WTF is it with everyone rushing to 40

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Spite. The game wants full completion by a horrible means, I intend to do it to rub it in its face.
 
Pretty much to unlock damage at full. Should have been where you can unlock level 40, then go back to 0, after that the game gets more challenging, and events get randomized and races get longer and harder.

level 40, you reach GT Champion 1, do it again, you reach 2.

Basically, you get the same thing CoD gets with it's prestige ranking.
 
Meh, im 29 aspec and 33 bspec. I doubt I will ever hit 40 in aspec of even 35 unless the seasonal events keep coming. Theres too few races and no variety in them. Theres tons of potential for actual rally events, karting, Race seasons and so on. The level system is ok, I suppose, but I would combine them and just have a race level, not an asepc and bspec level.

I do think the grind from 30-40 is stupid. You should be able to reach the cap with little to no repeating. And with all cars and types of racing, theres plenty of room for no repitition at all.
 
I'm at A-spec lvl 18 and B-spec lvl 8.

I'm enjoying the game thoroughly without ever feeling the need to get to lvl 40 as quickly as possible. However, I can understand some people needing to complete a 'project' before taking on others. I was that way too until I realized that approach was taking away the fun factor of it. So, now I have three games on the go simultaneously and switch back and forth between them whenever I feel like it.

It keeps all three games more fun and fresh for longer, in my opinion.
 
If you are rushing to 40 then do NOT complain about grinding.


I'll complain about what I please, thank you. Grinding sucks whether it's over a short span or a long one. It doesn't make sense that you have to run the first 24h enduro in B-spec a ton of times just to get to the next race. Is that supposed to be fun or interesting? A-spec isn't as bad since the Seasonal events have been added, but quite frankly, having a 24h enduro for a-spec with no save points or use of b-spec drivers is impractical and a poor idea. Still haven't decided if I'm going to waste 48 hours just doing two races. Requiring players to redo races that are already long and boring is not good for gameplay. Requiring players to move at the developers' pace of adding events is also poor implementation. Increased game time by forcing replay of races in order to advance is cheap and lazy and poor game design.
 
I'm at A-spec lvl 18 and B-spec lvl 8.

I'm enjoying the game thoroughly without ever feeling the need to get to lvl 40 as quickly as possible. However, I can understand some people needing to complete a 'project' before taking on others. I was that way too until I realized that approach was taking away the fun factor of it. So, now I have three games on the go simultaneously and switch back and forth between them whenever I feel like it.

It keeps all three games more fun and fresh for longer, in my opinion.

To each his own I guess, but that's how I see it: I want level 40 and EVERY trophy because I want the game COMPLETE and only THEN the playing and enjoying will start for me because there are 1031 cars to test on dozens of tracks, other things to explore and many other random things to do, like creating your own challenges in the game just for you, this is how I play a Gran Turismo game and this is the reason I have to complete everything first.

I'll complain about what I please, thank you. ...
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Some people are rushing to 40 because that is the nature of a leveling up system. You being a certain level is tied into the game. People see it as a challenge to get there quick. Maybe they hate the fact that all of these endurance events are locked until you get to a certain level to just play them. Why would someone be surprised by this?

The whole level system in GT is entirely unnecessary and pointless. It's pointless to me because it takes so much XP to barely move the bar that I just ignore it now. Why put a system in that takes soooo long to notice any affect that people will just give up and not care about it? It's dumb! :lol: 👎
 
I'm only at level 23 and have only done one of the Professional races. I've done all the Begginer and Amateur races and about 1/3 of the Special Events. I don't think there is necessary a lack of content overall in this game, but there does seem to be a great lack of content geared to players above level 30.

To me the whole levelling sytem in GT5 is STUPID. The past system of needing a new license for each level worked very well. There was no need to repeat races unless you wanted to. If people like a race they can repeat, but why force them to. Honestly I can't think of anything gained from the levelling system and I can certainly see why many people are frustrated by it.
 
I too am baffled by the number of people pissed off that they its hard to get to level 40, its good that the game is going to take longer than the 2 MONTHS we've had it to complete.

However, PD should have put more events in the lower levels to save you repeating some races dozens and dozens of times. Maybe try having dozens of races in each class (I mean, the festival italia has 1 event, WTF)
 
I'm just about up to level 36 in B-Spec and am working on getting to LVL 40 because I want to buy several different colored X2010s. I have the $20 Mil standing by too.

After I reach it I'll go back and work on A-Spec - but probably will stop before the long endurance races. Then I'll gold all of the licenses, and after that, just enjoy racing here and there while waiting for new DLC / cars / tracks, and then GT6.
 
Haha I love how people are still despirately defending this game no matter what and come always with the same argument "don't like it-sell it" , just poor and laughable.


Laughable is playing/keeping a game which obviously you don't enjoy.
 
I guess it depends on opponents or some other factors I don't know. I've seen online races with 12-16 people that ran for a half hour or more (laps depends on the track obv) that paid much more.
A 40 minute race at Nurburging GP/F, I was in a 600 hp Z06 RM. What kind of races did you play and how much did they pay (I just want to get an idea of what you can get out of online races).

I am at level 28 and have yet to NEED to repeat anything. I have repeated a few races I wanted to, but never needed to. If you're playing a combination of online and offline and you are interested in just playing the game, not the reward at the end, and are willing to wait and not be able to just access the last race in a week, thats how they wanted it to be played. I for one am enjoying it this way, and it appears many others are as well. People that like things are usually less vocal than people who don't. I'm also OK with the fact I can't run the 24 hrs of Nurburgring just yet, but some day maybe in 6 months or so of playing, I will.
Even with the seasonal events, it was a nuisance to get to level 30. When I unlocked endurance races, it would take multiple runs of the enduros just to level up to do the next one. What was the point? Sure I would eventually get there as long as I did something that gave me XP, but why am I waiting? There is no reason.

Yes, that is the way the game is. But, that's a problem to some people. Why should someone wait 6 months to do Nring 24hr? There is no purpose behind such a delay. Sure I would eventually get anywhere as long as I did something that gave me XP, but why am I waiting? There is no reason.


I am not saying its perfect or its right, but thats just the way it is, not a mistake. I don't think you're going to get that though as I recall you're the same guy who I have had discussions here in the past about the fact you also expect them to give you every single car in the game from the beginning as well.


It's not hard to get at all. However, I'll continue to speak against the leveling system, or at least not having any alternatives. It's a terrible way to make a game, and it's extremely surprising that a company as experienced as PD would let such a bad feature into their games.

It doesn't actually add any longevity. It just makes it take longer to do something. Was PD afraid that everyone would throw the game away after reaching a meaningless level cap? Then why didn't they make the game better to avoid that situation? They could have just copied and pasted the events from GT3 and 4. If the point was longevity, I think the leveing system failed. Not only that, it should have been obvious that it would have failed. It adds no content. Only time.

And yes, I think that unlocks are a terrible idea.


Thats how they designed the game, you are more than fee and welcome to have an opinion on it and not like it, but your opinion doesn't mean their design is wrong.

Of course. However, just because you are fine with it, that doesn't make the decision right either. You don't seem to mind the leveling system, but it doesn't seem that you think it's an outstanding feature (correct me if I'm wrong). Other people however, hate it. There wasn't such a strong dislike of the old system. This is a possible objective measure of quality, the number of satisfied players. It is not in any way a perfect measure, but I feel it's stronger than just saying "the game is the way it is, deal with it."
 
Rushing to 40 and complaining about grinding is the same as shooting yourself in the foot and complaining it hurts. :crazy:
 
Rushing to 40 and complaining about grinding is the same as shooting yourself in the foot and complaining it hurts. :crazy:

How so? Maybe if PD was holding the gun, I'd agree with the analogy. If they weren't being unreasonable, you'd be able to go anywhere with no pain.

Not everyone wants to do every event. Some people don't even want to be bothered with GT Life. Some people can't win every event. What is wrong with doing LeMans 24 hr as your first race? Or driving the X1? There's no reason to cut those off from people.
 
Rushing to 40 and complaining about grinding is the same as shooting yourself in the foot and complaining it hurts. :crazy:

It is compulsory to grind though on B-Spec to get to Level 40 and a ridiculous amount too. You will be grinding for ages to get to Level 40. They should of designed the experience points around the amount of events, not the amount of experience points they would have liked from more events to achieve the higher levels. I think I have to do over 10 24hr endurance races to get to level 40 from level 35. The only reason why I'm rushing is because I have to in order to get competitive for the B-Spec Signature Edition competition.


I saw this today, amazing how quickly you can Platinum this game even with the excessive grinding from Level 35 to 40.

http://yourgamercards.net/profile/Drift-Yellow-FD
 
With online racing being included in GT5, I don't really understand the 'the game is too short and artificially extended w/ grinding!!!!' argument.

We. Have. Online. Racing.

Infinite possibilities.
 
With online racing being included in GT5, I don't really understand the 'the game is too short and artificially extended w/ grinding!!!!' argument.

We. Have. Online. Racing.

Infinite possibilities.

Online doesn't factor into the Platinum throphy for completionists.

It doesn't help you progress to unlock more cars/money unless you're below level 5.

And some people just prefer offline.
 
I've finally seen the game for what it should be - a game made by a car nut, for car nuts. So I've been buying cars that I want because I like them, things like the 22B and Lotus Carlton. But I then find that they're mostly useless online and that any a-spec races in which they're competitive reward such tiny amounts of XP.

This has resulted in my progression stalling, I'm now mostly racing slower cars in races rewarding less than 1000 XP. The racing is fun but the whole concept of XP at this point is useless to me when it'll take many thousands of races like this just to progress a few more levels.

What's frustrating is that if you want to level up you're stuck having to race a very small subset of cars that are fast enough to compete in the expert and extreme series which kind of defeats the objects of the game have such a fantastic selection of cars.
 
Rushing to 40 and complaining about grinding is the same as shooting yourself in the foot and complaining it hurts. :crazy:


You're going to have to grind in parts of the game whether you rush or not.
 
I'm only intrested in getting to Level 40 in B-Spec just to get it done and out of the Way .

Once thats done then i'll race whatever races take my fancy in whatever cars I wan't to use .

Online is fun with the right people and there's the Seasonal Events .

If I never hit Level 40 in A-Spec I won't be bothered at all .

As for Trophies 👎
 
Laughable is playing/keeping a game which obviously you don't enjoy.

I explained how I enjoy this game, and that includes FIRST completing it, only 6 posts below the post you quoted, so big fail on your part, sorry champ.

I want level 40 and EVERY trophy because I want the game COMPLETE and only THEN the playing and enjoying will start for me because there are 1031 cars to test on dozens of tracks, other things to explore and many other random things to do, like creating your own challenges in the game just for you, this is how I play a Gran Turismo game and this is the reason I have to complete everything first.
 
I just want to unlock everything so I can go back and do the races I want without worrying about a pointless shoe-horned in leveling system. Licensing is more realistic and less boring it blows my mind why they thought it was necessary to change it at the last minute.
 
I got the game 2 weeks ago and i must say i have no idea what all this grinding talk is about. When i got into the 20's i was scared that i would have to grind forever, but no, i had to grind the indy 500 twice to get to level 30 and that was it! The rest of my exp came from seasonal events and just doing A-spec events.

It only took me a week to get to level 35 but i haven't played A-spec since. I'm now doing B-spec and playing lots of online because i bought this game to have fun.
 
Well, 35-40 is where it really starts to get ridiculous, untill 36 it is actually POSSIBLE to get there without grinding, IF you golded everything and not everybody can do that.
 
I've never even considered trying to reach Level 40. I haven't touched B-spec and never will and Im at level 21 A-spec. The only reason I do the A-spec races is to get money to buy better cars to use in Arcade or online so the level makes no difference to me.

The only reason I play GT is for the cars and the driving experience. It seems the more PD try to turn it into a "game" the more diluted the experience gets.

Luckily, it's still buried in there. You just have to do a bit of grinding to find it :)
 
So, how does my game affect yours?
 
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