2005 Audi A6 ?... All Bangled up ?

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Its got that whole Nuvalari thing going in the front. Still not as gross as the 7 series though.
 
I like the back and I hate the front. Maybe it'll grow on me like the new BMWs have, but my initial thought after seeing it was "Eww".


-Mark
 
Originally posted by Mike Rotch
Its got that whole Nuvalari thing going in the front. Still not as gross as the 7 series though.
I saw the Nuvolari in evo and almost threw up. The last bastion of decent design is going down the tubes rapidly.

That grille is heinous; truly a crime against automobiles. Like an Edsel that's been widened with a speculum.
 
Holy ****.

The first justification for Bangle's work I've seen outside BMW.

Look at the sides. Convex at the shoulderline, then concave as you come down towards the side-skirts. Note the lack of traditional plastic/rubber side strips to visually divide the upper and lower half of the car. Pure, unadulterated '2004 5-Series design cue copy.

Chris Bangle must have been blushing when he saw these pics. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery; and when its Audi doing the imitating, theres a lot to be flattered about.


///M-Spec
 
Originally posted by ///M-Spec
Holy ****.

The first justification for Bangle's work I've seen outside BMW.

Look at the sides. Convex at the shoulderline, then concave as you come down towards the side-skirts. Note the lack of traditional plastic/rubber side strips to visually divide the upper and lower half of the car. Pure, unadulterated '2004 5-Series design cue copy.

Chris Bangle must have been blushing when he saw these pics. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery; and when its Audi doing the imitating, theres a lot to be flattered about.


///M-Spec

I think you must have clicked on another link ///M-Spec.

That A6 looks absolutely nothing like a 5 series BMW. It lacks his pug-ugly face, and his clumsy boot layering. It also lacks the fussiness, the lines around the sills that he requires, and also the rippling on the wing mirrors that's needed to tidy up an airflow trashed by the "flame surfaces".

This is also a car that has its design roots in the 1991 Audi Avus - at a time when Bangle was making a sow's ear out of the Fiat Coupe.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
I think you must have clicked on another link ///M-Spec.

That A6 looks absolutely nothing like a 5 series BMW. It lacks his pug-ugly face, and his clumsy boot layering. It also lacks the fussiness, the lines around the sills that he requires, and also the rippling on the wing mirrors that's needed to tidy up an airflow trashed by the "flame surfaces".


Not at all, Gils. I'm talking about one styling cue, not the entire car. Take a closer look at the doors..

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Now, compare them to the 5.



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Notice that in both cars, the traditional plastic bumper that runs along the sides from bumper to bumper, is missing. This styling cue is ubiquitous and appears on almost every car made in the last 3 decades. It is there to break up the upper half and lower half of the car visually, so tall cars don't look so slab sided.

Bangle decided to eliminate this time-honoured element because the convex/concave styling of the doors on the new 7 and 5 performs the same function, but much more elgantly. The door bows out at the top, then curves inward as you go lower, then bows out again when you reach the bottom of the door frame. This allows a single door panel element to show a light side and a dark side, implying complexity. Its part of his flame surface idea. Audi has adopted this exact approach on the new A6.

I'm not saying that the new A6 looks like the new 5. I'm saying Audi took a page from Bangle's design vocabulary (one of the best ones, actually). And, he should be flattered. Audis are very good looking cars.


///M-Spec
 
Originally posted by ///M-Spec
Audis are very good looking cars.
Correction: Audis were very good looking cars.
 
Originally posted by ///M-Spec
I'm not saying that the new A6 looks like the new 5. I'm saying Audi took a page from Bangle's design vocabulary (one of the best ones, actually). And, he should be flattered. Audis are very good looking cars.


///M-Spec

Fair enough. On that basis I'll agree with you! :)

However, all the other elements of the Audi's design are more appealing to me, and share little with other the key areas of Bangle design (notably the jewelling).
 
Originally posted by ///M-Spec
Bah. Yer all a buncha damn Luddites
Not at all, because I saw the 1995-2001 model years as a breath of fresh spring air compared to the, oh, 20 years of automotive design before that.

But the more I see of new design, the more convinced I am that the Neons are going to have to make it another 5 years and 100,000 miles.
 
I'm with M-Spec on the doors - that combined with the rear wheel well looks very 5ish.

With that said, I'm very optimistic about the new A6 - the present one was dated about two years ago, but it still occupies several top spots among my mid-luxury sedan favourites - I just hope they keep the price down with the next model.
 
Good to see they still can't get the Passat window line out of the current crop of Audis.

The design looks fine, except for that front end - I think it's the chrome outline that really overemphasises it. I know the current A6 front end is a bit bland (I keep mistaking them for A4s) but this is getting a bit silly.

It's close - I like the headlights.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Not at all, because I saw the 1995-2001 model years as a breath of fresh spring air compared to the, oh, 20 years of automotive design before that.

But the more I see of new design, the more convinced I am that the Neons are going to have to make it another 5 years and 100,000 miles.


Just wait till you see the E90 (2006 3/4-Series) :trouble:


///M-Spec
 
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