WSC V - Yera Wins Final PT Race, Lout Steals GT Class At Spa!

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The difference is only 8 bhp so should be OK

463pp (315hp)
467pp (323hp)

Uhm, I was doing 2:06's even without the boost (300hp), so 463PP should be plenty. I'll try it tonight and report the outcome.
 
Uhm, I was doing 2:06's even without the boost (300hp), so 463PP should be plenty. I'll try it tonight and report the outcome.

Well you can go back to 457PP then we're all equal :sly:

Personally I think Furi should have a system like BTCC but instead of added ballast you get a reduction in PP instead if you do well and an increase if you do badly.

EG
1st -10PP
2nd -5PP
3rd -0PP
4th +5PP
5th +10PP
Over 6th +10PP
 
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Uhm, I was doing 2:06's even without the boost (300hp), so 463PP should be plenty. I'll try it tonight and report the outcome.

Yeah. Corvette could do 2:06s easily, could maybe even crack 2:05s on a flyer at 457pp.
 
Well you can go back to 457PP then we're all equal :sly:

Personally I think Furi should have a system like BTCC but instead of added ballast you get a reduction in PP instead if you do well and an increase if you do badly.

EG
1st -10PP
2nd -5PP
3rd -0PP
4th +5PP
5th +10PP
Over 6th +10PP

I like that idea. Makes everyone even, not just all the cars even for one person.
 
Well you can go back to 457PP then we're all equal :sly:

Personally I think Furi should have a system like BTCC but instead of added ballast you get a reduction in PP instead if you do well and an increase if you do badly.

EG
1st -10PP
2nd -5PP
3rd -0PP
4th +5PP
5th +10PP
Over 6th +10PP

In theory, something like this is a good thing. It works best though, if everyone is in the same or very balanced cars to begin with. If you have cars with different strengths on top of this, then it can get frustrating pretty quickly. Imagine that the first track is a top-speed track and the fastest car down the straight gets an easy win. Next track it gets -10PP, but the track is the polar opposite where the cars' handling, which coincidentally is its weak point, is even enhanced by the PP-penalty. You then get a sort of yo-yo effect where you either win or finish in last place.

I don't have the experience of WSC IV with these cars, so quite a bit of this is just based on assumptions, but it seems like the Corvette is good on the twistier tracks and will be a little underpowered on the faster tracks. But that's fine in my opinion - you've got to take the good with the bad and changing the balance of performance for every race should be the last resort used only if one car is found to be massively over- or underpowered. And all the discussion so far is just based on single lap times. We haven't even touched behaviour over the whole stint yet...

Anyway, I'll let you know what my times are with the 3 Corvette-specs after testing tonight. I promise I won't be sandbagging. :sly:
 
Can I have some GT cars sent to me for some testing (standard cars)? Mine all have engine and weight stage 3 on.
 
Daytona testing with the Vette, fully run in:

PP / hp / laptime

457 / 298 / 2:06.1 👍
463 / 314 / 2:05.3 :)
467 / 325 / 2:04.5 :D
 
Daytona testing with the Vette, fully run in:

PP / hp / laptime

457 / 298 / 2:06.1 👍
463 / 314 / 2:05.3 :)
467 / 325 / 2:04.5 :D

Seriously? :scared: :grumpy: WTFH

*Walks away mumbling something about kicking a cat*
 
Daytona testing with the Vette, fully run in:

PP / hp / laptime

457 / 298 / 2:06.1 👍
463 / 314 / 2:05.3 :)
467 / 325 / 2:04.5 :D

That's what I found last season, 2:06.6 on my 3rd or 4th lap or something. If anything needs a boost it's the GT350r.
 
Snow your not human xDD

Should have tested the Vette myself *d´oh* :D
Just leave them Cars the way they are. Stratos at Eiger is horrible but Daytona is okish, if you get the Bus-stopchicanes always right and the first turn always right.
That where my findings. Stratos kills you if your one moment unfocused.

But 05.0 is heavy => respecing the Stratos is ok.
Vette was ok too like the Camaro.
Both are stable and are good on the out-acceleration, where other cars suffer.

Re-spec the cars after a fast and a twisty track, that is my opinion.

I did a 2:06.4xx as fastest time without draft in the z28 (but it isn´t fully ran in 313bhp after leaving lobby) and 06.6´s as "normal" times.
With draft under 06 is possible I think.
 
snow your not human xdd

+1

should have tested the vette myself *d´oh*
just leave them cars the way they are. Stratos at eiger is horrible but daytona is okish, if you get the bus-stopchicanes always right and the first turn always right.
That where my findings. Stratos kills you if your one moment unfocused.

But 05.0 is heavy => respecing the stratos is ok.
Vette was ok too like the camaro.
Both are stable and are good on the out-acceleration, where other cars suffer.

Re-spec the cars after a fast and a twisty track, that is my opinion.

I did a 2:06.4xx as fastest time without draft in the z28 (but it isn´t fully ran in 313bhp after leaving lobby) and 06.6´s as "normal" times.
With draft under 06 is possible i think.

Point taken but your missing something. The Vette has neither good acceleration or top end speed at 457PP.
I was trying to even the odds but Snowcrash the alien comes along and Pi$$e$ on my bonfire.
 
Point taken but your missing something. The Vette has neither good acceleration or top end speed at 457PP.
I was trying to even the odds but Snowcrash the alien comes along and Pi$$e$ on my bonfire.

Uh-unh. No alien here by a long shot. But you're right, the Vette is not the fastest on acceleration and top speed at all. It's got good braking and turning capabilities though that let you attack more than most other cars.

Here's a tip (if you don't do it already): change gears at 5.000 rpm or only slightly over. You lose a lot of time when you rev to the red line (which is somewhere around 5.500 or so). That also means you have to set the gears long enough so you rev in that area on max speed. You can also short shift on some occasions to be earlier on the throttle in Daytona. It's basically 4 180° turns, so you need that speed coming out of them. And that means you have to carry more speed through them (because you can't rely on brute power with the Vette), so brake early enough and be smooth through the corner. There's also a lot of lap time in the chicane. Brake and then coast through each entry & exit without much turning of the wheel. And that concludes my being a smarta.. ;)
 
Uh-unh. No alien here by a long shot. But you're right, the Vette is not the fastest on acceleration and top speed at all. It's got good braking and turning capabilities though that let you attack more than most other cars.

Here's a tip (if you don't do it already): change gears at 5.000 rpm or only slightly over. You lose a lot of time when you rev to the red line (which is somewhere around 5.500 or so). That also means you have to set the gears long enough so you rev in that area on max speed. You can also short shift on some occasions to be earlier on the throttle in Daytona. It's basically 4 180° turns, so you need that speed coming out of them. And that means you have to carry more speed through them (because you can't rely on brute power with the Vette), so brake early enough and be smooth through the corner. There's also a lot of lap time in the chicane. Brake and then coast through each entry & exit without much turning of the wheel. And that concludes my being a smarta.. ;)

I took the chicane in fourth gear in my E-Type. The only corner I took in second was the International Horseshoe. All other corners were taken in third, fourth, or fifth. Going a gear higher than normal really does help cut down on wheelspin when re-applying the power.
 
I took the chicane in fourth gear in my E-Type. The only corner I took in second was the International Horseshoe. All other corners were taken in third, fourth, or fifth. Going a gear higher than normal really does help cut down on wheelspin when re-applying the power.

That depends a lot on how you set the gears. Since we're not using standing starts, I'm using very long gears, and I even go down into 1st once.
 
There's also a lot of lap time in the chicane. Brake and then coast through each entry & exit without much turning of the wheel. And that concludes my being a smarta.. ;)

Daytona laps are made or broken on the bus-stop, you can lose half a second or more very easily if you don't get it done right. The key is to get the second part of it right. Being a bit slow through the first part will only lose you a tenth or two, whereas being too slow out of the second bit will cost you time all the way down the banking and straight.

Contrasting styles though, as you say you coast through the entry, whereas on the second part I flick the brake with my left foot (and lift) to shift the weight forward and tuck the nose in towards the kerb, at the same time steering hard to the right, then immediately get hard on the power to settle the car and power out.

Steering lightly throughout the whole corner v.s. steering hard at first and straighter on exit.
 
For the bus stop I get all the braking and gear changes done on the straight and roll into the the first part with minimal accelleration. As others have said the second part is key. Can really ruin a lap if done wrong!
 
Uh-unh. No alien here by a long shot. But you're right, the Vette is not the fastest on acceleration and top speed at all. It's got good braking and turning capabilities though that let you attack more than most other cars.

Here's a tip (if you don't do it already): change gears at 5.000 rpm or only slightly over. You lose a lot of time when you rev to the red line (which is somewhere around 5.500 or so). That also means you have to set the gears long enough so you rev in that area on max speed. You can also short shift on some occasions to be earlier on the throttle in Daytona. It's basically 4 180° turns, so you need that speed coming out of them. And that means you have to carry more speed through them (because you can't rely on brute power with the Vette), so brake early enough and be smooth through the corner. There's also a lot of lap time in the chicane. Brake and then coast through each entry & exit without much turning of the wheel. And that concludes my being a smarta.. ;)

Will sort the gears accordingly, although I wasn't that far off. Cheers Snow:tup:

Still I am wondering what Furi Is going to do with all this info?

Hopefully no offence about my post.
 
Daytona laps are made or broken on the bus-stop, you can lose half a second or more very easily if you don't get it done right. The key is to get the second part of it right. Being a bit slow through the first part will only lose you a tenth or two, whereas being too slow out of the second bit will cost you time all the way down the banking and straight.

Contrasting styles though, as you say you coast through the entry, whereas on the second part I flick the brake with my left foot (and lift) to shift the weight forward and tuck the nose in towards the kerb, at the same time steering hard to the right, then immediately get hard on the power to settle the car and power out.

Steering lightly throughout the whole corner v.s. steering hard at first and straighter on exit.

Interesting indeed. Second part of the bus-stop for me is basically tapping the brake to just get the speed down enough and create enough rotation to hit the curb, then as early as possible on the power once the car is pointed enough right to make the second curb. With this car there is usually enough space to just run however wide it needs towards the wall.
 
I don't understand giving the Corvette a boost unless all the car become significantly faster. At 457 pp, last year I was able to do a 2'06.4 before the race. If someone is a fast driver or actually know what they are doing when tuning a transmission, 2'05s would easily be possible. Unless the other cars are much much quicker than before, the Corvette will be way too fast at 463 or 467 pp. I'll have to drive them to confirm, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
 
After much discussion it has been decided that the Corvette will be returned to 457pp with IMMEDIATE EFFECT.
 
I'm testing this afternoon, I don't mind if anyone wants to drop by.
 
Add me (sagarismic) and I'll send the Cobra, Stratos for sure, maybe the Mustang (I'm not sure if I even have one low mileage car).

👍

Mileage doesn't matter. I still have some of the special tickets that remove all miles.
 
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