, ~$19,975)

^ Funny that (almost) everyone picked the CR-Z. While I LOATHE the CR-Z, I don't care what Honda is trying to aim here. It neither promises nor performs it's intended purposes.

-> When I saw the Cube, it was alright until I recalled myself seeing the previous-gen Cube. The first and only time I saw the last-gen Cube was at the '04 LA Auto Show, it was better designed, ergonomically better, and has that cult-like profile. This current one is as bland as as the current Versa/Almera/Tiida. The Cube just tries too hard to be cute, but fails to do so.

-> The Hardtop Cooper on the other hand is a very handy machine. But overall, its not for everyone. The rear seat is tiny so does the cargo space. It should've been the Clubman Cooper, but it goes over the budget. But still compared to the CR-Z, this would be my choice.

-> The (not so) tiny Fiat begins to grow on me, slowly. But the Pop model never catches my eye at all! Sure hot model chicks drive them, but I still don't see the case here...I'd rather have the Turbo model instead. (still undercuts the 20K bracket barely!)

-> I like the New New Beetle's cool looks. Everything is better compared to its previous-gen, it has a sense of 'quality' into it. But I drove the Turbo model, then I saw some of its faults: Parallel park this bug and you feel like your brain want to get out of your head! A trait that was carried over from the previous gen. And my head is telling me why get the Beetle on which I could get a much, much, much better Golf for less money!?

-> Ahhh! The Veloster, it is a very good kit! I even go as far of calling it the real successor to the CR-X, you listening Honda!? Huh!? It is a unique car for unique people, I drove it and I had fun with it. It has that AE86 feeling on the drivers seat (I used to have an AE86 GT-S) on which is confy and focused at the same time!

-> Ever since I drove the xB, I've always recommend the xB to those people who shops for either a Matrix, RAV4, xD, Prius C, Camry, & Corolla. For me, it's the best combination Toyota for 'Yota loyalist. The xB is roomy, ultra practical, and faultless. The only drawbacks are its visibility and off-center gauges, but it's still better than the other Toyota's I've mentioned above.

-> I really like the Soul! Too bad there were no M/T on its top-level SX trim. the '+' makes up for that. Despite it's bulky size and design, it is lighter than you think! It drives better than the xB, and girls will love its higher visibility. But the next-gen is coming with better kit.

^ So out of all the 8 listed, I pick 3 of them. Which is the Soul, Veloster and the MINI.

Would you rather have


1985 Toyota Cressida

OR

Nissan laurel C32

^ Easy, the Cressida of course! Because 2-JZ potential. And the Cressida is the symbol of giving the 🤬 to all Camry and Avalon drivers everywhere!

 

[Lock2Lock]

Mini Cooper all day long.

 

[Zyla]

Mini Cooper all day long.

No.

 

[Xavier2342]

xB vs. Soul vs. Cube vs. Veloster vs. Mini vs. Beetle vs. Fiat vs. CR-Z

I'll take the Mini just because I don't see too many of them on the road in comparison to all the other cars of the bunch.

Toyota Cressida vs. Nissan Laurel C32

I'll take the Cressida just because of what The Vanishing Boy said about it... lol


Additionally, I just want to say thanks to the members who posted their opinions about the '08 WRX STi vs. '11 WRX. I have quite some time left before I buy a car, so all your feedback is gratefully appreciated. I think I'm leaning towards the '08 WRX STI Hatchback but I'm now also looking to Evo's. I've never owned a performance oriented JDM car so this will be a new and exciting experience as a car enthusiast.

 

[spikeyhairdude]

Crz

 

[Murcie_LP640]

-> ...

^ Well, unlike you guys in Australia. We in the US don't get as many option as you do over there. Plus most of your engines are 2.0L/EJ20 while here in the US we have the lazier 2.5L/EJ25, our EJ205 (only offered on the WRX) was phased out in '06. So yes, here in the US, our STI is a huge step compared to the WRX. It really is not the case for the rest of the world.

Dunno where you heard that from. We got the EJ25 in MY06+ too.

The JDM is the only market that stuck with the EJ20.

Also what I'm trying to say is, yes the STi is more car, but not more enough to actually justify its price premium over the WRX. The WRX presents 90-95% of the STi's performance for a much cheaper price. What exactly do you pay for in the STi?

 

[Doog]

^ So out of all the 8 listed, I pick 3 of them. Which is the Soul, Veloster and the MINI.

Psst...

You can only choose one...

xB VS Soul VS Cube VS Veloster VS Mini VS Beetle VS Fiat VS CR-Z

Yay for process of elimination. The xB is a nice car, obviously not as cool as the unapologetically boxy first generation, but I still think it's alright. But compared to the Soul, it just doesn't stack up. The Soul looks much more modern on the outside (the xB looks just fine though) and has a much more inviting interior. I imagine interior quality's up to par or better than the aging Scion. The Cube's a neat little car, but I like the second generation model that we never got more. The Cube's interior is alright, but the Soul's insides are much more interesting. The Veloster's a cool hatchback, a little cooler than the Soul. The Veloster's out because the Mini, Beetle and CR-Z exist, and those are just better. The Fiat's out for the same reason; I just keep liking the 500 less and less. The CR-Z's a really slick little hatch, and even though it's a hybrid, that doesn't bother me much. The only hybrids I hate are those stupid hybrid supercars; leave 'em alone (). The CR-Z also has an interior similar to the Civic, which is to say it's futuristic without looking stupid. But then there's the Beetle, which I like a whole lot more than the gay feminine '98-'10 model. The interior's improved a whole lot, and the outside manages to look a great deal more masculine, and even a bit premium. I'd consider owning one, and I'm the one who likes Minis. That makes the choice tough, so I'll break it into two conditions. If I'm still living at home, where I have access to a very nice supercharged Mini, I'd take the Beetle. Might as well embrace the variety. Now if I lived alone, I'd take the Mini, because even in base form it's a hoot to drive. You barely have to put your foot in it and it's hurling itself to illegal speeds; it feels like a lot more than 121 horsepower. The steering's lighter than the old one, so it's easier to live with. It also rides a lot better, and it's a little quieter. So yeah.

Cressida VS Laurel

I'll take the Cressida. The Laurel looks a little gaudy, like an 80s Chrysler New Yorker, which is always a bad thing to have. The Cressida's a little nerdy looking, but it looks well built, and I'm sure it'll last forever and be fairly comfortable. Seems like a fairly nice car.

 

[xXKingJoshXx]

$20,000 cars: Definitely the Beetle. I'll use the $5 I saved on a gallon and a half of gas.

Toyota v. Nissan: Toyota. I'm just guessing it's the better car...

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> ...

Additionally, I just want to say thanks to the members who posted their opinions about the '08 WRX STi vs. '11 WRX. I have quite some time left before I buy a car, so all your feedback is gratefully appreciated. I think I'm leaning towards the '08 WRX STI Hatchback but I'm now also looking to Evo's. I've never owned a performance oriented JDM car so this will be a new and exciting experience as a car enthusiast.

^ If you want to have a major hoot on a performance car, get the STI. If you want a time attack car and not much else, then go with the Evo. In comparison, the Evo is boring to go flat out. It feels like you're just a piece of meat along for a ride. Not like the STI thou; despite it's a tad slower, it rewards you overwhelmingly! Infact, the STI's is on my top 5 most rewarding/best cars I've ever driven, only bested by the E46 M3 and the S2000.

Dunno where you heard that from. We got the EJ25 in MY06+ too.

^ I wasn't aware of that.

Also what I'm trying to say is, yes the STi is more car, but not more enough to actually justify its price premium over the WRX. The WRX presents 90-95% of the STi's performance for a much cheaper price. What exactly do you pay for in the STi?

^ The transmission? Some intricate suspention bits? The DCCD center diff? I would think the WRX is not 90-95% of the STI, but more like 70-75%.

Psst...

^ Oh ok, ok. I'll pick the Veloster then since I haven't driven the MINI Hardtop and the Souls seats are too flat in comparison to the Veloster.

 

[HELLAFLUSH240SX]

Between the Toyota Cressida and the Nissan Laurel C32 I have to go with the Cressida, it just looks better to me.

 

[VspecZR1GT2RS89]

Xb vs. Soul vs. Cube vs. Volester vs. CR-Z vs. Fiat 500 vs. Mini Cooper vs. VW Beetle:

Hmmmmm..... The Cube is off since the new one is down right ugly and hideous. The Xb and Soul have better looks and better performance than that junk. I like the older Cubes more.

The XB and Soul are amazing boxy cars and they have grown on me a lot ever since they came out. But if I could chose more than one these two would been mine, but there's better choices....

This Fiat Pop 500 sounds like a Barbie car, I'll gladly take the base 500, turbo version or even better... Abriath 500.

Mini Cooper is a good one, but the Beetle, cR-Z and Volester is here....

CR-Z, Volester and Beetle. Ugh I can't chose between these three cars!!! .... I'll go with the Volester on this one here. Turbocharged Volester on the rocks.

Toyota vs. Nissan: Like Van said, the Cressida hands down! And a 1JZ twin turbo with the works and pushing around 490hp. Perfect for a sleeper and part drift car.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Think I might go with the Mini, and the Nissan.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

-> ...

^ The transmission? Some intricate suspention bits? The DCCD center diff? I would think the WRX is not 90-95% of the STI, but more like 70-75%.

Those extra pieces, if you've actually driven a G3 post-facelift WRX and STi, make very little difference in the performance of the STi over the WRX in the real world.

The transmission is the most noticeable piece and it is a great transmission. But it doesn't make the STi worth at least $8k more than the WRX in the US and a cool $20k more here in Australia. There's really that little in it.

 

[Xavier2342]

2013 Toyota Tacoma

or

2013 Nissan Frontier

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Frontier because its a little bit more uncommon than the Toyota.

 

[Bodyguard]

Frontier vs Tacoma:
I'd take the Tacoma, I just love the way it looks. It was a hard choice, though, as I love Nissan pick-ups!

Since we're on the topic of pick-ups, would you rather have a:

Ford F-150 Raptor

or

Dodge RAM

 

[JAHHAJ]

Cressida, Nissasn, Raptor.

 

[JrDarknes]

Tacoma cause Toyota

Ram cause Dodge

.

 

[Xavier2342]

Raptor vs. Ram SRT10

I'll take the Raptor over the Ram since the Raptor is more practical.

 

[xXKingJoshXx]

Taco v. Frontier: I'll have the Taco. I just now came up with that name, so if I had one, I'd make a custom license plate saying "TACO".

Raptor v. Ram: Raptor, easily.

 

[Xavier2342]

1996 Toyota Supra

or

1999 Mazda RX7

 

[xXKingJoshXx]

Supra. Never liked rotary engines (except for the 787b)

 

[Bodyguard]

RX7, 'cause I've always loved a good rotary. Also, the Supra is overrated, while the RX7 is less so. Woop woop for Mazda!

 

[AudiMan2011]

Neither. They both don't come anywhere near close to an equivalent Porsche 911.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Ram and Supra.