Most obedient and disobedient cars

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Obedient cars: RUF Yellowbird, Ferrari 512BB, Caterham 7 Fireblade, Lancia Stratos

Disobedient cars: Anything front wheel drive


The trick with driving the agile rear wheel drive cars is, don't just react to a small slide, create one. ;) Tell the car who is boss. Driving any of these cars fast with a slight 4 wheel drift is one of the most enjoyable experiences in the game for me. :D
 
Got two more.

Obedient: Volkswagen Samba Bus. No understeer, only a teensy bit of oversteer, and quite fast, once you get the revs up (lots of turbo lag).

Disobedient: Bugatti Veyron 16.4. Just because it can go 270+ MPH doesn't mean it's a good idea. This thing has tons of understeer, and even 10/10 brakes can't slow it down fast enough. If you can find a good tune for it, it's at least drivable. God help you if you come across any bends in the road, though.

You do realize that setting brakes to 10:10 doesn't increase the power of the brakes right? All it does is set the F/R brake ratio to 10:10, which is the same as 1:1.
 
A couple more! I just tried these in the seasonals.

Obidient: Chevrolet Corvette '69. It feels like if it's riding on Sport Hards when on Comfort Softs. Very light and precise steering despite being an old American car. Neutral when driven with care, this car flies around the track so smoothly, killing its rivals (of the same class) like no other. The only down side is the sudden oversteer under heavy braking, which of course can be easily avoided by modulating the brakes carefully. This doesn't happen if you use ABS, which is a crime with a car of this type.

Disobedient: Mercedes Benz 300SL. This legendary machine is really fast for its age, but it simply doesn't respond on turns. It almost feels like if it's riding on marshmallows. Exagerated understeer followed by relentless oversteer even in third gear. The right choice for this car is Comfort Mediums or Softs, but to be honest, this car doesn't respond if not fitted with at least Sport Hards even with only 250HP. But honestly, this car is impossible not to love. Such a beauty.
 
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are you completely insane.that car want to kill you.thats why it slide

Probably. :D

Seriously though, if the car has a tendency to oversteer, you can use that to your advantage. The Yellowbird and the Stratos are probably the most nimble and agile cars in the game, but at the cost of nightmarish unforgiveness if you make a mistake. It kind of comes with the territory. It also makes things less boring, as a bonus. :D


In contrast, it is much harder to get a FF car to go where you want it to. You're at the mercy of the tires, essentially.
 
Obedient car: Spoon Integra Type R (DC2) '99 tournament winner right here

Disobedient car: Nissan GT-R Black edition '12 handles fine its just the braking no matter how light I press the brakes they all seem to lock up
 
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You do realize that setting brakes to 10:10 doesn't increase the power of the brakes right? All it does is set the F/R brake ratio to 10:10, which is the same as 1:1.

I do after reading this. :irked:

Brake balance affects the brake force applied at any given pressure increment/travel applied using the input device ( buttons or pedal ) and the balance between front and rear wheels. Total number of the brake balance determines how much pressure ( how much the red bar is filled ) until the tire will lock up - only without ABS ( this is where most sees it as sensitivity ), and the distribution determines the balance of brake applied to each wheel within the total BB value.

Drivers who uses ABS will have a hard time to feel the difference of total brake balance value as the assist will mask the driver from the actual brake force used, eg :no ABS BB at 9/7 = 16 - more than 55% bar filled - tire lock up likely to happen; 5/3 = 8 - more than 85% bar filled - tire will start to exhibit lock up - these were from a test with a FR car using comfort medium in a straight braking and no ABS and of course the speed of travel have a huge effect as well. I can brake harder at higher speed - above 200km/h generally, the less speed the more prone the tires to lock up.

To make it even clearer, drive with ABS at SSRX - use the 1000m distance marker as brake point, use comfort medium or sports hard, 0/0, 5/5, 10/10 BB brake from 250km/h, no gear changes full brake until stop, notice how long it takes to stop, there should noticeable distance differences in braking. ABS is used to get a consistent result.

I did a simple average test of 3 times of each BB.
Full brake force with ABS in a Corvette C5'04 premium with comfort medium, stock at 250km/h 1000m marker in 6th gear until full stop :

0/0 stops at close to 1300m marker
5/5 stops at about halfway to 1300m marker
10/10 stops just over 1200m marker

Another easy test is to get an FR car with big torque, I recommend Corvette premium, fit comfort medium tires, set BB 10/0, disable ABS - a must. Do a burnout - holding the brake a certain level - while spinning the rear tires, then change the BB on the fly with RA adjustment, put more at the rear until you can't do burnout.
Burnout test - same car- Corvette C5'04 premium, stock, comfort medium,no ABS, 10/0 BB

Hold the brakes at 80%, rev it up in 1st gear, release the brake for a split second the reapply with 80% brake pressure - red bar filled. While in burnout, open up RA menu, increase rear brake balance one at a time, the rev will drop gradually with each increase from 3 of rear brake force, and when it reach 5,it will drop the rev completely and ended the burnout.

What do this mean ? The way I see this is that brake balance also affect the maximum brake force applied, by adding more at the rear, the brake overpowers the driven wheel's torque.
For some reason, with ABS, doing a burnout is impossible to do, the car will simply lose power when the brake applied.

That is why even without ABS, I can still brake as deep as another driver with ABS - at the same location, with the same car and tune. I usually set my BB as high as 8/6 or 9/7, which is quite a bite and it eats away the speed so quick as long as I can maintain optimum brake force before the tires give up.
 
I know that the Amuse S2000 Street Version takes one of the biggest prizes for me.

Most of the time, it doesn't go straight. But because it's an S2000, you probably don't plan on it doing so anyway, so it does so very easily. Of course, if you do actually want to go straight, an Opera S2k does the job superbly, but that can also do some great slide jobs.

I agree with on that s2000. Something is seriously wrong.
 
Ahh, I just remembered that some cars block the front tyres when pulling the handbrake. That's even weirder.

That is something that I have to see to believe. The only car that should do that like in real life is the Citroen Xantia V6 Exclusive.
 
(One of) the most obedient: Monaro, just like BMW's M3 CSL, does what it should.

disobedient: Countach, Yellowbird or F40... but this is what makes them unique and charming.

p.s. put a tennisball cut in half under the clutch when in a Countach and steering aid to max. (G27) for more realistic feel.
 
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A fully tuned cobra is like a 600 pound gorilla in ballet shoes... on ice

It's not that bad, so long as you aren't 100%, 100% of the time. If that's the case, you're making it harder than it has to be.
 
Obedient: NSX-R Prototype Road Car

Disobedient: McLaren F1

I've given the F1 a few goes now with nothing approaching consistency as a result.
 
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Obedient: NSX-R Prototype Road Car

Disobedient: McLaren F1

I've given the F1 a few goes now with nothing approaching consistency as a result.

The mclaren, to me,is almost undriveable
 
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Obedient: Renault 5 turbo, slips through turns but is steady out, very fun, even if you're an awful driver such as I am

Disobedient: Shelby Cobra without silly aids, I have no finesse and it makes me pay dearly every time
 
Obedient: Mine's Lancer Evo

Disobedient: Lamborghini Murcielago (you can't see it but I'm shaking my fist at the Grand Tour special event)
 
Obedient: My Beloved DeLorean because i can chuck it around the track and it will get me there as if i was traveling through time :P (but BTTF jokes aside its a really good car)

Disobedient: Lamborgini Garlardo : it understeers then once u begin turning it oversteers, and the same wheels that cause the understeer don't allow you to correct the oversteer. getting this car sideways is like trying to drift a horse :/
 
Obedient: AMG 190E 2.5 Touring Car '92 (and it's stock version as well), this car just listens to what I want it too do without question.

Disobedient: RUF Yellowbird, what else? Though it is a good drift car for me :)
 
Obedient: Misubishi 3000GT/GTO MR '96.

Despite being a land yacht, this grips the road very well when stock or with minimal horsepower upgrades. Fully tuned, it does require a bit of practice and a good setup.

Disobedient: Lamborghini Murcielago (both versions.)
 
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