Young children should not be smacked as a means of punishment.

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Originally posted by Cobraboy
Physical abuse only effectively works on animals. But even then you shouldn't do it.
I agree. My parents, sadly, don't. I'm 19 and still get whacked - hard - if I say or do the wrong thing. :(
 
Your parents are Australian, How many Australians would give two rats arses as to what some stupid poncie 'Government Official' says?

If it ever gets to government..
 
Originally posted by Cobraboy
Your parents are Australian, How many Australians would give two rats arses as to what some stupid poncie 'Government Official' says?

If it ever gets to government..
Yup, how true.

I doubt this thing will ever get to the Government, as too many Government Officials see "spanking" as an effective means of punishment.
 
IMHO children should not be hit as means of punishment. Neither should animals for that matter..

I do, however, remember getting hit, a couple of times a long long time ago. I think it might be 4 times all in all, and NEVER ever was the spanking out of line ! I sure as h3ll did some pretty stupid stuff, that earned me a smack.

But the answer is still NO.. No physical abuse !

/F
 
Originally posted by HRT_Maloo
At least a kid knows the diffenence between right and wrong, unlike a cat or dog where physical abuse is wrong
Good point.. The kid knows it is not allowed to smack his little sister, whereas the cat will just follow it's instincts...
 
Steffen - as to the out of line bit, I know when I'm out of line, but I get whacked for disagreeing, not agreeing with someone else's point. Is that taking the whack bit too far?
 
As I said before . Every whack to a kid is a whack too much, and no one should be whacked for disagreeing (unless it is in a bar and it turns into a barbrawl - Then it's ok I think :trouble: )
After all, Australia is supposed to be a country where one have the freedom to think for itself and have their own opinion...

But I think, Jonathan, that your parents are way out of line here.. Especially your age taken into consideration !
 
If my parents would hit me, I'd hit them back twice as hard.

I got hit by a nanny once, I was 5 or 6 years old at the time. My parents flipped.
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer

......but I never said anything about physical labor :D
Yeah. Making license plates in prison was a great idea because it gets the prisoners doing something rather than sitting around. Other extremely productive things could also be handled by prisons, and at well under minimum wage by each state. Unfortunately, states haven't seen this advantage for very much yet.
 
Originally posted by sn00pie

I got hit by a nanny once, I was 5 or 6 years old at the time. My parents flipped.

I bet Nicole wouldn't hit a fly.

Unless it got in her ear.

Then, *WHACK*.
 
Originally posted by sn00pie
I got hit by a nanny once, I was 5 or 6 years old at the time. My parents flipped.
*points and laughs* Smart nanny.


I think that it's okay for a parent to smack their child under the correct circumstances... I was hit a couple times during my 4-5 year old years, and I sure as hell deserved it. As long as it's truly deserved, and the kid realizes that it is in fact a punishment, then I don't see a problem with it (I do have problems with parents who use it as the primary means of punishment... at that point, the kid practically becomes immune to it).
 
"Smacking" or spanking can be effective if used in a loving and controlled environment. It can be much more effective than say...."Time Out". I practiced a good degree of both, now he's too big to lay the smack down on him, but then again, I don't have a behavior problem with him either.

Ever see kids in shopping carts in a store just raising hell and the parent(s) feel embarassed to do anything? I found that you have to be consistant in your disapline regardless of where you are. Consistancy is the key to disapline IMO and if I have another child I will definately use spanking and time-outs for disciplinary actions.
 
Sometimes a spanking is what it takes. Not a beating but a spanking. I did it a few times when it was necessary to my son when he was old enough to figure out I was punishing him. Same as Pako I have no behavior problems with my son. Now all I usually have to do is give him that look my Dad use to give me when he was pissed.
 
With little kids it is very hard to sit down and rationally discuss the pros and cons of their behavior. Reason is boring to a toddler, preschooler, etc. They like, and need things that grab their attention. A swfit smak in the butt can really do that without actually hurting them. Hitting in the face is no good. It hurts.

I believe the line between discipline and abuse is in the anger. A dad who grabs his five year old by the arm and smacks his rear while taking him back accross the street he just crossed against the dad's safety rules, while reminding him he is not to do that again, is acceptable to me. But a dad who does all that and them spanks him and slaps his face and tells him to "stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about" just because he's pissed off about being disobeyed or inconvenienced is just an abusive asshole.

It is also worth noting that many kids are so abused an screwed up by their parents without ever having a hand laid on them.

Another thing that is a big mistake to me is being incapable of doing anything that may cause your child the slightest discomfort or disappointment. Some parents are the complete opposite end of the spectrum and that can do even more damage than a poorly judged smack.

It would be so nice if you could just say you should never touch your kid. But parenting is a hard and takes subtle observational skills and jugement, to do it well anyway.
 
Originally posted by SandStorm
I agree. My parents, sadly, don't. I'm 19 and still get whacked - hard - if I say or do the wrong thing. :(

You're 19 and still get smacked?

Strange.

You know you can stand up for yourself, right?
Or just move out.
 
The last time my dad laid a hand on me was when I was eighteen. It wasn't for discipline but out of anger/desire to control. He's pretty old-school. I fought back. When you hit your dad as a legal adult, and realize what you are doing, a lot of innocence is lost. It's a very sad feeling. Nothing is the same after that. But it can be just what was needed. In my case it was. We've been fine ever since, and he didn't kick me out of the house. He knew he was wrong.
 
:lol: The last time I got smacked was when my Mom was chasing my brother and I around the house with the famous wooden spoon. She finally got ahold of us and broke the spoon on our butts. We wern't quite sure how to handle that situation, a moment of silence passed, then we all started to laugh uncontrollably. That was the last time I got smacked. When the smacker brakes, it's time to give it up. ;)
 
I've been hit once in my life, by my mother.

She slept me in the face with the palm of her hand, and apologized immediately.
But i deserved the slap, was acting like a real pain that day.

You know....puberty.
 
Children should be beaten to within an inch of their life if they even think about stepping out of line. As should communists. Or not.

My dad has kicked me in the ass a couple times. Heh.

My mom couldn't hit me if she tried without breaking her hand.

Hitting your kid once in a while is okay I guess. I don't think a child should be beaten with a whip or anything, but a slap to the back or the head is effective.
 
i used to get hit alot when i was younger for swearing and lashing out against my parents and others. now if i do somthing incredibly stupid i will get hit. i dont get 'hit' hit, its just a slap to the back of the head.

i thought that it worked pretty good considering i appear to behave myself better than any other teenager i know.
 
I've actually never sworn in front of my parents. I don't know how they'd react, they're pretty, uh, narrowminded and old-fashioned.
 
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