2011 Formula 1 Gran Premio Santander d'Italia

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akmuq
No way am I getting Sky, BBC highlights for me, not too fussed about it either.
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I'm tempted into getting one of those satellite dishes that allows you to watch foreign TV channels. As far as I'm aware, it's completely legal (they were selling them at the local supermarket).

If I can get access to the live feed in any language and listen to BBC R5L, I may consider that instead.
 
Roo
There's two seperate DRS zones - the first is on the start/finish straight, with a detection point on the exit of Parabolica; the second is on the straight from the second Lesmo to the Ascari chicane, the detection point being between the two Lesmos.
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I was thinking maybe this two separate zones could open the oportunity for "teamwork slipstreaming", dont you think? Kind of Nascar stuff? Do you think it is possible? Do you think drivers would do it? Do you think they would know when in the race to stop cooperating and start fighing for position?

Providing they can run on the same pace and they dont keep fighting for position, its an oportunity to race for a really long time with your rear wing open. You just take turns on which driver is ahead.
 
RodrigoDLL
I was thinking maybe this two separate zones could open the oportunity for "teamwork slipstreaming", dont you think? Kind of Nascar stuff? Do you think it is possible? Do you think drivers would do it? Do you think they would know when in the race to stop cooperating and start fighing for position?

Providing they can run on the same pace and they dont keep fighting for position, its an oportunity to race for a really long time with your rear wing open. You just take turns on which driver is ahead.
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This idea floated around at the start of the season. If I'm not mistaken, it was one of the reasons for unlimited use of the DRS in practice and qualifying.

It could theoretically happen, and it's the kind of thing that happens a lot in Motorbike racing. Can't count how many times I've saw a battle for 2nd and 3rd place stop after they realized they should stop fighting and hunt down the person in 1st place. Even if they aren't teammates.

I can't imagine it happening too much this weekend. It will all come down to how many people find themselves 1 place behind/ahead of their teammates. Then it's a matter of sorting out the ones who don't trust each other. For example, I can't see someone like Webber going for it. It will probably happen at the back of the field though.
 
Seismica
Red Bull were pretty quick in the speedtraps at Spa
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True. However, the speed trap at Spa was located just after Eau Rouge. As opposed to the end of Kemmel straight. Their straight line speed has improved, though.

I'm predicting a Ferrari or McLaren win. I don't think the long straights of Monza favor the Red Bulls. But with the way this season has been going, I'll probably be proven wrong. Should be an interesting race.
 
Is it possible for Domenicali to not sound arrogant?

I really think Red Bull's success has more to do with just Newey, granted he is a huge part but it's not just him.

Anyways, excited about Monza, it's probably my favorite GP of the year.
 
Justin
Is it possible for Domenicali to not sound arrogant?

I really think Red Bull's success has more to do with just Newey, granted he is a huge part but it's not just him.

Anyways, excited about Monza, it's probably my favorite GP of the year.
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I think it's quite a lot to do with Newey but also to do with Vettel and some proper team management since after 2009 (apart from Turkey last year of course)
 
Are we going to get those lame Santander-shaped trophies again?
 
V10's yeah, sound oh pure sound...

I wonder what the prices are now...

Think Qualifying was 79 pound for 1st Variante Grandstand on the outside of the track... I think the 1st two cars out were Minardi's both had electrical failure ans stopped there... (I later was talking to a technician @ Heathrow airport early Oct, on his way to Suzuka (great 60 mins talk!), turns out the cameras placed on the car were sucking a little too much power...)

I think my race day tickets were 179 pounds for 2nd Variante grandstand (exchange rate suck at time too due to a certain event a few days before...).
 
Still on a nostalgic note, till the 90s there was a nice grandstand at the Lesmo 2, view and sound were superb. I think it was removed after 1994, for safety reasons, even though probably there was no real need to.
Rare 1992 footage:

 
Mercedes are handy in a straight line, slight chance of a podium and a very realistic chance of beating the Ferrari's! All comes down to their use of tyres...

And with DRS not expected to have the same impact, I have a feeling Red Bull will be under more pressure than before in qualifying:

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Rosberg
5. Button
6. Alonso
7. Schumacher
8. Massa

Of course I'll be wrong throw a Bruno Senna in the mix!

Race itself, Hamilton to lose out on strategy, Webber to struggle with tyres, Button to improve, Alonso to make steady progress:

1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Alonso
6. Schumacher
7. Rosberg
8. Massa

Of course I'll be wrong throw a Bruno Senna in the mix!...
 
Robin.
Gosh those are horrid, ruin half the season with an unimaginative lump of metal.
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Yeah, they look like badly drawn dog poop!

Also disappointed that those Hungarians "old gramma jars" trophies were replaced by ENI's dog (though a dog is of course still better than poop).
 
The China trophies were awesome:

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^Me and my family laughed at those trophies as they were being presented. They look as though they are made out of balsa wood, sprayed over by a can of paint from bunnings warehouse.
 
Concours Club's Captain Roh will be there in person; I 'm jealous :)

Should be a competitive race (fingers crossed :))

Who'll crash out this race?
 
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The Chinese GP ones were one of the best this year because they were huge, traditional and different. They wernt some poorly made pots either, they probably had the most care a money spent on them than any other.

The three-legged goblet design is reminiscent of the ceremonial cups used by ancient Chinese Emperors to toast statesmen and national heroes. The trophy was crafted using lazurite and cloisonné, and represents power, prestige, recognition and admiration. The UBS logo, racing chevrons and the Shanghai racecourse were skillfully blended into it. These elements are all combined to heighten the awareness of the annual race and the surrounding festivities in China.

RedworksShanghaiF1Trophy.ashx
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Robin.
 
YellowG1
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94304

Ferrari building an "unbeatable structure," whatever that means.
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Justin
Is it possible for Domenicali to not sound arrogant?
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Button said something interesting on the subject:

JB
Everyone starts building their cars earlier and earlier for the next season, and for us to say we're going to do a better job than anyone else - how can we judge that? Ferrari are saying they're going to rule Formula 1 for the next 300 years or something, but I don't know how quick we're going to be next year.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94332

I think Ferrari are a very good team, but the 2009 regulation changes played right into Newey's hands. Mclaren are keeping on-par with Ferrari as they have been doing for the past 15 years or so. It would be boring if Newey was at Mclaren or Ferrari as then there would only be two teams in contention rather than 3 (I do realise that Newey used to be at Mclaren btw). I don't think Ferrari will return to the form they had in their Schumacher glory years for at least another decade.

Justin
I really think Red Bull's success has more to do with just Newey, granted he is a huge part but it's not just him.
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The guys below him do most of the leg work and due to the way he heads the team, all ideas must follow his design philosophy and must be approved by him. I think it's the fact he was able to build a team around him, rather than having an individual role with limited responsibilities that has made him so successful so quickly at Red Bull. I think at the end of the day, as he calls the shots on all aspects aerodyanamic (And therefore everything else, as it has to fit into the dimensions he wants) the success can mostly be attributed to him. It's an uncompromising dictatorship, which works when the guy leading knows what he's doing.
 
I truly think Schumacher can pull off a podium if he qualifies well this weekend. We all saw what he did at the last high speed track (spa). All that let him down was his car failing in qualy. The Mercedes W02s are really fast in a straight line.
 
Just watching first practice, and it's interesting how much of the run-off after the last chicane these guys use. I'll have to start taking more of an advantage of that one from now on... ;)
 
What's up with Bruno Senna, almost 1 second behind Petrov? Maybe trying to understand where's the braking marker for 1st chicane with a full tank? :dopey:
 
Aha, Schumi is 3rd right now... P2

Rosberg is 20th...
 
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Come on Schumi... I have to see this guy on a podium again... I miss those days...
 
Hun200kmh
What's up with Bruno Senna, almost 1 second behind Petrov? Maybe trying to understand where's the braking marker for 1st chicane with a full tank? :dopey:
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ghskilla
Aha, Schumi is 3rd right now... P2

Rosberg is 20th...
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Practice is practice people. Everyone runs different fuel loads, different settings and try out different updates. Times do not even start to mean anything at all until P3 tomorrow.
 
axletramp
Just watching first practice, and it's interesting how much of the run-off after the last chicane these guys use. I'll have to start taking more of an advantage of that one from now on... ;)
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I think it's a sandtrap in GT5. :indiff:

Free Practice 2 times: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94364

Vettel and Hamilton about even (though Vettel surely has left something on the table for qualifying), as are Senna and Petrov. Schumacher third!
 
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