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Now that you mention it, I like the way Speak'n'Spell really accelerates through the last 4 levels, keeping the difficulty high.
It's like some twisted sketch.
Now that you mention it, I like the way Speak'n'Spell really accelerates through the last 4 levels, keeping the difficulty high.
The Audi R8 is okay to me. I just it doesn't feel Audish enough to me. That's why I like their iconic TT, it may not be fast but I think it represents Audi the best out all their models
a felt tip fairy draw a pretty shape and some donkey glued it to a Golf chassis?
Not at all. Try again.For being a wannabe porsche at a cut price?
Your lists of lap times shows why you are wrong. The 986 Boxster was faster around most any track than the S2000 and handled about as well (if not better), yet lo and behold no one preferred the Boxster to the S2000 then. Ditto with the Z4, though that stacked up against the S2000 much closer.The laptimes are there to show its not even all that fast these days. Half the hothatches on sale today are faster.
Did you just seriously imply that the lack of torque in the S2000 should somehow make its RWD drive train lighter than the FWD one in the Audi TT?70kgs is the weight of one person. And being FWD doesnt mean a car should be automatically light. Its not like the s200 itself requires heavy duty geartrain as it doesnt make much torque.
More irrelevant sidetracking!The TT is luxurious, the S2000 isnt, I wonder how much a TT would weigh if you removed all that sound deadening and heavy electric toys.
You posted a bunch of lap times and said "Lookie, the S2000 is wholly uncompetitive with everything in its class because it is slow around random tracks!"No Not really
Like you were going to vote for it anyways.So why exactly should I vote for it then? For being a great has been?
Which I said.It doesnt do anything the best, and it does imo get outstripped in most categories.
And what, pray tell, do you think it was famed for?Its one thing is is famed for it doesnt do best anymore.
The game has moved very far forward. Previously, the S2000 was a distant speck on the horizon. Now its competitors are roughly equal to it, being better in some places and worse in others; with no competitor being better in every aspect.Once again I have to say the car is trading on its reputation of the past, as you seemingly cant understand just how far the game as moved on.
gator of kanaIt's just that you would never expect Audi that makes luxurious cars to make a supercar
@ M-Spec: I stand corrected, but still refuse to acknowledge the idea that the S2000 is a out of date relic just because it is old. Whether or not the S2000 can outright win tests against everything it competes with like it used to is different from saying that it a dinosaur with no chance of coming near any of its competitors, which is what forza was contending. And then there is price...
But one note: The 350Z Roadster still sucks.
I don't outright disagree with you, the competition has gotten better, but on the same token, it doesn't exactly push the S2000 to the outside either. Its still competitive in performance and price (especially price against the Germans), which still makes it one helluva sweetheart for me.
Germans do what Germans do best... Make cars that are good all the way around. Thing is, when I'm buying a roadster, I'm prepared to make the sacrifices that the S2000 comes with.
Yes, I know I'm crazy.
Well, I hadn't really thought about it. They seem to be at the core of quite a few frontline children's learning devices, so I suppose they're pretty good.

I was changing the font and leaving the size because the awesome screen on my laptop was making it look larger than it actually was. Sorry all, for hurting your eyes, and thanks everyone for the heads up.Toronado... Firefox 3.0.1 doesn't like your font and renders it at 6.45 pts. or something, making it impossible to read. Any other Firefox users having this issue?
That's just my reaction because of how great the 350Z Coupe is. And the fact that you can land helicopters on the boot.Well I might be inclined to agree based on it's curb weight and compromised body structure. But it came in 2nd in that C/D comparo you posted, so it can't be all that bad. I've driven a couple Zs, but no Roadsters, so I can't comment on that. As an aside, the TT is the only other in this group I haven't driven.
For being a wannabe porsche at a cut price?
The laptimes are there to show its not even all that fast these days. Half the hothatches on sale today are faster.
70kgs is the weight of one person.
Hell, since the Audi R8 came out last year, many of its competitors (barring the 911) have moved forward as well.
MSN CarsWould we buy one?
Actually, yes. The S2000 - for all its flaws - has one quality so often engineered out of modern cars: character. It also challenges you to drive it properly and, with its new suspension set up, gets better the harder you push it - again rare qualities. The styling has aged well too and it remains one of the better looking roadsters on the market and, pound for pound, offers you some serious engineering for the money. But most people are more interested in image than mechanical purity and for them the S2000 is a rowdy, plasticky toy rather than a serious status symbol. It's their loss.
In the meantime, the genuine enthusiasts will go for cars like the S2000, and damn the practicality.
Well, if the willingness to sacrifice comfort and practicality is the rule by which 'true enthusiasts' are judged, then the only car we should be voting for is a Lotus 7.
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That is why I dislike the 'a true enthusiast would only choose this...' argument. It's all relative.
the S2000 is the one least bought on "image".
Of course, Honda is still struggling to establish itself as a premium brand. It's that very reason the new-and-quite-good Accord hasn't been nudged into the A4/C Class/3 Series fold. As Evo (I think, or it may have been TG) said, as accomplished as it is, it's still a Honda.
And in addition, the geriatric image still lingers. Thanks, messers Jazz and Civic.
@Forza - fair enough, you don't seem to think much of the car. But most of your arguements against it seem pretty weak, and you're not providing nearly enough evidence that the S2K isn't competitive, save for laptimes that mean next to nothing.
No, you buy a sports car for the excitement. And the S2000 provides this in spades - any review from 1999 right up until now will tell you this.
The 986 Boxster was faster around most any track than the S2000 and handled about as well (if not better), yet lo and behold no one preferred the Boxster to the S2000 then.
What do you mean premium?
honda and premium?
I would bunch honda as a sporty alternative to volvo, an alternative to saab, or alternative to mazda.
Whilst they still make cars like the s2000 and civic, they are hardly premium.
By premium, I mean towards the executive sector of the market, which is where they want to go with the new Accord and the Legend. The previous Accord was a pretty nice place to be, but the new model is leaps and bounds ahead of it. The cabin quality is right up there with the Germans, and the ride quality is even better. Honda would like the Accord to be considered a small executive car, rather than the family car it is now.
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interior doesnt look as good as you make out and i suppose you will have driven in the accord and all the german competitors to
interior doesnt look as good as you make out and i suppose you will have driven in the accord and all the german competitors to make such a bold statement.
What is going on!? Doesn't anybody like modern cars these days instead of hanging on to those obsolete cars of the 20th century, does anybody speak 21st here!?
i suppose you will have driven in the accord and all the german competitors to make such a bold statement.
1) Interior is objective, I wouldn't have expected you of all people to like it.
2) I haven't driven them all, but I'm going to trust the judgement of people who do it professionally. And I trust to disprove it, you yourself have driven them all.
so one guy says the accord ride quality is better than all the germans and all of a sudden it must be true and gospel?