Gran Turismo 6 “80% Complete”, Gran Turismo 7 Coming to PS4 in “A Year or Two”
Japanese gaming magazine Famitsu has shared their latest interview with GT series creator Kazunori Yamauchi, and his comments have been translated by Polygon.
With less than three months until the Gran Turismo 6 release date, Famitsu asked Kazunori for an update on how the game is progressing:
“It’s really hard to give an accurate answer to that. The basic components are already complete, so overall I’d have to say about 80 percent. The physics engine, the steering controls; those parts of the user interface are things that we fine tune-right up to the very end. Things like the game modes; I can say that those are complete.”
The game’s driving physics have also been modified since GT Academy 2013 was released as the first public GT6 demo back in July, and the new physics will be available in the latest build of the game to be shown at next week’s Tokyo Game Show.
Kazunori also briefly discussed the new mobile apps which will integrate with Gran Turismo 6, hinting that they may allow players to send and receive messages with other players using their smartphones and tablets.
As for hardware, Kazunori had positive things to say about both the PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3, which will host GT6. He also used this opportunity to hint at when we could expect Gran Turismo 7 on the new console:
“The PlayStation 4’s large memory size is a unique trait,” he said, “but in terms of CPU performance, the PS3’s Cell chip, while difficult to handle, is really capable. They both have different advantages. Besides, I think the online community aspect, one of the most fun parts of GT, doesn’t have anything to do with the platform.
The PlayStation 4 game which we’ll likely call GT7 will be done in about a year or two, I think, and I think the community aspect’s going to be vital there as well.”
In summary, Kazunori stresses that there are two major areas of focus for Polyphony Digital with Gran Turismo 6, driving physics and interaction with the “real world”:
“We’re devoting ourselves to two forces in GT6. One is honing the internal mechanics of the game, the physics engine and user interface and so on. Another is pushing the title’s external energies, trying to help it break out of the shell of the video-game industry.”
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At least with the PS4 it’s more easier to code that the PS3 was. Granted the Cell processor has/had a lot of potential, from all reports it’s a pain to code for…
At least with PS4 being x86 architecture, coding a game should be easier (hence why I can understand the year or two quote from Kaz)
Ok so it’s not a PS4 launch title but when it does get released, it will sell like hotcakes.
I just want to see another Tourist Trophy game
80% complete after 3 years, and they will finish the last 20% in 2 months.
Get ready for the delay.
LOL, Rayzor. That’s what DLC is for ;) Not good news for offline playaz.
In regards to GT6, I wonder if they are just putting the finishing touches on what was mentioned. If so, they may be able to finish it by December, but I personally am not certain if that is possible, however if the game does go as what many deem as “unfinished”, I feel like it won’t be too bad at all. A few updates and it should be fixed.
As for GT7, all say is, wow! I have doubts it will release that quickly, but if it does, we may be looking at something like GT3 again, not that it is a bad thing but I feel like it may relate to it.
If completing GT6, to meet a December 6th release date, has to go down to the wire, Mid to late November would be best, as supply and demand could be affected if it’s completed to a better standard then GT5, but shipped to consumers short on Quantity.
GT7 completed in 1-2 years? Kaz should really keep these comments in house…
*Quantaties*
Forza is to the Xbox One like GTHD was going to be on PS3.
-Baked lighting.
-baked shadows.
-no day/night transition.
-no weather.
Trust me, I would rather wait a year or two for a beautiful game than go with Forza 5. Its essentially Forza 4 with higher polygons. I doubt people are going to move to Forza 5 to satisfy a “next gen” thirst for simulation when realistically speaking, GT6 on PS3 offers a more next gen feature set than Forza 5.
I love how you went on a mini rant about a topic that has nothing to do with the article.
GT7 in a year or two??? I can believe this (read: it better be). The GT series is a console pusher (queue Ice-T track). PD has to get a GT game on the PS4 as fast as possible. Along with the fact that Forza 5 will be the ONLY next-gen console sim racer, Sony could loose some sales.
Correct me if i’m wrong but i seem to remember Kaz saying months before GT5 released that “we are ready and can release anytime”
Look how that turned out!!!
When it started getting slated in reviews he changed his tune to “i need another 2 years to have it how i want it”
He actually said that in 2009.
As long as they’re coming… i’m enjoying the news ^_^ …because it’s so sad if there’s no next GT series :(
If GT7 comes out before the end of 2015 I will spend $ 1000 bucks on charity…… because it will never happen….
Start saving and have your wallet ready.
lol X86-64 development and scheduling tasks to the GPU for compute and gfx, you better have your wallet handy, devs are saying it takes between 3 weeks to 3 months to take a game to PS4. EVERY asset/vehicle in GT6 can be thrown on PS4 and optimised in no time. Like Naughty Dog and other 1st party devs, PD surely stores very high texture data and these will be what we see on GT7. Photomode-esque+ LOD models running in real time. We may get a GT7 thats leaps beyond that too.
What’s the point of buying gt6 if gt7 will be out in a year or two? Ill just wait for gft7 which will be better and it’s for ps4. This game stuff is just a waste of money.
Yeah tell that to other games that come out every year. I don’t see people talking about them, ESPECIALLY COD….
What’s the point in waiting for 1-2 years just to spare $60? But have fun missing out.
Good point I think I’ll cancel my preorder ASAP so that I will never know what it’s like driving the Pagani Huyrua, SRT Vipor, or any of the new cars that are going to be on the game. What was I thinking.
Oh yeah, I was thinking I wanted to have fun! You wait, we move on.
So, there’ll be about 5 people playing GT5 online AFTER GT6 comes out!
There’ll also be less updates and about zero new cars added!
But you have fun, OK?
Yes I am with you (SnakeOfBacon) GT2 is still the best
GT2 was good but, it couldn’t hold a candle to GT4.
GT4 kept you coming for more like an addict.
I bet the last 20% is the famous GT music ^_^
I hate how you can’t star posts or have some sort of upvote thing on this site for comments like this.
Here we go again!
I know what’s coming and what state the game will be in at launch, i’m a realist!
I’m sure it will still be good but the sounds are an industry joke now, i don’t really give 2 hoots about most of the stuff as long as i can hotlap in realistic handling and sounding cars on and offline.
That should be the bread and butter of the game!
So we can count.you out as a GT6 playa? Ok, we can get along withoutcha.
I haven’t experienced anything that comes close (audio) to what I have on VHS and DVR. Heck, even the internet soundtracks reproduce the sound effects enough to identify turbos or naturally aspirated engines, prototypes from production cars.
Yup, it’s a damn shame PD or anyone else, has reproduced the echos and Doppler effects we are exposed to everytime we tune in a car program on the TV or step outside of our homes. There was a time when we could identify what.was driven by us… but now… there’s just too damn many cars out there, on the road.
A blacked out, late model ‘Stang pulled up next to me at a red light yesterday. He didn’t have to stomp the go peddle to let me know who the BOSS was out there. He just cruised away as if enjoying ever upshift into slow motion brrrumble.
dude… you should write a book
The problem with sound effects (apart from the software side of things) is that:
1. you need good reproductive equipment (tee hee).
2. you need good ears… I SAID YOU NEED GOOD EARS…
Forgive me , I’m just having a chuckle here. Personally I think the sound effects are excellent – the Gillet Vertigo ‘start up’ is great although having said that I’ve never heard it for real so can’t compare it. Actually most of the cars I haven’t heard either…
esio trot
I’m pretty happy with the engine sounds aswell. But I miss the rest of the sound a car makes, tire sound, gearboxes, all that stuff. All we hear is wind, engine, turbo. Also wouldn’t it be awesome if the cars sounded like when you change to them in the garage menu. Mazda 787 :drool:
There are some pros and cons with this situation. I like the fact that we get the next edition to GT, that being GT6, on the PS3 system. However this is kind of ridiculous if you think about it. We’re going to buy GT6 then before you know it we’ll be buying the PS4 system and yet another addition to the game, GT7. This game is the gaming equivalent to Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm street. Every time you turn around there is a new one out. At least you didn’t have to buy a new VHS/DVD player every few years in order to watch them. I know technology grows leaps and bounds every day but I’m sure they sit on certain technologies and/or breakthroughs for a while so they can squeeze every last dime out of whatever the current hot item is at the time. Just sayin’. Between Xbox / Forza and the stupid expensive DLC’s that you have to buy in order to own every car in the game and the DLC’s that we’ve paid for with GT5 I think it’s time we start, at the very least, getting some FREE DLC’s. There are so many tracks that I kept hearing about that never made it to the game. Look, I would just like to feel like I’m actually getting my moneys worth. I think that’s fairly reasonable. Wouldn’t you say?
Just a case of bad timing really – the console lifecycle is more than a few years, seven or so I think is how long between PS3 and PS4 release.
As for money’s worth – there are still a good number of people playing GT5 almost three years from release – okay, there has been a small amount of DLC cost ontop of that but I call that value for money.
Do you not think that “a year or two” (two years, let’s be honest here) is an acceptable time between games? Think Battlefield, Assasins Creed, COD, FIFA, Forza, F1, Uncharted etc…
Hmm, you do realise every one of those games apart from Uncharted is released yearly?
doyley101, 2-3 years is an acceptable amount of time. Taking five years or more to develop one game (ahem GTAV, GT5, Diablo III) is not.
So that means that the game will be delayed, and there will be tons of excuses why, and that the AI will suck as usual (no time to fix it), the sounds will suck as usual (no time to fix it), and that the A-Spec career will be short, not fun, full of grinding, and a pathetic mess, as usual (no time to create something fun and worth playing)..
Wow I didn’t see that coming.. Oh wait, yes I did.
What are you even doing here? Seriously man, get a life.
You’re on a Gran Turismo fan site, hating on Gran Turismo. You’re saying nothing at all constructive. It seems more like you’re trolling with ridiculously far off comments. Find something better to do. Go to forzaplanet if you want to talk that trash. Stop trolling
This isn’t GT5 anymore, BWX.
BWX. Look, I know you’re butthurt, but damn does it hurt THAT much? xD
Forzaplanet’s gone lol!
I cant stop laughing
No games ever complete, thats why they bring out new ones. Im just bidding my time for gt6 :).
just bought a copy of gt2, got to say after ten years since I last played it due to both my other gt disc wont read, it is much better than I thought it was. Glad to see cars like the vauxhall corsa b 1.6 16v, vauxhall vectra b 2.5 v6, vauxhall astra mk4 sri, ford mondeo ghia 2.5 v6, Renault laguna. Too many cars that shoild still be in the gt series.
I hope they bring these back.
yeah, GT2 is one of if not the best game in the series, obviously not graphics or physics-wise, but it just had that special something. the again, it’s hard for me to pick a favourite GT game because all of them have something fun and unique about them
You are spot on with that. Im loving the old feel too it. Reminds me of my young days playing it endlessly.
I really hope they scrap the menus in that ‘demo’. That was just depressing. The cheap waving flag before an event, that horribley generic rock music, the pathetic dialouge box of that gt academy winner greeting you and giving you a tutorial. It makes fm4’s menus look good. Gt5s was just meh. It was obvious, quick and easy to use but nothing amazing.
I have a feeling the waving flag is there to stay, but possibly with different music, rest assured, the little dialogue boxes with the gt academy winner WON’T be there
or at least I hope
Wow, isn’t everyone just spazzing out about Kaz’s “80%” remark – forget the number and read what he actually says. The physics engine is still being tweaked, but content-wise the game is pretty much complete.
The December 6th release date is something I am still 99% confident about (after GT5, that 1% doubt will always be there lol). I think the constant adjustment of physics up until release is fine and is a pretty arbitrary process that can be cut off at any moment and still deliver great physics. GT4 had great physics GT5:P had a very reasonable step up from that. GT5 evolved on the prologues physics and the GT6 demo was another step yet again. Physics will never be perfect, at least until we have the computing power to model the fundamental particles of the universe on the scale of the Planck length… which is insanely far away yet ;)
Ironically I have a software dev project at work that is now about 14mo in progress. I just told my boss the other day that its at 80% and he was thrilled. It will be in production next week.
See software dev is almost never linear. And, if you’re smart you always underquote the actual completed amount. In my case the last 20% will fly because all the core stuff has been done, tested, and debugged for awhile now, just like I presume GT6 is.
I think they most likely have this under control. And if not? They’ll still release it in much better shape than GT5 was at release.
Actually, the game needs to be done in far less than three months as it has to be distributed. I am not all that concerned about it though, they will get it done…they better! :)
i dont no which ps3 to buy the fat one or the slim one?
Buy a fatty 20/60/80 if u can find one. They are backwards compatible. Their are a lot of great PS2 games to still enjoy.
The new slim can play any Playstation game I believe.
Getting a FAT PS3 is a huge risk though. They’re up to 7 years old now. PS3 FAT’s are unreliable compared to PS3 slims. They’re still pretty good, but seriously there’s a good chance that a slim won’t ever die, while PS3 FAT is likely to have problems over time
Hope the last 20 % left will be used in order to add more premium cars, not sure about ordering the game as I’ve seen only three cars worth buying GT6.
I think a lot of people are taking this 80% completion stuff far too seriously, a lot of others are just using it as a chance to troll. I can tell you know that what ever condition GT6 is in now is what we will be getting at release, it takes a couple of months to get the game prepped for launch and distributed to retailers. The PS3 and X360 have with their online capabilities has changed the ways in which developers make their games, a lot of games are released and then improved upon afterwords with multiple updates. This is what I believe is what kaz is referring to when he says “80%”, there will obviously be feature updates for GT6 after it comes out. In my opinion the game is complete for launch but may only be 80% complete in terms of what is planned for the long term of the game. After the mess up of delays with GT5, I don’t think PD or Sony are stupid enough to delay GT6 as well, I think people are also a bit silly to think that there will be delays. The games not gonna launch full of bugs or have a lack of refinement,its that it will not come with all the planned features straight away.
Most complainers have no idea what 20% of 100 is anyway. 20% could simply be their fine tuning of physics and aero and menu system, if the main part of the game is 80% complete why would it be something so ridiculous as to keep the game back? PD finding a new engine to drive the game increasing the visuals fidelity and not burdening the system is simply amazing. Here go the naysayers with the usual nonsense, it doesn’t take much to be a pessimist.
Honestly Kaz could just be saying that because he’s read forums enough to know that many purported fans of GT get the panties in a bunch over every little word he says. Those people you can get a laugh at their expense because they take themselves too damn seriously. I don’t even care much about the release date as I thought since I have GTA V landing and GT6 will be the last two games I’ll buy this year for PS3. Getting too old to let little things like that to throw me off. I hope that the physics and control are tighter and day/night is expanded to more and more courses, especially the one’s that will come as DLC.
It’s hard to say with simulators. You’re trying to simulate reality, how do you know how close you are too perfection?
Considering it’s all in the engine and other mechanics, and the interface functionality, we should be getting a game that feels like more a complete product, especially compared to GT5. (As long as Kaz is being truthful, that is.) What I would expect, if the listed areas AREN’T completed, are odd bugs in certain situations (sort of like GT5’s rampant A.I. early on), and maybe not-as-perfect-as-it-could-be physics that will be improved through updates. Remember how GT5 was adjusted over time, I’d bet GT6 can do the same, at least with the engine and mechanics.
Thank you.
Some people worry too much, seriously.
80% complete…tell me, how is that premium AE86 coming along?
What about premium Supra or Veyron lol.
I feel like Bugatti is stuck brand these days.
What about premium Hakosuka? :P
Great, Great-great, great, and great any more questions? Ahh yeah over there on the left………….
I want to drive that car up there so badly!
I want to drive the Sirocco GT race car more than the Renault!
Good news right? GT6 is supposed to be released in early December, yet, almost a quarter of the game is still not done, yeah sure, GREAT NEWS. It’s not like GT6 is completely different from GT5, what they’ve done could have been done in a year. It’s the modeling of the assets that takes time and we all know how inefficient PD is at modeling cars and tracks. Honestly, how did they got themselves in such a laughable situation and why do we still even care.
The game is 3 months away and you’re already claiming that it will be incomplete like GT5. Get some patience already. I never see you give any constructive criticism, only angry complains.
New engine (suspension, aero, tire, lighting [including adaptive tessellation]), customization options, revamped online modes… Yeah… No, that takes time. It was NOT just the assets. 3-D modelers can’t program the physics coding. The whole team was working on the game, not just the modelers and artists.
If PD wasn’t super-compressing the engine in GT5, GT6 couldn’t exist. The way GT5 was written took the PS3 to the edge. Now that PD knows it’s architecture, they can write better code to fit more into the game. This isn’t stuff you can just “update” into a game, because you’re adjusting the core structure of the entire thing.
Sony must be pushing PD really hard to get the next GT game out on the PS4. Otherwise we wouldn’t have a new game in two years from a perfectionist such as Kaz San/PD.
On the other hand, the remaining 20% of GT6 completion worries me. They have less than 3 months and 20% seems like a whole lot. I know that development times have gotten faster since GT5 (and will get even better on PS4), but completing 20% in three months means completing an entire game in 15 months, which we know PD hasn’t done, and has taken longer than that.
Lastly, I want them to take as much time as they need and give us a complete and good game. I wouldn’t have said that if I didn’t have GTA V to play with and keep me occupied until the eventual release of GT6.
Yeah, Sony needs the next installment of GT on the new console so they can sell the ps4 to the GT fans. I mean I probably won’t buy the ps4 until GT7 comes out. I reckon it will take about 2-3 years for GT7 to come out unlike the Kaz’s prediction.
To be honest, I’m glad they are still at 80%, it means they are still working and improving the game.
I would be really worried if the game was already completed, because we would probably get the issues from GT Academy (bad aliasing and frame rate).
Crossing fingers and hoping they fix that.
Or maybe it just means that PD is a disorganized company that doesn’t do as much as they should do in any given time because their leadership is out galavanting across the world and not doing his job, leading the company in an efficient manner.
So no, it is NOT good that they are slow to change, slow to get anything done (very few new cars, very few new track in general, tiny A-spec, no work on AI, no work on sound for years, etc), and never release anything on time, and put out way less work than they should for the amount of people working on it.
It is BAD. It is very bad for any Gran Turismo fan. Only a “diehard Fanboy” would think that PD going too slow is a good thing.
It is not a good thing for anyone except Microsoft and turn10, and Forza fanboys who love to rub GT fans’ noses into the fact that GT has been sucking lately on many different levels.
@ BWX – It seems you have not read the rest of the comments in this post! In one (trusted) comment, the answer was that PD was at 20% in May, so 80% now sort of fits…
Another comment eluded to the fact that 80% is a general term used by most developers (not just software), even if they’re 99% complete!
So, in your “expert” opinion, how far SHOULD they be by now? When do YOU think it will come out? And why, pray tell, WHY should anyone listen to (read) your rantings and ravings when you have never had a positive word to say?
@BWX, You are taking it too serious mate, none of us know what this “80” really means, we are just wondering what might happen. No need to call anyone a “diehard fanboy”, even because you are the one who seems to have the hearth broken by PD.
I’ll be honest I was hoping for more from the mobile connectivity than just sending a message or two
May be we can keep our eyes on the b-spec race (if it comes back on GT6 lol) with the mobile devices.
20% left to finish, no worries there. PD will have it done for December 6th no doubt.
lol 2, 3 ,4 and 5 were all hugely late but on hearing 6 is 80% done with under 3 months to go your confident it will land on time? lol, this must be your first Kaz led rodeo
lol, kaz has been a pain since GT1 …….. out of all the games, this has been the least impressive… waiting for GT7 will be a standard timeline as if GT6 never existed lol ….. waiting a year or 2 for GT7 no problem lol
GT7 is already in Development along with GT6..
1 year or 2 = 2 years or 4 in PD language ^^
that joke is waaay to old, so dont use it anymore
Other than fixing the horrible counter-steer issues, which weren’t any better in Academy, I’m pretty happy with GT5, but the UI drives me crazy! I have low expectations so I hope they surprise me.
They should work on the UI FIRST! Put the online mode on the first screen. Change cars in practice mode without leaving the track. Filter by PP range (300-400, 400-500, 500-600, 600+). Separate staging from online tuning limitations. And what is the point/difference between save/load replay and save/load ghost again?! Other than to make it more difficult to get to driving options? NONE!
I also hope they have a one button preset for “stock” and fix the “completely restoration” coupon which currently has a very misleading (opposite) description.
PS Be sure to FIX the camera views so you can see driving lines!
Why would you want to see the driving line on photos? Or are you talking about driving views?
If you played the GT6 demo, you’ll see that the UI is far faster, smoother and seems simpler. The same UI has been seen in multiple screenshots and clips about the game, so it should be improved alright.
Counter steer issues? You don’t know what you’re talking about.
@Tom You may have never driven a rear wheel drive car or pickup in the snow. Don’t take my word for it though. Watch the real BMW on Silverstone versus the GT6 sample. In real life you rarely have to correct past center on dry pavement. GT5 requires huge amounts of counter steer in comparison. Also, I believe it is the major reason people are slower with a wheel when they convert from a DS3. They spin out because there isn’t enough counter steer. Now who doesn’t know what they are talking about?
Great, looks like I’ll be getting a PS4 in a year or two, and in the mean time, I’ve got GT6 to play in a couple of months, sound good. I don’t believe 2016 there’ll be GT7, but I’m happy to be proven wrong.
I think Sony is pushing PD really hard to get the next GT game out soon on the PS4, as it’s the biggest seller of the franchise. Development time may have been long before, but I think it will get shorter and shorter from GT6 and beyond.
However, the advantage of GT5 to GT6 is clearly gone when it comes to GT7, not sure if they’re going to have standard cars from two consoles ago to speed that process up, but otherwise its a new engine, ect ect, it is possible that the PS4 will be easier to program for, but I’m not holding my breathe.
The rest of the 20% will be DLC :-( game is costing me £69 DLC an extra ££££
I’m in Australia and getting the pre-order through EB Games (a subsidiary of Gamestop) for $115! You think you’ve got problems?
But you know what? I’ll still be buying ALL of the DLC regardless of cost as I did with GT5!
Something I’ve been wondering. Do you guys in Australia use US dollars or do u have your own currency? Cuz I know u guys are British owned so I’m not sure if the exchange rate might be different. Just curious.
@quigz only Americans use us dollars. I know they try to spend them anywhere and they are usually accepted but Australia, Canada, new Zealand, hong Kong, and anywhere else that use dollars have their own.
Not just Americans use the US dollar. The Caribbean islands and British West Indies use USD and Puerto Rico. Its like how most of Europe uses the Euro now and not all different currencies. I was just wondering because he used the US$ symbol. But since earlier i did some google search and learned its pretty much equivalent in value to the USD that infact that Australia does get ripped off for some stupid reason.
I think he said DLC will be free..?
The Australian $ is sitting around the 92 cent mark on the US $ at the moment but has been at $1.10 earlier this year! The things that cause us to pay so much are import duties, the cost of it being shipped from Japan, GST and other government taxes!
Now, if our government weren’t such a load of thieving little mongrels, we WOULD/SHOULD get it for the same as everywhere else!
@ BeastAgent98 – I think you’re right, but I also think that the free DLC is only going to be the Vision Gran Turismo cars! I could be, and hope, I’m wrong!!
God damn government taxes. They are killing the world economy. No wonder people around the world can’t afford to live.
80% when the release date is so close?? Even this time, Kaz will not suprise us to release a game on time. :)
..and what about engine sounds? nothing?
In an earlier interview, Kaz said the sounds will be “placeholder” sounds until they can be done properly! When they are done, they will be updated…
Meanwhile, we must persevere with the GT5 sounds…..!
Omg, you are the reason no one gets along on GT Planet. Wait and play the damn game before complaining / assuming what’s going on with engine sounds.
“The game is finished about 80%”
Don’t freak out, boys and girls! :) If I remember correctly, Kaz said that the livery editor and a part of visual tuning things are coming soon after the game is done.
Definitely not his exact words, but I think he said something like that. Also, maybe PD are not yet done with car scans? Maybe they need to work more on physics/sound/AI engines? Or custom track editor?
GranTurismo will dominate!
LOL BS
how is it that your name is availible… seriously.. I shouldve been Dunlop Bridge..
LOL GET OUT
I was thinking Senna Chicane…
He said they were at 5-20% in May at Silverstone so that makes sense!
Do those who think the game won’t release on time know what that last 20% entails? People need to stop freaking out. Until otherwise stated, this game is coming December 6th.
Agreed MuoNiuLa. I’m not understanding the negative talkers either. See? They’re just complaining for the sake of it.
If that Reno has the same Ricer Wing in the game… we better have something like Pikes Peak
It’s a Megane Trophy cup car, they’re supposed to have the big wing for downforce.. So it’s not a ricer :p
Where the hell do you see Jean Reno here? ಠ_ಠ
LOL at Jean Reno…
im not sure if anyone else has posted this.. but what he means in a “year or two” is that they will start..
Im highly positive with some of the lack of effort we have seen over the years, that this is not what the majority of us thought. And im not sure if PD has hired anyone since their layoffs, but I assume it still wont be “finished and on the market” in 1 to 2 years.
You’ll see.
80% complete and an early December release date does not compute.
This thing is not making it out on time.
Only 80%?!
Assuming two weeks for disc printing, several weeks for global stock distribution, plus a week or so for final testing – PD need to finish the game at least a month and a half prior to launch. This works out to be the end of October meaning they’ve got 6 weeks to finish almost a quarter of the game.
I foresee a delay coming!
Might be not a delay, just the same thing they did with GT5. There will be GT6 Spec2.0
My way of thinking
All of that is probably included in the 80%. Still, 20% still seems high
I am assuming they are a 100 percent done, when he said “those parts of the user interface are things that we fine tune-right up to the very end”.
With my inference, this means they are done, they are just having fun with the game to tweak it for our better.
No worries from me. :)
Although a year or two for GT7 is good news, let’s just hope standard cars doesn’t return into GT7.
they most probably wont… since they have around 400+ premium cars now and will probably add at least another 300 or 400 new ones in gt7, i highly doubt they will make a return…
400 premiums? Is this correct? I don’t think I’ve heard it before.
Won’t the premium cars from GT6 become standard cars on GT7 to increase the number of cars to something like 1500? Lol
^ The premiums that will be in GT6 aren’t good enough??? How much more real can they get?? Add an extra layer of sheen and there you go. I mean holy hell, I think the premiums are good enough in respect to how they look for next gen, and thats being done on THIS GEN of hardware.
@ LFBlackLabel – I think there are 276 premium cars in GT5, 200 more in GT6 (that’s 476) PLUS any we get as DLC! That will be around 500 premium cars in GT6! As for what OraneSquid said about ANOTHER 300 or 400 being added to GT7 (I reckon about 600 if not ALL), that takes GT7’s total of premium’s to 900+! (I’m guessing there’ll be about 1600 cars in GT7 – ALL PREMIUM!)
@ shurster – Standard cars should not be returning in GT7!
@ sangdude82 – lol
@ shawtyoner – …..
Very good news! Can’t wait for gt6 to come out !
Can we start a “Coundown to GT7” thread now?!?!?!
Cant see how this can spawn so many negative posts, its all good to me, GT6 nearly complete and a next gen GT in a couple of years…that’s awesome and the ‘external energies’ comment is obviously to do with GT being promoted in the real world, GT academy, GT movie, GT collaborations with car manufacturers etc , calm down folks jeez lol
You said it better than I would/could have. I agree.
Exactly my thoughts when I read this article everything that’s coming and getting updated is all fantastic news.
And it should be mentioned that they’ve made GT6 “update friendly.” Whether they meant it about updates or only DLC, Kaz has mentioned that they’ll be updating GT6, so why not develop GT6 and create a way to make updates more simple. It’s inevitable and good for the consumer. Back to the old days, it wasn’t possible. Now, there should be more versions of GT6 that are updated like GT5 so it suits people without internet connections much better. I don’t see why they wouldn’t make GT6 “update friendly” considering EVERYTHING.
That Renault Sport Megane Trophy looks off the F&^$’in hinges!!!!!
Whoa! Gran Turismo 6 is already more complete than Gran Turismo 5!
(har har)
Touche!
I’m never a fan of the idea of releasing a game after 1 year after the previous one, take your time PD.
“trying to help it break out of the shell of the video-game industry.” ???? I don’t know what they are trying to break out of… They only thing I can think of is they are either;
A: Trying to break out of the game industry with this movie that has turned into nothing more than a widespread joke.
B: Referring to being inside of a shell inside the game industry, like they are a small company that not many people have heard of? (how I took it)
And in that case, GT5 is the highest selling game ever on PS3, it has more than doubled the amount of the next closest video game which was… Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.. (From what I have read) Kaz stop talking, your obviously drunk…
Stop commenting, you’re obviously drunk.
Your point being? Am I wrong?
As the movie title goes (not the GT movie of course) this has probably been “lost in translation”. Sometimes this happens where it doesn’t quite come out exactly as what it would have in Japanese, my dad was dutch and he would occasionally say old dutch sayings to me where appropriate and then translate it but mostly ended up a tad broke but I always got the gist of what he was trying to put across to me.
I think what he is trying to say is that PD is trying to do something here with the final 20% of GT6 that will maybe revolutionise the driving / racing genre of the video game industry. Maybe he is working at trying to create a movement which to a lesser degree he has already started with GT academy.
But I think you are maybe being a tad harsh on Kaz-san. After he is human and like all of us prone to error remember it’s not like GT6 is life or death thing or making tough political choices which affect our way of life it’s the entertainment industry specifically gaming they are involved in, lets face it he(PD) have brought us as you advised the highest selling PS3 game of all time which that alone says something
The movie has been a widespread joke, but it was not widespread by me. I will not judge it until I see it, which I gladly will! :) .. He stated that they are trying to do something such as you stated in your second paragraph, then it goes on to say “And…. Trying to push external…” So I am just confused by the meaning of this. Yes I am sure things may have been lost in translation, I guess we’ll just have to wait in see?!
Fair call on the movie, I am with you on that, everyone will interpret the film differently as we all vary in what to us, ourselves a great movie. I think until we see GT6 out for real it would be unfair to slam the game before playing the final released product
I have no idea how the movie has become a point of contention, but in answer to your question jgancherjr, yes you are quite confused.
Where did Kaz say that PD as a company was breaking out of a Shell? Or that the upcoming had anything to do with greater exposure for GT series? Heck the movie isn’t even mentioned in the blog. You read way more into his statement then was necessary.
Maybe I did? Lol I don’t know.. But here it is:
We’re devoting ourselves to two forces in GT6. One is honing the internal mechanics of the game, the physics engine and user interface and so on. **** Another **** is pushing the title’s external energies, *****trying to help it break out of the shell of the video-game industry.*****
From what I am reading (and interpreting in my opinion).. They want to use the game to help push the series and company out from just the world of video games. Polyphony digital is just a small internal company for Sony, they’ve created 3 series of games and probably play a role in the production of the movie. Now you could argue “GT Academy” may be what he is referring to, but as of right now, outside of initial testing of the participants, Polyphony Digital does not have much to do with it either. Maybe they want to play a bigger role in that? It is still unclear i’m sure to a lot of people, but hopefully it will be cleared up soon! :)
Based on a theory in visual effects, and industries like it (like games), it takes as much time to do the last 20% of a game, as it takes to get the first 80%. If GT6 is 80% done (even without considering this theory), and will be released in less than 3 months time (means the game has to deliver in just over 2), I guess I can’t expect much more of a completion expectation than we saw at the release of GT5.
You can’t really put ‘all the physics’ or ‘5 tracks’ in that 20%. That 20% is ALL fine tuning to make a game good. The 80% mark means things are just working.
Also, if they say GT7 in 1 or 2 years away, all I see is an uprezzed, prettier version on GT6. Doubt there will be many more cars, tracks, or features really.
Oh, because “%” is a standardized unit by which you measure development progress? I don’t think so.
@eran0004 well by us scientists who are actually paid, no it isnt.. (good one though)
@Falango did you ever think that he is the director of the game? Meaning he carries over all orders for it from distributors, ask panels to see how it is, revise with the editors and creators…
No, you didnt.. And did you ever notice he was talking that GT7 will most likely be done (meaning started) in 1 to 2 years..
No, you didnt..
Id hop off if I were you stay missing for a long time
1-2 years for GT7? HA! Tack on 3-4 onto that, then well talk.
You mean 2-3 years since Kaz said when GT5 released that we wouldn’t have to wait nearly as long for GT6, and developers are saying that it’s much more easier to use the PS4.
Game, set, match AJ!
haha I love Game Set Match.
“Things like game modes are complete” now we’re just waiting for the latest renderings of cars to be finished. I think that’s why it’s 80% complete.
That’s a good interpretation of it. Thinking it’s entirely physics and frame-rate issues and other obvious things doesn’t seem likely to be the last “20%.”
agreed, also it maybe the track editor Kaz has discussed plus hopefully the way the cars will sound which we all agree needs attention – and we all vary greatly on how close or far off they are at present in our own opinions. Also hoping for some other surprises here as well as I am sure there will still be a few big things announced in the final lead up to release
I’m glad that he’s really focused on making the community/multiplayer features the best possible.
Gran Turismo is basically the call of duty of racing games, but with GT5, it’s multiplayer is basically at the CoD 2 stage lol. What they need is their “CoD 4” of the series, and then the multiplayer will really take off.
Don’t analogize GT with CoD. It makes you look foolish.
Apples and oranges, they do not compare just because they are both round and a fruit
Need for speed seems more like the call of duty of racing games.
HKS hit the nail on the head.
CoD and GT share very few characteristics at all.
80 percent does seem er bit low considering the amount of time they have left. excited about the PS4 news though.
that 20% will be DLC’s lol ………. still not seeing that giant step from GT5, 1-2 years for GT7 I might be able to wait lol
lol………lol………..Lame.
Oh yeah Boosted. Say kids, lets just skip the new title and wait for the other. That suuuure sounds very sma–….. *Gets hit by chair*
Yeah, you have fun waiting, while most of us won’t be on GTP due to playing GT6 at its release.
hahahaha Toko you make me laugh, yeah brah if they wanna miss out its all good it affects neither you or I. So let em be miserable and sip that haterade. We all are entitled to do as we please some will just have more fun doing it than others
Waiting is boring. GT is fun (for a whole lot of us).
Fun For Me Downunder too!
Very well said sayba2th. I totally agree with you bro. :D
I hope that was a translation error. If not then we’re getting another unfinished GT game. Kazunori needs to stop promoting GT Academy and get his priorities correct, because at this late into the development cycle the game should be %95+ percent complete not 80.
How much of his time is spent making GT Academy a priority considering that Nissan is the one really in charge of it? And I’m guessing you think his racing takes up 20% of the time that could be spent developing an entire game that no developer would feel is complete until they move on to a completely different series, but even then…
“By now the game should be [insert arbitrary number]% complete!”
Yeah, right. You don’t even know what those 80% are, or what your 95% would be. Why not just say that it should be one gazillion % complete by now? Surely, that must be much better.
Haha, with just 12 weeks to release GT6 should be ready not part ready!
I reckon it’s either a mis-interpretation or maybe it’s like the ‘NFL bad lip reading’ clip on youtube and KY actually said something completely different like “80% of my staff are working on GT7”.
Why is it that Kaz always uses 80%? Everytime someone asks him how far devellopment is or how much of his ideas are in te game, he says about 80%. Funny actually.
I’ve never noticed it being used before now.
So those 80% have taken them, give or take, 33 months. The remaining 20% should take them approximately 8 months to make then, and they have 3 left. Draw your own conclusions.
Yea…a guess is a conclusion and GT6 is GT5.5. Uhhh huh
Assuming that 80% is an actual measurement and that development is linear.
Neither of those are likely to be true.
Nicely said AJ and Eran. As the 20% is all about physics and the like, it can’t be quantified in quite the same way as adding vehicles and tracks, surely. The structure and contents form the 80% plus framework for the physics and effects – the 20% is the refinement – the clearcoat if you like.
What could we expect from the “20%” remaining? Considering that all the most important part are already done.
HAHA Kaz and his bold statements.
But at least he has vision, yes he may not always deliver on some of the things promised but he(PD) has for 15 years provided all of us with fantastic games that satisfy a good segment of players
Yea boa. This is great news!
My very first reaction when I read this news was “WTF holy shi*” (with my hands up in the aire) And the funny thing is that I live at Spain and my main language is Spanish of course…lol
Too much GTPlanet I´m loosing my own language. ;(
lol …
Yeya! :D
sick as bro
and officially not buying GT6 now that GT7 is coming so soon, this proves GT6 really was more of a GT5.5 fundraiser for the REAL sequel.
“We develop our physics engine based on the results of all the test measurements that we make,” he said, “but it’s not necessarily the case that these measurement results are always going to be the same as actual driving conditions. What’s more, even now there are still a lot of things that happen to a car in motion that we don’t fully understand. In other words, there’s room for imagination in this genre, and I think the part of any game’s physics engine that’s more ‘imagination’ is what makes one sim feel different from each other.”
Sweeet.
Have fun missing out then. ;)
sorry but 1 to 2 years will most likely turn out to be 2. I’m definetly not waiting two years to save 50$ by not buying a great racing game. The improved physics engine alone makes it worth buying.
2K that’s a great philosophy brah! The new physics will indeed make it worth it alone. I know I can’t wait!
So, exactly what in that interview constitutes an evidence of what you’re trying to claim?