I've never compared FC to any PC games because (as a longtime Mac user) I haven't had the opportunity (yet) to try any decent PC sims. I find it pretty easy to believe that the best PC sims would be equal or better than FC in most categories, including FFB. The primary reason to play FC as well as GT5P is the greater variety of tracks it offers - clearly this is not factor when compared to PC sims. I think FC is a much stranger beast than GT5P. It seems to me that the GT series has always been primarily about "collecting" & driving a large variety & quantity of production cars - cars rendered with more care & attention to detail than any other game, console or PC. I don't think any PC game will ever rival GT in this regard, so GT will always have its market niche. FC, on the other hand, is an oddly arcade-looking game that has surprisingly deep & complex physics - a combination that I can see alienating both arcade & sim racers. I've always seen FC as a game filling a gap in the PS3 racing line-up while we wait for GT5 (this is assuming that PD finally fulfills expectations about damage, decent AI, weather, full on-line functionality etc.). The game that fascinates me is SHIFT - is it possible that it will be like FC with better graphics (& the Nordschliefe) or will it turn out to be another GRiD?