10 Reasons Why We Will See GT5's Sequel Next Summer

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by Earth, Jul 24, 2012.

  1. Samus

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    It would satisfy me if they got it right and I'm one of the biggest GT5 critics here.

    PS Weather on all tracks is nothing to do power, only one track is loaded at a time so if they can do weather and time on the ring and La Sarthe there is no reason they can't on all tracks, technologically. It's just a time thing.
     
  2. RandomCarGuy17

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    Well, if you're right and GT6 is released in the summer next year, then this is what I expect from it:
    - Similar to GT5, but with better graphical details.
    - Physics are slightly improved
    - Better online system, less laggy.
    - Over 1,000 cars like in GT5, but mostly prenium cars this time as well as some more recent cars added to the game.
    - Same tracks as in GT5, but with at least 20 new tracks.
    - Some classic GT tracks return such as SSR11, Red Rock Valley, Seattle(all variants), & Grindlewald.
    - Day to night & weather cycles for most of the courses.
     
  3. Zuku

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    If PD can't put out much more than what they did from GT5 then they've failed as a company. Like SimonK said maybe in the graphics department they can't do much more that's fine, but adding stuff like tracks converting existing cars to premiums, and a few other things come on man. What that really tells me is PD is lazy is all we already know they need to catch up on the times adding more employees or what not.
     
  4. ch3ng

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    Haha :D No.

    This should be possible with the PS3. They have a Day-/Night cycle on a few tracks and i don't see that they can't do it on all tracks with the PS3. Of course weather and the cycle would look far more impressive on the PS4.
    I think the rain is bad in GT.

    I agree with you on the car on track and physics statement.

    This. I think the change are 50/50. Both have advantage and disadvantage. But the biggest problem for a PS3 GT6 release is the end of the cycle, because they needed to much time with GT5 and know the time runs out.

    We have many rumours,Leaks, Next Gen announcements like games or engines and some statements that the Next Gen will arrive in 2013/2014.

    PD don't have much time to release a GT6 for PS3 and support it with DLC.

    That is Sony's fault. We should blame them, because they don't spend enough money on their top franchise or not smart enough. Secondly they don't gave them enough time.

    3. They don't increase the staff enough. I think they did it a few months ago. I don't know.

    4. A developer with a 2.000.000-5.000.000 budget can get some GT3 cars and Sony can't. OK the 4. was more a personal request, because i can't understand why we have 800 standard cars and no GT premium car. I know you can say the Nissan GTR from the first DLC is a GT car.

    PD have passion and are a very talented team, but they are not enough people anymore for the targets Sony have.
     
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  5. bzking23

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    when gt4 came out it was a year before the ps3 went on sale, it was widely played and is still played to this day. why cant gt6 do the same? at the most we'll have to wait until 2014 to get the game, if its releaesed for the ps4 their hardware and tech will have to be re-written and take two extra years, thus bringing us back to a 6 year wait at 2016.
     
  6. IceMan PJN

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    This is sort of an odd argument.

    1) In terms of "isn't good enough" in regards to quality, it was largely lagging behind FM3 when GT5 was released in 2010. Then FM4 came out in 2011 and left GT5 in the dust altogether.

    2) If we're expecting GT5 to keep its several million owners occupied for several years, or in this case arguing that it won't be able to make it that long.... Most GT5 owners moved on by 2011. Even die-hard, long-time series fans have generally moved on by last year. A great example is a buddy that swears by the series, telling me the day before GT5's release about how much he was anticipating it and how he logged so many hundreds of hours apiece in the previous GT games and played each for years, and even he moved on from GT5 after a handful of months. I'd guestimate easily 90% of GT5 owners have already been ready for GT6 for quite some time now.
     
  7. Well, twenty-three months isn't a year.

    You have a good point and I think GT6 is coming for the PS3, but I don't think the rest of what you said is totally accurate. It looks too much like guesswork. Like, have to be re-written? Not necessarily. We need a programmer Admin./Mod. to clear these things up for us. :/


    I agree. Even with the 1,000 cars. I don't expect all of them to be current-DLC quality. Maybe even FM3 quality cars interior-wise and Premium exterior. All tracks should really have weather + time change. Let's hope to see Snow at the Ring.
     
  8. interpolfan11

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    Ummmm ok, this is a major stretch as far as "reasons" go. Shocking the media is the last of PD's worries.

    It's illogical for PD, but not illogical for Sony. The Vita isn't selling well and a GT game would help. (By the way, I am not in any way advocating for the development of GT on Vita. I'm just stating that it is a possibility, unfortunately)

    True.

    True, as long as the PS4 is released before or alongside the next-gen Xbox.

    True, although this is another a stretch as far as "reasons" go. GT6 on PS3 after the PS4's launch would never happen in a million years.

    True.

    True, and they've already said that they're doing this.

    This won't be a problem for Sony until PS5 IMO. Playing games on consoles is still much easier for the vast majority of consumers, and I don't see this changing until another ten years or so passes. And even then, the PC racing game market would need a very good GT/Forza imitation before it grew significantly.

    Can't agree more here. Most people can only afford to buy one console during the first half of a console generation, and when faced with the decision to buy Xbox/Forza or Playstation/GT, I can't help but feel that most would go with Xbox/Forza nowadays. I know I would, since I feel pretty bad about my decision to buy a PS3 exclusively for GT5.

    I sorta agree. Not having to work on physics will speed up the development process immensely.

    But the fact that it takes six months for them to render a premium car prevents me from feeling that "GT5 is easy to improve". Rather, GT6 will simply be easier to develop than GT5.


    BTW, I am one of the people who believes that GT6 is being developed for the PS3.
     
  9. brycepunk

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    "Can't agree more here. Most people can only afford to buy one console during the first half of a console generation, and when faced with the decision to buy Xbox/Forza or Playstation/GT, I can't help but feel that most would go with Xbox/Forza nowadays. I know I would, since I feel pretty bad about my decision to buy a PS3 exclusively for GT5."

    I feel the same way.
     
  10. Raggadish

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    If GT6 isn't presented at Gamescom in two weeks one can make som fair assumtions that GT6 is for PS4. Why Gamescom and not TGS? Well, the Europe is the best selling territory for the GT franchise and showing it at TGS wouldn't get as much attention by mainstream media in Europe and would be a hugh miss by Sony and PD.

    If there's no announcement regarding GT6 at Gamescom(or at TGS for that matter) there's too little lead-in time for the game to be released before PS4. There has never been a GT-game announced and then released within a 6-9 month (or even a year) timeframe. This coupled with the recent interview in which Kazunori said that they always aim for the newest technology, doesn't make it difficult to see that GT6 is bound for PS4.
     
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  11. Mad4missiles

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    Have you done the full install to your hd because it don't take two long for me.

    To the people that say gt5 is the worst gt are you serious Iv never played a gt as much as I have gt5 played it almost every day since the release can't say as much for the rest of the gt series
     
  12. Zuku

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    Maybe you can't, but a majority says it's the worse in the series, and for good reasons.

    One thing I always say about GT5 it didn't get the benefit that GT3 did on PS2 it was one of the first racing games anyone ever played on PS2 cause if I'm not mistaken the other racing games of that time either they had just gotten started, or they were just being ported over to the PS2 by the time GT3 released.

    In short GT3 had a leg up on the comp where GT5 did not whether it be arcade or sim racer.
     
  13. Samus

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    Yes, it's called an opinion buddy.
     
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    There are plenty of useless menus in GT5. He's right that in rfactor you are literally playing in seconds, not minutes. The comparison gets worse by adding more actions (finding the car, tuning, etc.).

    For example, I think one of the very best things GT6 could improve on is simply removing the gt auto menu as a whole.
     
  15. Samus

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    Indeed, they just need one simple button for those operations in the garage so they're done instantly. Not a whole sub menu that takes time to load followed by pointless animations and then a further loading screen to get back to the garage.
     
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    Basically what gt5 should have been then!
     
  17. mrkevans

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    Not so, the gt5 engine can be used for gt6 on the ps4, they don't need to create a whole new engine.
     
  18. CAMAROBOY69

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    There is no way GT6 will be out in the summer of 2013. This thread cant be serious. :lol:
     
  19. Earth

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    Playing racing games on consoles is easier for most consumers, yes. But PD stands to lose a good portion of that base if GT keeps sliding down a slope.

    If we wanted really good physics and not much else theres always been the PC sim titles for that. At the moment GT is still behind PC sims in terms of physics, advanced car setup, etc. If PD wants GT to go head to head with PC sims in those categories they will lose, badly.

    They need to focus on their bread and butter, customization of cars and fun. For the longest time, at least until GT5 came out, I trashed A-Spec races as unnecessary and pointless with the advancement of online racing. After GT5 was released I realized it was the Gran Turismo mode that made GT what it is, not online or anything else. Earning the cars in Gran Turismo mode and using that cash to upgrade them is what the GT games were all about and should always be about.

    With GT5 PD appeared to just copy paste from previous GT games and not add nothing new, in fact they probably cut more then they added. The short and tiny amount of A-Spec races felt like something better suited for a mobile Gran Turismo, for someone on the go and with little time to really enjoy themselves. It was such a disappointment. Earning the cars and unlocking the new races was not fun at all, it was all a big grind.

    Why didnt we get any new tuning options like tire pressure or caster? Why were almost all of the endurance races from previous GT titles? Why was the NASCAR championship something you could complete in an hour? Why were prototypes used at the Indy 500? Why are Le Mans prototypes at the Nurburgring 24 hours?

    GT5 was too much of the same combined with awful design decisions. Yes it has the best physics of the series so far and online. But thats not what the GT series is about. GT is about earning and collecting cars in GT mode. Its about customizing those cars with performance parts and racing modifications. GT needs to focus on improving those aspects of the game. Forza took GT's Formula and is doing what PD should have done with it...keep advancing it. PD's formula is stale. They need to add more to the table.
     
  20. Akmuq

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    If GT6 was for the PS4, it would be similar to GT5, probably a bit better, but not finished.

    GT6 needs to be on PS3 for it to be complete in my opinion. As for cars, stick all the duplicates in a trim menu that appears when buying a car. Make as many premiums as possible, drop the standard cars, making sure most of the 'must-drives' are premium.

    Make most of the road cars RM'able. Hell, allow them to have 2, 3 different race mods. Kaz has said he wanted FIA GT, why not make race mods for the GT-R, Ford GT, 458, MP4-12C, Aston's etc. to go with the Vette's? If they aren't going to get a new series maybe get all the SuperGT tracks and a few more NASCAR tracks? Although with the new V8 SuperCar being a Nissan there is a possibility for the Holden and Ford machines, especially with Bathurst coming to the game.

    Also, livery editor would be awesome, as well as Engine Swaps, which always has the possible-ity for fun cars, and some very good sleepers.

    Oh, and give the option for adjustable tyre wear, while the 40ish minute races on Race Hards are fun in most cars and the 1-stop/2-stop are almost equal, in some things it's stupidly fast wearing and, for LMP's, just no where near good enough.
     
  21. bzking23

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    true but PD is stationed at japan so unvailing it at Japan will be most likely. if not at TGS or Gamescom....:scared:
     
  22. diegorborges

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    Great quote man. Sums most of my feelings. Online is great... it really is, be able to play with friends, etc... but "GT Life" is the core of the game and its really weak on GT5... its the core of the game that should keep you busy for months, then you have your fleet of cars to compete and drive online too.

    For some weird reasons I feel now that GT5 was just a placeholder for GT6... on PS3. Because the next game will be what it was supposed to be...
     
  23. Zuku

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    That's exactly how I feel online play was great, but for the last 4 games of the series it never had online play, but it made up for that in the career mode or GT Life mode it had.

    GT5's version is a shell of anything that would be considered a career mode.

    When playing GT3 I remember it was an extremely long time to get a good car the first racer I remember getting I think was between the Spoon Sports S2000 and the Raybrig NSX(One of my fav not so much in GT5 though).
    Plus even being able to buy cars felt like a reward back then whenever you finally earned enough money.
     
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    Yep, the economy of the game is completelly flawed. It's old news, but this plus the fact that licenses aren't mandatory anymore simply helped to make A-spec kinda lifeless.

    I'm playing GT2 all over again on PSP. Damn, even with the ammount of races its hard to get a proper car... takes some time! GT3 was even harder. I miss this, the historical Gran Turismo "poor man beginning", fighting for the lead in a crap old Silvia or Civic, dreaming about better days when you can finally buy that LM spec car.
     
  25. Samus

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    I remember back in the day having GT2 and getting my license for the first endurance race at Trial Mountain. I remember entering it thinking "Wow, even if I finish 6th I'll get 20,000cr I think it was" then winning it to get the JGCT Supra and 150k. It still was a great battle throughout the A-Spec though, none of that was in GT5.
     
  26. Zuku

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    That's a perfect way to sum it all up "Poor man's beginning." No lie long ago when I was playing both GT4 and GT3 I really thought that GT would have a system like Midnight Club in that you had to progress to a certain point to have certain type of cars available.

    In fact I'd go so far to say I miss how GT3's arcade mode was maybe I'm mis-remembering, but I do remember E, D, C, B, A, and S class I believe it was maybe I'm just making that up. :confused:
     
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    Sort of like a Prolog Spec 2
     
  28. BROHAM

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    GT6 will release 2015

    Book it.
     
  29. gordogg24p

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    *in reference to bolded*

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    Drop the mic.
     
  30. Rich S

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    It seems impossible doesn't it......But GTA V and GT6 on the same year...Or within 6 mo of each other..... Makes me drool or even get turned on. :sly: