The Lion's Den - California Now Released

Well, I just checked, no mods posted in my thread either. But then again, I don't really care about who's not posting in my threads (though I hope they are happy with the stuff I come up with). It's the people that do post that provide me with the feedback I require. Which, in both our cases, is mostly positive. Anybody can have an off day, don't worry about it. If you want to feel better read P3nT4gR4m's review of my Skyline Coupe. :D
 
Well, I just checked, no mods posted in my thread either. But then again, I don't really care about who's not posting in my threads (though I hope they are happy with the stuff I come up with). It's the people that do post that provide me with the feedback I require. Which, in both our cases, is mostly positive. Anybody can have an off day, don't worry about it. If you want to feel better read P3nT4gR4m's review of my Skyline Coupe. :D

TBH I don't care that they don't post in my thread either. I was just pointing out that there's a reason they don't.
 
By the way, does anyone feel like there's something I'm not doing for the GTP community as a tuner that I should be? The quality of my tunes aren't slipping are they?:scared: I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

?????? No need to doubt yourself man! Great work, great tunes! Time you invest in the tunes is greatly appreciated by the driversquadron :):)
 
By the way, does anyone feel like there's something I'm not doing for the GTP community as a tuner that I should be?

You must be kidding .....right. Anything that enables members to become more informed, be it tuning, configuring a G25, creating track maps to be used in a race report, gathering car stats, to name but a few activities that go on in this forum is always a good thing.

You happen to specialise in tuning. I'd give an arm (well nearly :sly:) to be able to do that.

You have no reason to doubt yourself.

AMG.
 
Yes, but I know for a fact that 2 of my recent tunes, while better than stock, don't seem to be quite extracting the potential of the vehicle based on recent reviews and/or comments. Quality for some reason is slipping, and most people will tell you my knowledge doesn't mean much. Ever wondered why moderators never post in any of my threads, but do in others? In fact, mods normally ignore me completely unless I ask them a direct question. Just some food for thought.

PS- Beer sucks, rum is better.:sly:
I think the tunes rock personally, so don't be so hard on yourself! Oh, I tried the AM Vette stock last night on pro physics- it's pretty tough but I'm just getting used to going from std physics- can't wait to see what you can do with it when you get the chance.

Oh, and if you can get 'er down unda, try Appleton's Estate Jamaican rum. I used to drink Barardi, Bacardi Limon, or Captain Morgan. Appleton looks like Captain Morgan but is a little less sweet while still more flavor than white rum. Fell in love with it in Runaway Bay on vacation.... Jamaica FTW! (Also, the Rum adds a new challenge in GT5:P. (I'd get virtual DUI's most nights if GT had sobriety check points online!)
 
TBH I don't care that they don't post in my thread either. I was just pointing out that there's a reason they don't.

By the way, which 2 cars are you talking about? Anyway, last time I checked this thread has 17,725 views and 394 replies, which makes you the single most successful thread with useful info!!!! So congratulations Doc! I totally agree with everyone here with regards to the quality of service you provide. Weren't it for people like you, 888, and NlxArosa, then this game wouldn't be playable at all - for people like me anyway. I mean who'd actually enjoy spending hours tuning a car? Not the majority of us anyway. Most of us just want to get in and drive.

You may not be recognized by some folks here but who cares? They get alot of satisfaction from having the know-how, finishing first, and bagging all the virtual credits - while keeping all to themselves. Someone's always better - more power to them. I just find it unfortunate that they are not as generous as you guys in the tuning biz

You've captured and established yourself a very important niche in GTP. Hell, were this a paying service I'd actually signup just to play this game.

I would like to reiterate again with sincere gratitude. Thank you so very much from saving my game from being a $40 coaster.

PS. I've only visited there a couple of times and there's this one rum that i really enjoy - bondi bay i think it was
 
When I first got behind the wheel of your GT-R R35 It inspired me to write a review. Now I'm carving out a niche for myself as a tune reviewer. I'd never even have thought about that before I drove that Nissan setup.

So I gave you a dodgy score - take some consolation in the fact that I'm a rubbish driver. Well maybe not rubbish but certainly nothing special. I have a good feel for the cars but I'm constantly getting owned on track. You on the other hand have won heaps of praise from most of the tunes you've posted. You're a goddamn star - so quit winging and get tuning!
 
By the way, does anyone feel like there's something I'm not doing for the GTP community as a tuner that I should be? The quality of my tunes aren't slipping are they?:scared: I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

I almost rolled over laughing when I read this! You are being way too hard on yourself.

Seriously, each of your setups are leaps and bounds better than most of the settings I have found elsewhere on the GT5 fansites. Tuning is an art and there is no such thing as a perfect tune. Not everyone is going to do it the same way and everyone's driving style is different as well. Also, you stated that use a controller, so some of your setups may not feel as good to some guys who use a wheel. I am in awe by the fact that you are making these wonderful setups using a controller and I could not even imagine what they would feel like if you had a wheel.

In Live For Speed, I've tried literally hundreds of setups over the years. They make it so easy because one player can "send" their setup to another player while racing online. You can also download sets and import them to your car. I have yet to find anyone who can consistently tune such a wide variety of cars in any sim with the same consistency and quality that your setups have.

I for one can easily say that I have greatly enjoyed each and every one. It's the end results that matter. I have yet to read a single post where someone exclaimed, "I lost every race to holden's setup." Do you know why? Because you are turning us little guys in to winners! 👍 👍

Actually, I am wondering why you aren't charging us for this stuff. (Please don't! :sly:)

I am a PC sim guy first and foremost. Your setups are one of the primary factors keeping me interested in console land.

Keep up the great work. You are making this game better for all of us.
 
holden man...great job on another awesome tune! I tried the Amuse S2000 yesterday, and what a car! You'll be pleased to know i took 3 podiums in it's first 3 races (gold, gold, bronze). The thing accelerates like a motorcycle, and is very confidence inspiring. I can park it about one foot off the final chicane with no messing about. The one thing i hate about driving this car (coming from a turbo owner..ha!) is the way you have to keep the turbo on the boil. It can suprise you sometimes in the esses, but your tune made it very easy to keep the rear end in check. Anyways, keep up the great work man.
 
By the way, does anyone feel like there's something I'm not doing for the GTP community as a tuner that I should be? The quality of my tunes aren't slipping are they?:scared: I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

Honestly you're being too hard on yourself, your tunes are the best and I have no idea how you can get every car spot-on, because you tune so many totally different cars and all of your tunes that I've driven are just amazing, take the 512BB, that car is just great I blame myself for not being able to drive it fast properly but even though I keep crashing I'm still having the time of my life, so taking something frustrating and making it fun, I think your should be proud.

You were on the Garage Showdown, sure we didn't win but at least in the NTSC races I was the only driver who got 1st twice, and I'll be the first to say I'm pretty much talentless, so all that I could do was thanks to your tune, and what's more you've even got loyal fans like ardius, doblocruiser and myself, and I'm pretty sure there's even more fans of TLD out there.

Trust me your doing great and providing a great service to the GTP community, so far you're the most popular tuner in the GT5P section, and you're doing great to keep things that way.
 
Hi there nd4. I've said a bit about it in the Meeting thread, but just thought I'd reiterate here. Your 147 setup has really made me think. I'm really surprised at the stiffness of the front and the soft rear, but it works so well. My own tune was less Ride Height at the front than the rear, and stiffer rear, softer front to put weight on the front under brakes.

Your tune blew mine out of the water. I'm especially impressed by the sweetness of corner entry under braking. It totally eliminates the understeer I felt before. The car feels compliant and predictable, it really holds its line. I'm going to really struggle to find any improvement.

If you're feeling generous, I'd love to have a Lion's Den setup for an Elise to play with.

Big respect to you. I've just applied your 512BB settings and can already tell that they're going to get me podiums in 600PPs.

Cheers
 
Thanks everyone for the reassurance, but from now on I'm spending a lot more thought process on each tune, so hopefully I intend on improving quality from now on.



holden man...great job on another awesome tune! I tried the Amuse S2000 yesterday, and what a car! You'll be pleased to know i took 3 podiums in it's first 3 races (gold, gold, bronze). The thing accelerates like a motorcycle, and is very confidence inspiring. I can park it about one foot off the final chicane with no messing about. The one thing i hate about driving this car (coming from a turbo owner..ha!) is the way you have to keep the turbo on the boil. It can suprise you sometimes in the esses, but your tune made it very easy to keep the rear end in check. Anyways, keep up the great work man.

Thanks for the review.👍 Getting people better places across the finish is one of my goals, and I'm glad I've done that for you.

Hi there nd4. I've said a bit about it in the Meeting thread, but just thought I'd reiterate here. Your 147 setup has really made me think. I'm really surprised at the stiffness of the front and the soft rear, but it works so well. My own tune was less Ride Height at the front than the rear, and stiffer rear, softer front to put weight on the front under brakes.

Your tune blew mine out of the water. I'm especially impressed by the sweetness of corner entry under braking. It totally eliminates the understeer I felt before. The car feels compliant and predictable, it really holds its line. I'm going to really struggle to find any improvement.

If you're feeling generous, I'd love to have a Lion's Den setup for an Elise to play with.

Big respect to you. I've just applied your 512BB settings and can already tell that they're going to get me podiums in 600PPs.

Cheers

FWD is a funny one. I have my own theories on it because I haven't really looked up official facts, but I do know what works and what doesn't. Nice you like my tune. So which Elise and what PP would you like that for?
 
Hi there,

Was never a fan of FWD until this iteration of GT, but now thanks to your tuning I'm being won over. I'm seeing lots of Integras out there which I couldn't necessarily stay with before, but with your settings yesterday very few got away from me. In fact the only guy that was handing me my arse on a plate was an Italian guy in a Golf. A real gent he was too. Wish I could remember his PSN.

Anyway, back to the Elise - I guess that with the tyre restrictions now imposed these babies are really going to come into their own.

I'd be really chuffed to have your thoughts on the standard Elise for the 500PP. I'm getting awesome corner speed with my current setup, but I know there's more to be found with a better brain than mine!

Haven't come across you on track yet, hope to do so soon.

Cheers
 
In fact the only guy that was handing me my arse on a plate was an Italian guy in a Golf. A real gent he was too. Wish I could remember his PSN.
I think I raced him too, a red Golf GTI right? Forgot his PSN as well. :P
 
/offtopic/
I absolutely love the G25, especially the brake/gas paddles, they're very sturdy.
The only thing I really miss is the 4 way switch button thingy as the wheel only has 2 buttons so I cant flip between left right rear view to check who is next to me. My advise think very carefully before you invest in a G25.

AMG.

AMG..... you do realize that you can indeed assign left and right look to the left and right buttons on the face of the G25 don't you???? It's in the steering wheel configuration menu under the options section on the my page of GT5P.
 
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.... you can indeed assign left and right look to the left and right buttons on the face of the G25 don't you????

I do, :) but that still leaves me with 1 button short :ill:.
The fixed 'rear view' mirror whilst driving in bumper view doesnt give me a good enough insight.

AMG.
 
NL, my Italian chap was in a white Golf. Think I've got his PSN written down at home.

Forgive me if this is out of line, but on the subject of drivers I've got to give you a heads up about a German guy whose PSN I'm pretty sure is Lurchmann, or something like that. I seem to have come up against him a few times in the past week, and he's a real bully. I don't mind swapping paint if there's respect, but this guy has none. He's a 'get to the front at all costs' driver. Glad to say myself and the Italian Golf gave him what for yesterday before calling it a night.
 
I don't want this to sound like a put down or anything but calling out crap online drivers is a bit like pissing in the ocean. Check out the blacklist thread if you don't believe me.
 
OK, as I'm not sure what I'm doing with regards to new 600 PP cars yet, I'll be releasing a new Lotus Elise 111R/Tuned tuned for 750 PP. It is a blast to drive, and is competitive. Strangely the punters stopped using this car, but apart from top end and outright acceleration it's still the best at everything else, and now I've made it better- controllable and fun.:)
 
The adjustment to S2s isn't as hard as it seems, i found the winning formula so to speak and all my cars have taken similar steps to fix the oversteer alot without inducing understeer.
I'm sure you experienced tuners can figure it out.
 
TLD Renault Clio/Tuned​
(297kw) (421Nm) (909kg) (699 PP) (Pro/Standard Physics)​

tunesheet_clioTuned.jpg


Performance:

Power: +13
Weight: 85%
Tyres: R3
Downforce: 5/15

Settings:

Suspension:
Ride Height: -15/-12
Spring Rates: 3/8
Damper: 5/6
Toe: -0.10/-0.05
Camber: 1.2/0.6

Brake Balance: 1/3

Max Turn Angle: 45

All driving aids are up to driver, tuned with all aids off except ABS on 1

Gear Ratios:
1st: 2.712
2nd: 1.716
3rd: 1.344
4th: 1.090
5th: 0.909
6th: 0.781
Final: 4.206

Description: This tune might be obsolete now, or maybe the settings will still work well with the new restrictions, just lenghten the gears and increase the power. Still, for those interested in the realms of possibility this is a car for you. This would have easily beaten my NSX in lap times by a whole second. Even though the handling wasn't up to par with the NSX I feel, it was more stable, still handled great and had the straight line advantage. Like the Corvette/Tuned, it is the best all rounder, even excelling at everything to be excelled at. Good at everything. Try this tune just for the hell of it. I'm sure we'll be able to use it again some day.
 
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I've actually used a number of the TLD tunes, and found them all to be an improvement over standard. I typically have difficulty with FR cars, as I have a heavy throttle (thumb), as it were. I can only imagine it would be easier to control the throttle with a wheel/pedal setup, but I digress.

So, limiting this review to the 350z, I drove the car exclusively in the 600PP Suzuka races, and had some good success, notably when there weren't any well-driven Clio's running around. The standard 350z is a fairly well sorted car in its own right, only lacking in umph, in my opinion.

The TLD tune takes an already fine car and allows it to exceed itself. Gearing is spot on, allowing aggressive throttle application with maximum grip. When the tail does step out, it results in beautiful, easily modulated powerslides if that's your preference, or simply adjust and bring the tail right back in line, no drama, no fuss, whatever's your pleasure, sir. TLD has taken a car that may typically be a backmarker against the numerous vehicles that are both lighter and faster, and made it competitive by making it more than the sum of its parts. Excellent work, in my opinion.

I envy Holden his seeming intuitive knowledge of gearing, specifically, I couldn't tune a car to save my life, and often use his gearing choices as a sort of "Tuning Bible", never straying from his obviously tried and true settings. Given my propensity for losing my rear end (no pun intended), I'm appreciative of having him as a resource. I suggest we treat him well, and give him all the kudos he deserves.

I've driven several other TLD tunes, including the Amuse Stook, Z06, Jag, Ferrari 512, M3, and a few others, and found them universally more driveable and faster than their stock counterparts. I hesitate to give most of these cars my review because of my aforementioned inability to modulate the throttle in anything more than an "on/off" position.

Thank you TLD, and keep them coming, you have my enthusiastic support!
 
I've actually used a number of the TLD tunes, and found them all to be an improvement over standard. I typically have difficulty with FR cars, as I have a heavy throttle (thumb), as it were. I can only imagine it would be easier to control the throttle with a wheel/pedal setup, but I digress.

So, limiting this review to the 350z, I drove the car exclusively in the 600PP Suzuka races, and had some good success, notably when there weren't any well-driven Clio's running around. The standard 350z is a fairly well sorted car in its own right, only lacking in umph, in my opinion.

The TLD tune takes an already fine car and allows it to exceed itself. Gearing is spot on, allowing aggressive throttle application with maximum grip. When the tail does step out, it results in beautiful, easily modulated powerslides if that's your preference, or simply adjust and bring the tail right back in line, no drama, no fuss, whatever's your pleasure, sir. TLD has taken a car that may typically be a backmarker against the numerous vehicles that are both lighter and faster, and made it competitive by making it more than the sum of its parts. Excellent work, in my opinion.

I envy Holden his seeming intuitive knowledge of gearing, specifically, I couldn't tune a car to save my life, and often use his gearing choices as a sort of "Tuning Bible", never straying from his obviously tried and true settings. Given my propensity for losing my rear end (no pun intended), I'm appreciative of having him as a resource. I suggest we treat him well, and give him all the kudos he deserves.

I've driven several other TLD tunes, including the Amuse Stook, Z06, Jag, Ferrari 512, M3, and a few others, and found them universally more driveable and faster than their stock counterparts. I hesitate to give most of these cars my review because of my aforementioned inability to modulate the throttle in anything more than an "on/off" position.

Thank you TLD, and keep them coming, you have my enthusiastic support!

Thanks for the review and support.👍 If you're worried about your heavy throttle application, you could try what I do and use L2 and R2 for braking and accelerating, makes it easier IMO. We'll talk by PM what car you'd like.



Edit: Wow, only one reply in an entire day. The new events really have killed GT5:P. PD you domb idiotas, what have you done? Well, here is the TLD Garage Showdown Viper. Get practising, let's win this one.:dopey:
 
TLD Dodge Viper SRT 10​
(336kw) (696Nm) (1549kg) (600 PP) (Pro Physics)

tunesheet_viperSRTStock.jpg


Performance:

Power: -11
Weight: 99%
Tyres: S2

Settings:

Suspension:
Ride Height: -8/-5
Spring Rates: 7/4
Dampers: 6/4
Toe: -0.15/-0.10
Camber: 1.8/1.1

Brake Balance: 1/3

Max Turn Angle: 40

All driving aids are up to driver, tuned with all aids off except ABS on 1

Gear Ratios:
1st: 2.850
2nd: 1.588
3rd: 1.180
4th: 0.909
5th: 0.721
6th: 0.596
Final: 3.835

Description: Here she is, the TLD Dodge Viper SRT 10. Tuned for the Garage Showdown 2, this beast is no slouch, able to keep pace with the F430s that now adorn the 600 PP tracks. The Snakeskin Green Viper pictured above is actually the show version. The track version is Copperhead Orange with White Stripes. If times change though, this car may get upgrades to race tyres and 650 PP, but that would be the dream. Let's take this Showdown home loyal drivers of TLD!
 
Looks nice! 👍 Like the tuned Viper, my setup is completely different. Curious which one will work better. Still doing some tests, hope to release it over the weekend. :)
 
Looks nice! 👍 Like the tuned Viper, my setup is completely different. Curious which one will work better. Still doing some tests, hope to release it over the weekend. :)

I better beat you this time.:P

Will give this one a try mate thanks.
Still using you're NSX tune with reasonable success...although she's a tricky beast to control now:nervous:

Hah hah, I bet it's imposible to control. This may be the only tune I release for this lot of 600 PP events. Hopefully new events will come swiftly and we can drive some fun cars again.
 
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