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I just looked at their website and saw they had some job openings. I guess the HR department can't do product design?
Now, 10+ seconds difference, thats dangerous. The danger comes from closing speeds and overall differences in performance making it difficult to judge what the driver in front is going to do and where to brake. But 3-5 seconds difference? It wasn't a problem before, why should it be now?
I think its a little over-reactive when we are only talking a few seconds here, as I pointed out, he should know all about being a few seconds off the pace. It doesn't make it "dangerous" at all!
However, seeing Virgin's front wing falling off like that is a worry and I would agree if he was referring to their reliability - naturally he doesn't want more parts flying about!
But he is referring to their pace and being in the way for his flying laps....which is a little elitist to say the least. Traffic has always been a problem, with or without new teams there, so he has every right to complain, drivers always complain. But its not a "safety" concern.
Give the new teams a chance to get going before we start attacking them!
Now, 10+ seconds difference, thats dangerous. The danger comes from closing speeds and overall differences in performance making it difficult to judge what the driver in front is going to do and where to brake. But 3-5 seconds difference? It wasn't a problem before, why should it be now?
The only thing dangerous at Bahrain will be the Hispania cars, which have never been tested.
To me, it sounds like Massa's "Toe-ing the company line" in regards to the new teams. Not that surprising really, as Ferrari have been the most critical of how the entry process was handled...
To me, it sounds like Massa's "Toe-ing the company line" in regards to the new teams. Not that surprising really, as Ferrari have been the most critical of how the entry process was handled...
Elitism in F1!? coming from Ferrari!? What a surprise!jk. Fortunately for Virgin, Lotus, and HRT (although we don't know their competitiveness), the statements in this article are only pre-season words of criticism coming from a driver competing against them in the Championship...which means they don't hold much merit when it comes to their future performances. Those words only ruffle the feathers of those who let them get underneath their skin...that's all.
As usual it should be noted that we don't know the validity of this article, nor if those were the exact words Massa had to share with the media to begin with.
I know Ferrari are elitist, they always have been.
Massa however, has not. He was fairly respectful in times gone by, or at least I seem to remember him being. He doesn't need to follow the "company line", he doesn't need to say anything at all if he doesn't agree with Ferrari's comments. He could just say "I think they will struggle" when asked about them, thats not really being supportive of new entries but neither is it being arrogant like that other statement.
Maybe I had Massa all wrong, which is a shame, because he seemed a lot more likable. This just makes him sound no better than Hamilton - either he's letting his employers put words in his mouth or he's not the personality I thought.
And yes, naturally his words could have been minced. We shall see come Bahrain qualifying if backmarkers is one of his excuses![]()
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I also realise it doesn't mean anything about the new team's true performance, I never said it did?I just find Massa's exaggerated comments a bit odd coming from him.
Either way, angry Massa is certainly increasing the chances of a bit of fire in the Ferrari camp! Wonder when he'll step the wrong side of Alonso.
Yeah, I picked up on that. If Massa thinks he's going to have trouble getting past the backmarkers when he's out in front - especially since he thinks they'll be four seconds a lap slower when he only needs to be going one or two seconds faster to pass them - then he probably shouldn't be a racing driver.Is it just me, or does that sound a little elitist perhaps? Has he already forgotten his time with Sauber when he used to qualify almost 3 seconds off the fastest times?
Yeah, I picked up on that. If Massa thinks he's going to have trouble getting past the backmarkers when he's out in front - especially since he thinks they'll be four seconds a lap slower when he only needs to be going one or two seconds faster to pass them - then he probably shouldn't be a racing driver.
I doubt Ferrari could get away with changing their drivers' words in an interview; and if Massa is allowing that to happen, what does that say about his character?
Bahrain Qualifcation prediction: (assuming no problems for all teams and all manage a fast lap).
Positions 1-18 - Current teams.
19th: Trulli
20th: Kovalainen
21st: Glock
22nd: Di Grassi
23rd: Senna
24th: Chandhok
I'm not so sure. I don't think Dallara are fools. I have a feeling that car will spring a surprise this season.
I'm not so sure. I don't think Dallara are fools. I have a feeling that car will spring a surprise this season.
No, you can't put words into people's mouths without their consent, not even as an employer. It just doesn't work; people can find this out quickly. Even if they tried, all it takes is for a journalist to bring up the interview; Massa will either have to admit he doesn't know about it, or admit he endorses it.
I doubt Ferrari could get away with changing their drivers' words in an interview; and if Massa is allowing that to happen, what does that say about his character?
That doesn't hold much merit really. It would be naive to think that there is some automatic validation process after every controversial statement a driver or team makes, which determines the truth behind a particular statement in a publication.
What makes you all of a sudden so sure they are unable to "put words into people's mouths without their consent", when your comment before this clearly showed that you were unsure if they could get away with such a thing?
No, you can't put words into people's mouths without their consent, not even as an employer. It just doesn't work; people can find this out quickly. Even if they tried, all it takes is for a journalist to bring up the interview; Massa will either have to admit he doesn't know about it, or admit he endorses it.