PS3 General Discussion

Well, I'm in for a 60 gig version.

Sonic!
Devil May Cry
Gran Turismo HD
Metal Gear Solid
Resident Evil
Tekken
Virtua Fighter
Warhawk
And Forza 2 :D
 
Price - $499 with 20GB HDD, $599 with 60GB HDD.

Euros same. Hopefully £'s less, but I doubt it....

I did like the look of nearly all the games. Even liked that Eye-Toy game and thought the Singstar was very clever.
Like to see better quality before I judge though.
 
KENJIusa
Ps3 Controller Look Exactly Like The Ds2!

....and it has motion sensor
I like to confrim that twice, after watching the whole conference live. Well the new joypad is lighter, aswell as having the bottom thumb changed. Also it is 6 degrees sensor, the PS3's graphics shows.

How well it can handle CGI graphics in real time, also prices:

Asia: 59,800 yet
USA: $599 for 60GB version.
UK: 599 euros for 60GB version.

GT HD, was just made for E3. And well the graphics will be improved, it showed a scooter and cars on the menu.

More cars off and on track, bigger crowds in game. And GT5 will not expand the series, but explode it into bigger areas.

That building that got blew up in last years E3, is part of a game called Eight Days. And well that is one of the best looking games I have seen too date, PS3 will also have Crysis, HL2 (Since VU Games came up on the list of companys and devs supporting PS3).

And F.E.A.R, I cannot remember much at the moment. But I post more up later on. But you will be able to buy a 80GB HDD.
 
i'm sure it wouldnt be a 1080p rehash seeing there were bikes in it. You can bet that people would buy it anyway. funny thing is they never said it was or wasnt coming out :)

i'm glad Sony stuck with the DS design, all it need was better analoge sticks. I dont think the mothin sensor stuff was needed although sony had the patent for it long ago Its $100 more than a 360 premium but i guess free online play and blu-ray covers that. Sign me up for the 20GB package.
 
Ok, so they're releasing one for $500 with a 20GB hard drive, and one for $600 with a 60GB hard drive. They're still using the DS2 design, and they stole the Nintendo Wii's idea for a motion sensor compatible controller. Wow. So much for originality, Sony. Way to go.
 
Dang....600$. I don't know about that one. That's a LOT of money. Period. I know it's going to be tight, but 600$??? I think I'll sell a few on ebay though. :)
 
Meh, I don't see why the DS2 should be lightened. In my opinion, the DS2's weight and balance is nearly perfect, with a somewhat solid feel. $499 isn't too bad in my opinion though, considering that it plays Blu-Ray movies, 1080p output, and has a 20 GB hard drive.

For those who haven't seen it, a somewhat mediocre picture of the new controller.

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Swift
Dang....600$. I don't know about that one. That's a LOT of money. Period. I know it's going to be tight, but 600$??? I think I'll sell a few on ebay though. :)
The PS3 can run CGI graphics in real game playing time better then the 360. And of course the PS3 will not break down as much.

Ok here is a full run down of the events at the Sony conference.

Source: GameSpot

4:40pm: Attendees are filing into the auditorium as a DJ spins the Beastie Boys, Michael Jackson, and Sean Paul. A giant screen bears the classic PlayStation logo. Banks of monitors flank the room on either side of the stage.
4:52: Kaz Hirai takes the stage and welcomes the crowd. He mentions Sony's 2005 E3 Conference and the unveiling of the PlayStation 3. "In essence, the real power of the PLayStation 3 rests in the hands of the content creators and ultimately the consumers.... PlayStation 3 is the most ambitious project we have ever undertaken in our history."

4:55: Hirai teases some of today's news, but then says it's time to take a look back at Sony's past performance.

4:59: At the 18-month mark, the PSP is the fastest selling console in Sony history. They shipped 47.3 million games as of the end of March. And now they're showing a list of new games for releease by the end of the year. Apr Escape 2. Planet PSP. Killzone Liberation. B-Boy breakdancing game., Loco Roco. Syphon Filter Dark Mirror.World Tour Soccer 2. Talk Man. Gangs of London.

5:03: The Greatest Hits program is coming to PSP starting with ATV Offroad Fury, Ape Escape: On the Loose, Hot Shots Golf, Twisted Metal, and Wipeout Pure.

5:05:RSS channel, expanded UMD video profile, Voice-over IP, camera and GPS support being added to PSP in future updates. Then they show a video of gamers around the world talking about their PlayStation memories.

5:08: It's arefresher course on the PS3 stats. It will support standard definition as well as high-def setups. It will communicate with the PSP and support Blu-ray video, PSone, and PS2 games.

5:12: Hirai gives a few stats saying PS users are more likely to be HD viewers. The Hard disc drive will ship with a hard drive in the box for every system.

5:14: Hirai says the "clear black" color system will be available at launch.

5:15: SCE president of worldwide studios Phil Harrison takes the stage, then promptly introduces Kazunori Yamauchi of Polyphony Digital. Yamauchi is holding what looks like a DualShock controller.

5:19: The next Gran Turismo will run at 60fps with menus designed for HD resolution. Players will be able to play vehicles ranging from race cars to commercial transportation to scooters. Hirai demonstrates the Tokyo track in replay form. He says it is broadcasting three times the amount of information on screen as normal HD broadcasts, or 12 times the amount of information GT4 on the PS2 conveys to a television. In loading another track, he asks the audience to pay attention to the load times. For Gran Turismo HD, he says it has been optimized for the hard drive-equipped PS3 and says players should be able to get from the menu to the race in two or three seconds. For the demo shown, it takes slightly longer.

5:24: A pack of cars race around a track. The engines sound like jets taking off an aircraft carrier, but before the race is finished, they cut back to the original Gran Turismo to show how far the series has come.


5:28: The third track demo is the Grand Canyon with vintage cars racing around. After the demo, Hirai says Sony will be conducting beta testing based on GT4 online capabilities in Japan and the US. He says the world of GT will not expand, but rather explode. They hope to deliver the next GT "not too far" from the PS3 launch.

5:31: EyeToy creator Dr. Richard Marx is here to introduce the Eye of Judgment, an EyeToy card battle monster game. He is placing real cards in the EyeToy's view and monster graphics are appearing on the cards to do battle. This game will be at Sony's booth.

5:34: Kaz Hirai is back out to talk about the online strategy. He says online and network will be like air conditioning in a car: a standard feature. He says online and networking for the PS3 "is as essential as the air that we breathe." He says by offering a variety of social functionalities beyond gaming (messaging, player profiles, friends list), Sony will create a community, a "virtual society," free of charge.

PSP users will be able to play emulated PSone games booting up directly from the memory stick. He navigates through the PSP menu and boots up a game. Galaga comes up as the game loads. It's Ridge Racer.

5:40: Hirai says this is part of Sony's plans to leverage its systems lifespans and extend them for more than 10 years. People can pick up for "The PlayStation Card" at retailers, which will allow them to buy additional content. Phil Harrison shows the online store interface for the PS3.

He shows an example of how it will work using Singstar for the PS3, scrolling through dozens of songs from Billy Joel to Destiny's Child. The interface includes a price ($0 for now to keep the pricing strategy secret) as well as other information about the song. There's also the option to see who else is on Singstar, and customize the user's background.

5:45: Bill Rich of Game Republic takes the stage to introduce Genji 2. Dozens of samurai battle on screen as Bill cuts them down where they stand. He switches characters on the fly, and says that ability will be used by players to create new and unique combos. To take on a giant crab boss, he uses the more powerful character to flip the crab on its back, then calls in the swift character to hop on its stomach and attack a glowing purple weak point. This will also be playable at Sony's E3 booth.

5:50: Harrison shows a PS3 F1 game with an interactive wing mirror. A PSP he is holding is displaying a rear view in the game in real-time.

5:51: Ninja Theory's Heavenly Sword is next. A red-headed woman in white uses a pair of large swords and a variety of hand-to-hand combat techniques to best a number of opponents in gladitorial combat. The screen cuts to cinematic angles for special moves and particularly impressive sequences, including one complex sequence that has players following a number of button prompts on screen.

5:56: A quick trailer of Lair played, followed by clips from the next Getaway, Afrika (working title), Everybody's Golf (better known as Hot Shots Golf in the US), and Monster Kingdom. They are followed by the debut of Eight Days, which showed a high octane shootout at a dusty truckstop in the middle of nowhere.

6:03: Next up is a trailer for Naughty Dog's next project. A pan around maps and jungles ends when a man in a t-shirt and jeans starts getting into gunfights with armed mercenaries. No name was given, and they quickly go to Insomniac president Ted Price taking the stage. He talks about Resistance: Fall of Man, about an alternate history where World War II never happened and aliens invade. He says it is "intense, bleak, and brutal." Then he introduces a trailer for it.

6:07: The Resistence trailer qualifies as bleak, brutal, and intense. It is a noisy, violent first-person shooter set in an utterly destroyed city. Price thanks the audience and says the game will be playable at the show. Harrison says "that sums up our playable section," and returns the stage to Hirai. Hirai turns the topic to third parties, and introduces a selection of titles from other publishers. Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed is first, followed by a new Gundam game from Bandai Namco, Konami's Coded Arms Assault, Bandai Namco's Ridge Racer 7, Ubisoft's Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, Bandai Namco's Tekken 6, Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog, Sega's Virtua Tennis 3, Sega's Virtua Fighter 5, Midway's Stranglehold, Koei's Fatal Inertia, Koei's Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War, and From Software's Armored Core 4.

:17: Electronic Arts CEO Larry Probst takes the stage. He says he will show two brief demos, and introduces NBA Live executive producer Kevin Wilkinson. He shows a PS3 player model reacting to a cursor moving in 3D space, then shows a PS2 player model not reacting to the same thing. He details "footplanting, which makes the players in the PS3 game actually have to move their feet and plant them to move instead of just sliding around. He shows the players moving around in 360-degree arcs, then demonstrates a real-time demo of what he's talking about.

6:21: The second EA demo is for Tiger Woods's next game, which uses the "Ucap" motion capture technique. Instead of a playable golf game, the demo shows a lifelike Tiger Woods model that grins, frowns, and reacts to shots with realistic facial expressions and body mannerisms.

6:25: A trailer for Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII is shown, with a couple scattered hoots and hollers throughout the audience. Then a Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer comes up, to an even larger crowd reaction. It deals with the next game's plot and shows a number of the returning characters rendered in detail for the PS3. An elderly Solid Snake talks about one last thing he has to do, then puts a loaded gun in his mouth, calling it his "final mission."

6:32: Ken Kutaragi takes the stage, and asks the crowd if they enjoyed the latest progress on Ps3 titles, which is met with some applause and cheers. Kutaragi then promises "one more big thing we have kept secret." He talks about the controller of the 1994 PlayStation controller's debut. He promises to enhance controllability to the next tier for the next generation. He then holds up the final PS3 controller. It's a silver DualShock with a little black button in the middle with the classic PlayStation logo. He asks Harrison to demonstrate what the controller can do. A demo trailer shows a crate, hopping around of its own accord. It breaks open and the PS3 controller is inside. He lifts the controller up, and the controller on the screen lifts up. With no external sensor required, he can move the controller in six degrees of movement.

6:36: Harrison notes that the Bluetooth-capable, wireless controller will be lighter than the PS2's normal controller, and calls it "a fantastic innovation." Harrison says Incognito's Warhawk will make use of the motion-sensing capabilities, then asks Incognito's Dylan Jobe to demonstrate. He controls the game's fighter using the PS3 controller as a proxy, tilting the controller to gain altitude, bank, perform barrel rolls and other actions.

6:41: Hirai takes the stage once again and recaps what's been seen so far. Then he announces the global launch details. It will be available in two versions: one with a 60GB hard drive, and one with 20GB. It will launch in the US on November 17 for $499 ($549 CDN) for the 20GB version and $599 ($659 CDN) for the 60GB one. The machine will launch in Japan on November 11 with the 20GB version fetching 59,800 yen, and the 60GB one bearing an "open price," which means retailers will set the price themselves. Europe and Australia will also get the mahcine on November 17, with the 20GB version running for 499 euros, and the 60GB configuration going for 599 euros. Hirai thanked the audience and invited them to get their hands on PS3 games at kiosks throughout the hall.

Images from GS

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It'd been nice if the controller was a little different, if only to differentiate it from the DS2. And I wonder if it's lighter because it has no rumble as a rumour has said? Is it a DS3?

Heavenly Sword looked good. And remember Sony are at the same stage with their games as Microsoft were last year, though I think Sony has had more time overall. But then again Microsoft rushed the 360.

As for the price. 499 Euros work out as £341. $499 works out as £270. What will we pay in the UK? £400 at a guess though £350 is more reasonable (it should be £300 but it won't go that low).
 
Is it really worth it for the extra 40GB of space? How much will we actually use? Methinks I'll be going "Core" for this one, and get the cheaper one. Especially if it can network with a PC through wi-fi... you can use your PC to store stuff.

I'm not sure about the controller, though.. seems kinda weak to rip off the Wii-mote so blatantaly. Then again, that means the 360 is even further behind, since they're the only next-gen console without a motion-sensitive controller.
 
Also I enjoyed the duck from the card, that duck is so kool. Anyway 599 euros is: £409, and I used XE converter for the price.
 
Ok, so they're releasing one for $500 with a 20GB hard drive, and one for $600 with a 60GB hard drive. They're still using the DS2 design, and they stole the Nintendo Wii's idea for a motion sensor compatible controller. Wow. So much for originality, Sony. Way to go.


They did not steal the idea, they simply used it. Both Microsoft and Sony had patented motion sensor ideas a long time ago.
 
Damn all this had to be on when I'm sleeping, now I cant seem to watch the conference at Gamespot. :(
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
Also I enjoyed the duck from the card, that duck is so kool. Anyway 599 euros is: £409

If you want to see how much the US price in UK pounds here, then well check this site out:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/
Yeah, that's the one I used! £409 for the 60GB isn't too bad, in some respects. But I'd rather get the cheaper and buy a 60 HDD 6 months later.
 
slackbladder
Yeah, that's the one I used! £409 for the 60GB isn't too bad, in some respects. But I'd rather get the cheaper and buy a 60 HDD 6 months later.
But your still be paying more for the 60GB version, I just buy the 60GB version. And then 2 months down the line buy the 80GB version.

Slack I bet there be a headset out for the PS3's online functions.
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
The PS3 can run CGI graphics in real game playing time better then the 360. And of course the PS3 will not break down as much.

It's a given that the PS3 is a better system then Xbox360, but only time will tell if they'll break done as much.

Thanks for the rundown of E3. :)
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
But your still be paying more for the 60GB version, I just buy the 60GB version. And then 2 months down the line buy the 80GB version.

Slack I bet there be a headset out for the PS3's online functions.

True but finding £400+ at launch will be harder than £100+ 6 months later. And 60GB will be enough....perhaps!

As for a headset, probably. On the back of the controller is a USB port.Link
 
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More up later on. And the back is most likely going to be used for charging up the battery, I bet the headset will be wireless.
 
I found this about motion sensing technology...

PS3 to Feature Motion Sensing Technology?
By James Brightman -- EIC, GD Biz
Published 4:40 PM CDT, November 25, 2003

Sony might let gamers control the PS3 the way Tom Cruise controlled the computer in Minority Report...

SCEE vice president Phil Harrison recently spoke with the Australian Financial Review. He revealed to the publication that Sony is currently investigating the use of motion sensing technology for their next-generation console. Furthermore, the motion sensing digital camera, EyeToy, and its associated games have actually been used as a preliminary test for the technology. Most would probably agree that Sony's early test was a success -- certainly sales of the EyeToy in Europe would seem to indicate that.

"EyeToy was a signpost for things in the future. If you can attach very high-resolution, low-cost video cameras you can deduce some quite interesting things about their users. We'll be able to extrapolate eye movement and gestural recognition, more complicated finger movement, and the logical next step of that is to deduce from a person's facial expression and demeanour what their emotion state is," said Mr. Harrison.

Harrison then went on to discuss even cooler possibilities, such as new menu systems that could be controlled by gamers simply waving a hand in a certain direction. He compared it to the futuristic computer database used by Tom Cruise in the film Minority Report. Of course, just because Sony is working on these features doesn't mean they're a lock for the PS3. Nevertheless, it's great to hear about some of the ideas swirling around at Sony's R&D.

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it was going so well until the price... eight days and killzone better look like those CG´s to make avarage people pay 600U$...

i was amazed that F1 really looked like the CG demo from last year... really cool...

one downside: PD didn´t had the GT5 engine to show, so that means they are ways to go to get a release date... it smells like early 2008 for me... with most cars coming aftervia download... still, the presentation was impressive. if it wasen´t for the price, the xbox360 would be in real trouble... but with a possible price drop and the wii way cheaper, we might have a fight in the near future...
 
evilgenius788
Meh, I don't see why the DS2 should be lightened. In my opinion, the DS2's weight and balance is nearly perfect, with a somewhat solid feel. $499 isn't too bad in my opinion though, considering that it plays Blu-Ray movies, 1080p output, and has a 20 GB hard drive.
1. The HD-DVD vs Blu-ray battle isn't over.

2. How many people's TVs can display 1080p? My LCD can't, only 720p and 1080i, and 480p. My HDTV downstairs doesn't even support 720p.

3. The 360 has the 20GB hard drive, for $100 less. And who's going to use 60GB?

TVR_Fan
And of course the PS3 will not break down as much.
Umm... how do you know? :dunce:
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
Its not complety the same, the joypad is not going to how flaws like the Wii controller.
Have you even tested the Wii-mote to know it has flaws?

What if the PS3 breaks down after you get it in November? What if the controller doesn't work well?

Stop acting like you played the PS3 and the Wii for 6 months and you feel like you're qualified to comment on the quality of the next gen systems, when you haven't even played them.

:rolleyes:
 
Wow, talk about a sticker shock! :ill: Only thing that justifies the $499 MSRP for me is the PS3's capability as a Blu-ray DVD player. At this time, I can't see myself spending over $400 on a video game system.
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
Its not complety the same, the joypad is not going to how flaws like the Wii controller.


? you mean have flaws? The Wii use ir signals the DS3(?) doesn't. Its not the same correct? I too was a little rattle by the price. but after seeing what it has an can do 20GB's isnt a bad deal.
 
1. The HD-DVD vs Blu-ray battle isn't over.

2. How many people's TVs can display 1080p? My LCD can't, only 720p and 1080i, and 480p. My HDTV downstairs doesn't even support 720p.

3. The 360 has the 20GB hard drive, for $100 less. And who's going to use 60GB?


Umm... how do you know? :dunce:
1. yeah, it's not, but the 360 doesn't have the damn HD-DVD drive, and if MS decides to add HD-DVD to the 360, it's gonna be for viewing movies only, so happy playing games on DVD.
2. By the time the PS3 comes out, there will be plenty of HDTVs that capable of display 1080p,
2. how about saying that PS3 only costs $100 more, and it comes with blueray, 1080p, and capability of handling seven wireless controllers with MOTION SENSOR:idea:
 
Have you even tested the Wii-mote to know it has flaws?

What if the PS3 breaks down after you get it in November? What if the controller doesn't work well?

Stop acting like you played the PS3 and the Wii for 6 months and you feel like you're qualified to comment on the quality of the next gen systems, when you haven't even played them.

:rolleyes:
I,ve never had one console break down on me, expect the old CD-32. When you get older you treat your stuff with more care, and also when older you know to show the PSU off from the 360.

So it does not break. And I know the Wii will have flaws, once you look at what games it needs to be used with the joypad.

But Sony have the experince, to make a great joypad not have flaws.
 
my connection broke down after fatal inertia... anyone interested in sharing what they shown in need for speed carbon and nba live? is it something impressive from EA?
 
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