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This verbiage is confusing to me. How did the white line to the right of pit straight being ignored become the white line on the left after the 1st chicane out of bounds?
I'm picturing the white line on the left that runs parallel to the high wall.(which is in bounds on the forward circuit )

Rednose has come to the correct conclusion. If a section is not listed as an exception, the original rule of white line or rumble strip applies. In this case, the line after the first chicane is considered the track boundary on the reverse version but that line is to be ignored on the forward version. It's simpler if you look at it as two different tracks and don't compare the two.
 
Got it. So when starting a lap and taking Turn 1/2 chicane, you can't go all the wide to the wall where the road banks up a little. Gotta keep two tires on the right side of that white line. Yes?
 
Well @JamCar0ne , that settles that!:O

Rednose has come to the correct conclusion. If a section is not listed as an exception, the original rule of white line or rumble strip applies. In this case, the line after the first chicane is considered the track boundary on the reverse version but that line is to be ignored on the forward version. It's simpler if you look at it as two different tracks and don't compare the two.

You were right! :ouch:

Keeping her in-bounds; simply was a matter of adjustment to the entry. :sly:
Still got 42's:cheers:
 
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Tuesday night myself and some AutoX buddies of mine decided to go do some go kart racing. The place had a local special going on so we capitalized on it ($40 race all you want from 6pm to close). Beginning of the night we started slow not getting good times but that quickly changed when we all are running fast laps within tenths of each other. Here is a couple videos from that night.


 
Tuesday night myself and some AutoX buddies of mine decided to go do some go kart racing. The place had a local special going on so we capitalized on it ($40 race all you want from 6pm to close). Beginning of the night we started slow not getting good times but that quickly changed when we all are running fast laps within tenths of each other. Here is a couple videos from that night.

Nice track! Lots of space. The place I go locally is quite small, but still fun, just can't really "race". But... that's what the outdoor track is for I suppose. :)
 
Yeah that had potential but quickly became more trouble that it was worth! :banghead: I have to admit though the group was was extremely patient considering the circumstances! :lol:

We were all enjoying the comedy value of the interaction. It would have raised a few eyebrows if you had posted the reply before he posted the request! :lol:
 
One sec guys, I gotta grab a bat...
Ok, so, if there is a wall there, why use the white line as the boundary? I would get it if it was grasslands before said wall, but with literally only a car spans worth of pavement, why not just use the wall as the boundary, its not like anyone is going to be crossing that. Doubly I ask since you have the same circumstance with the pit wall line, where the line is ignored in favor for the wall. The rumble strip on the left coming of the turn 3 comes off the wall and not the white line as well.
 
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One sec guys, I gotta grab a bat...
Ok, so, if there is a wall there, why use the white line as the boundary? I would get it if it was grasslands before said wall, but with literally only a car spans worth of pavement, why not just use the wall as the boundary, its not like anyone is going to be crossing that. Doubly I ask since you have the same circumstance with the pit wall line, where the line is ignored in favor for the wall. The rumble strip on the left coming of the turn 3 comes off the wall and not the white line as well.

Consistency and simplicity?
 
Nice track! Lots of space. The place I go locally is quite small, but still fun, just can't really "race". But... that's what the outdoor track is for I suppose. :)
We were trying to be as clean as possible but sometimes s**t happens. Apparently the very fast times were in the 22sec range, we are hitting mid to low 24s consistently.
 
Consistency and simplicity?
That is kinda my point. It would be more consistent with the pit lane wall ruling and it would be simpler as I have yet to see a car get four wheels, let alone two wheels on the other side of that wall, thus another area the stewards do not have to worry about policing.
 
Consistency and simplicity?

Consistency and simplicity would suggest that the lines in question in the reverse track be treated the same as the way they are in the forward track.

But whatever, the boundary rules are set and as you can be sure there will be a number of drivers who will not have familiarised themselves with the exceptions, or lack thereof, it will be up to all of us and, particularly, the division hosts on Sunday night to spread the word to ensure everyone is aware of the line in question. From a driving point of view, it's not difficult to stay within that boundary.

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Update: The Fireblade has been demoted to 12 laps

That pleases me. I was having a run of bad luck on the last lap of the 13 lap races! :lol:
 
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One sec guys, I gotta grab a bat...
Ok, so, if there is a wall there, why use the white line as the boundary? I would get it if it was grasslands before said wall, but with literally only a car spans worth of pavement, why not just use the wall as the boundary, its not like anyone is going to be crossing that. Doubly I ask since you have the same circumstance with the pit wall line, where the line is ignored in favor for the wall. The rumble strip on the left coming of the turn 3 comes off the wall and not the white line as well.

At the spot in question, the white line is the boundary due to the fact that the "lane" outside the white line ends before the turn in point. This is the same situation that exists down the front straight at Deep Forest and the white line serves as the boundary there as well. As far as ease for the stewards. It's easier to enforce that you're outside the line and any contact at the end of the straight would be on the driver outside the line instead of trying to determine who is at fault when a funnel is created at the end of the straight and there is contact.

Like turnupdaheat said, it's not hard to stay in bounds. If driver's don't bother to familiarize themselves with the course boundaries then it's up to the hosts to remind and other drivers to report. Ignorance is not an excuse.
 
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At the spot in question, the white line is the boundary due to the fact that the "lane" outside the white line ends before the turn in point. This is the same situation that exists down the front straight at Deep Forest and the white line serves as the boundary there as well. As far as ease for the stewards. It's easier to enforce that you're outside the line and any contact at the end of the straight would be on the driver outside the line instead of trying to determine who is at fault when a funnel is created at the end of the straight and there is contact.

Like turnupdaheat said, it's not hard to stay in bounds. If driver's don't bother to familiarize themselves with the course boundaries then it's up to the hosts to remind and other drivers to report. Ignorance is not an excuse.
Not that I fault the logic, but I find a funneling in that area but be highly unlikely to occur. Given the length of the "straight" before turn 3, the size of the corner and the natural slope of the road coming off the wall, I think most people would naturally gravitate away and to the right of the white line before the next turn. Further, funneling can still be an issue. Coming out of turn two and onto the small straight, you can run two tires over the line and two on the line, and if a couple of cars stack up to the right of that car, they are still funneled in regardless, yet still considered on track. If funneling were to occur, it can still happen regardless. The only help I can see it giving the stewards an easy out.
 
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