Your opinion on Racing Softs?

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I put them on my cars because i can afford them.
But i like t have track days i mainly used racing soft but have now moved to sports soft.
 
I use comfort softs for online play and drifting and racing softs for track racing
 
I use stock tires throughout.

People who use RS tires for racing only, and CH tires for drifting only, aren't really giving themselves a challenge. They just go to two extremes to drive and drift as well as they can.
 
Does it really matter? If the room allows it then so be it. Unrealistic? Maybe, but if i wanted to, I could put racing softs on my daily driver. If you're in the room to cruise, then cruise, if you want to see how fast you can go with every possible advantage, then put on the rs tires and go. It's a game, it has to please one and all, hence the option to put whatever tire you want on whatever car. If you don't allow the rs tires on non race cars, then those who don't use them get there way, if you do, then everyone has the choice to play the game the way they want to. Not how others think it should be.
 
wheelmonstor
Does it really matter? If the room allows it then so be it. Unrealistic? Maybe, but if i wanted to, I could put racing softs on my daily driver. If you're in the room to cruise, then cruise, if you want to see how fast you can go with every possible advantage, then put on the rs tires and go. It's a game, it has to please one and all, hence the option to put whatever tire you want on whatever car. If you don't allow the rs tires on non race cars, then those who don't use them get there way, if you do, then everyone has the choice to play the game the way they want to. Not how others think it should be.
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Can't, slicks aren't road legal (assuming you're talking about real life). But point taken.

I'm still questioning why PD decided to put a unrealistically grippy tire compound into the game, though.
 
For 'sim' racing and for just driving about, Racing Softs have too much grip (except for qualifying maybe). But online I feel it can create great close racing. The extra grip stops the usual first corner pile ups and narrows the advantage wheel users have over ds3 users. It also seems to let people who are good at racing but aren't that quick (think the opposite of Sebastien Vettel) join in with the quicker drivers.
 
1241Penguin
Can't, slicks aren't road legal (assuming you're talking about real life). But point taken.

I'm still questioning why PD decided to put a unrealistically grippy tire compound into the game, though.
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Not street legal, you're correct, even so I could if I wanted to, but speaking realistically, I can take my car to road atlanta, bolt on slicks, and run the track. Either way, there are hundreds of rooms to run however you like(not you specifically). And in the event you can't find one to your liking, you can create one.
 
NFSCARBON1
For 'sim' racing and for just driving about, Racing Softs have too much grip (except for qualifying maybe). But online I feel it can create great close racing. The extra grip stops the usual first corner pile ups and narrows the advantage wheel users have over ds3 users. It also seems to let people who are good at racing but aren't that quick (think the opposite of Sebastien Vettel) join in with the quicker drivers.
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Given what you've said, I suppose that Racing Soft tires helps differentiate the hardcore sim racers and the players who just want to have fun with the game.
wheelmonstor
Not street legal, you're correct, even so I could if I wanted to, but speaking realistically, I can take my car to road atlanta, bolt on slicks, and run the track. Either way, there are hundreds of rooms to run however you like(not you specifically). And in the event you can't find one to your liking, you can create one.
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Yup. 👍
 
analog
Why? There are different levels of skill involved here, let alone the element of free choice.
You could even argue that a lot of racing cars are much easier to drive on sports hard tyres (or less) than some highly tuned roadcars on for example racing hard or medium.
I also get annoyed by seeing endless rooms with low(ish) pp and no tyre restrictions but more online options to select rooms (not just SRF off) would be a far better solution.
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most people will still not choose tire restrictions, therefore online play will still be ruined.

On a second thought, the game would be much better if you weren't able to buy and use different tires (besides snow and dirt ofc).

wheelmonstor
Does it really matter? If the room allows it then so be it. Unrealistic? Maybe, but if i wanted to, I could put racing softs on my daily driver. If you're in the room to cruise, then cruise, if you want to see how fast you can go with every possible advantage, then put on the rs tires and go. It's a game, it has to please one and all, hence the option to put whatever tire you want on whatever car. If you don't allow the rs tires on non race cars, then those who don't use them get there way, if you do, then everyone has the choice to play the game the way they want to. Not how others think it should be.
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First of all there's no racing tire that is nowhere near close the unreal amount of grip they provide on GT5. Secondly, the best road legal tire you can get is comparable to sports soft at most.
 
jaycee_xr3
I used to run everything on racing softs, but with time and experience that become to be boring. Actually I only use racing softs on racing cars... and I don't drive racing cars very often, my main source of fun are 400-600 ppr cars in sport tires.
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Same for me.
I used to use Sports Soft, but for one race I chose Racing tires and stuck with them. Recently I've been reverting/adapting my tunes to fit Sports tires again; it makes me feel better inside, sad huh?
And I know that the grip is actually real and my tune is having an effect, rather than it being the tires alone.
 
Pirelli has a "super soft" compound slick tyre which is sometimes used in Formula 1 races (not just qualifying), depending on the circuit. So why are people saying the RS tyres are "unrealistic" :confused:
 
JBanton
Pirelli has a "super soft" compound slick tyre which is sometimes used in Formula 1 races (not just qualifying), depending on the circuit. So why are people saying the RS tyres are "unrealistic" :confused:
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Because people like to think they know about everthing ever made in the history of the world.
 
In a random online room, I use max grip tire available. Aside from that, I try to keep away from them. PD needs to bring PP back into effect for tires, so when someone runs Racing Hards or whatever else tire, they have a fighting chance, would make the racing more interesting.
 
JBanton
Pirelli has a "super soft" compound slick tyre which is sometimes used in Formula 1 races (not just qualifying), depending on the circuit. So why are people saying the RS tyres are "unrealistic" :confused:
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Not really the tires but the fact people are using them on Fiat 500s.
Even so, I'd say Racing Hards are actually realistic for Formula 1; you can't simply slap on tires and expect immaculate grip without tuning anything else.
 
I've used up to Racing Mediums, but Softs are just too grippy for anything short of the X1.

Traviizter
Even so, I'd say Racing Hards are actually realistic for Formula 1; you can't simply slap on tires and expect immaculate grip without tuning anything else.
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Check this out: (Done on Comfort Soft tires)

 
avens
most people will still not choose tire restrictions, therefore online play will still be ruined.

On a second thought, the game would be much better if you weren't able to buy and use different tires (besides snow and dirt ofc).



First of all there's no racing tire that is nowhere near close the unreal amount of grip they provide on GT5. Secondly, the best road legal tire you can get is comparable to sports soft at most.
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Understood. However, this is a game. and even though it has unrealistic grip levels like you say, you have many tire choices. As long as everyone you're racing has the same equipment, well, then it really comes down to yor skill as a driver doesn't.
 
R1600Turbo
Check this out: (Done on Comfort Soft tires)
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No offence but apart from a meagre comparison video, what are you showing me?
If he did this on Comfort Softs, I'd assume you're saying that tuning is more important.
My point is that people who slap RS tires on everything don't fine tune everything else, such as Suspension or an LSD.
 
It isn't MANDATORY to put racing softs on your car.
Just because you can put racing softs on any car doesn't you have to.
And remember that PD allows you to limit tires and see tires that others are using in an online lobby.
 
99% of my cars have race medium tires... I only use RS on the LMP/Group C race cars, and some other exceptions... 👍

BTW, I hate low grip tires... that's why I use race tires... so far, the only car I own that hasn't got Racing Tires is a RM Golf ;)
 
Traviizter
No offence but apart from a meagre comparison video, what are you showing me?
If he did this on Comfort Softs, I'd assume you're saying that tuning is more important.
My point is that people who slap RS tires on everything don't fine tune everything else, such as Suspension or an LSD.
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Everyone was talking about F1 cars and what they should use. You mentioned Racing Hard, and I showed you that in reality, Comfort Soft tires suit the car more as the person who made the video (who I know personally) matched the pole time at the same track with the same car on those tires.

Just sayin'.
 
Rudenut
I'm pretty sure f1 tires don't fit on my m3
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Try harder.

I don't care what tires I'm on, so long as they're inflated. I can adapt to the compound, so what do I care what compound anyone else chooses?
 
Racing Softs add too much grip.

Take a stock, untuned no oil change Z06, 458 or GT-R around Laguna Seca. No Tuning, using Sport Soft tires (similar to an R-compound DOT Tire). You should be able to mimic Randy Pobst's times of 1:34.4, 1:36.4 and 1:36.2. Now add Racing Softs. Now look at your lap times. Racing Softs are not real.
 
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Bottoz
Racing Softs add too much grip.

Take a stock, untuned no oil change Z06, 458 or GT-R around Laguna Seca. No Tuning, using Sport Soft tires (similar to an R-compound DOT Tire). You should be able to mimic of Randy Pobst's times of 1:34.4, 1:36.4 and 1:36.2. Now add Racing Softs. Now look at your lap times. Racing Softs are not real.
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GT5 is also not real. Randy has billions of variables to contend with, such as death. Thankfully, the PS3 can't factor that many variables. Or death.
 
McClarenDesign
GT5 is also not real. Randy has billions of variables to contend with, such as death. Thankfully, the PS3 can't factor that many variables. Or death.
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True, that. But given that GT5 is marketed as a "simulator," there's no reason why PD would add an element into the game that is clearly unrealistic.

Just like the concept cars, actually.
 
1241Penguin
True, that. But given that GT5 is marketed as a "simulator," there's no reason why PD would add an element into the game that is clearly unrealistic.

Just like the concept cars, actually.
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So the damage is realistic? Or sound? Or standard cars?

Without knowing exactly how PD models their tires, or physics, how can you say it is unreal?

Regardless of who makes what, a simulator is a simulator, and thusly, can only simulate. Saying its not real, or doesnt feel real, is like getting mad at optical illusions.

Silly.

Also, what may feel real to you maybe unreal to others. PD has to quantify this for millions of people. Don't hate, adapt.
 

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