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I must admit, that was rather boring.
I hope the same won't be said about the race
I must admit, that was rather boring.
And Mark? What of him?
Simply put, what are teams now banned from doing under parc ferm conditions?
The teams are not allowed to make any changes with a computer that they plug in. The drivers are still allowed to change things from the steering wheel [however] the single ECU only supports fine adjustments from the steering wheel.
In very general terms, anything that can be done from the wheel is OK; anything they need to connect a computer for is not.
We are on the verge of issuing a note to the teams to give them a list of things that they can change when they connect their computers but that will be a very limited list.
And Mark? What of him?
Webber has really been such an unsung hero this season so far. People keep forgetting his good drives from far behind, the nice stack of podiums he's gotten this season so far, and he's the only person so far who has been able to steal pole from Vettel all season, albeit once. And I wouldn't be surprised to see him beat Vettel off the line tomorrow and maybe get his first win of 2011.
From this I don't think replacing steering wheels would do any good....the single ECU only supports fine adjustments from the steering wheel.
(Whiting)What is the goal of implementing this change?
A team can't have a base map in the ECU that is only good for a few laps. If you want to use it, you have to use it for the whole race.
I really don't see Webber deserving much credit for this year. Decimated in qualifying by his team mate - to praise him for being the only person to outqualify Seb is generous given that he's also the only person to be in the same car - and his great drives have to be expected given that he is in the fastest car and his qualifying results haven't really reflected this, so he's likely to move forward in the race. China was the first race of this Pirelli era where we've seen someone in the fastest car, on the optimum strategy coming from that back to obliterate most of the field. He even said himself when an interviewer raved about his performance, that it wasn't as if he had magically found some more speed or determination - he admitted it was just a product of his fresh option tyres.
Webber looks like a beaten man to me, he's settled into the inevitability of getting beaten by Seb. I like Mark despite everything i've said. I really hoped coming into 2009 that he'd defeat Seb and prove how good I thought he was, but it wasn't to be - he's just not on the same level as him.
The key part of the quote in my mind is;
From this I don't think replacing steering wheels would do any good.
Also later in the q&a is this.
(Whiting)
As has been pointed out to you earlier though, the FIA can and have missed potential loopholes or "interpretations" in the past. I don't see how that rule you refer to stops the teams from replacing steering wheels which contain different engine maps, it merely says the steering wheels themselves can only make slight adjustments.
So you could make slight adjustments to the engine maps on the steering wheel..but that doesn't necessarily mean the engine maps on both steering wheels are the same. Just that you can only make slight adjustments when using the wheel.
What Charlie Whiting wants to see and what actually happens are not always the same thing..hence the change in rules half way through the season.![]()
Meaning if a team did decide to be sneaky, the fia would know about. Changing the engine map from qualifying to race during a pit stop, according to the quotes from Whiting, would be something they don't want to allow.8.1.4 All on-car software versions must be registered with the FIA before use.
It depends on where the data for the engine map is located. I don't know if it is located in the wheel or more likely it is not. If it is not in the wheel, where the actual engine mapping data is, then that engine map would have to be loaded before the start of qualifying with both the race settings and the qualifying settings. According to the rulebook, Meaning if a team did decide to be sneaky, the fia would know about. Changing the engine map from qualifying to race during a pit stop, according to the quotes from Whiting, would be something they don't want to allow.
The day a change of steering wheel at a pitstop changes the mapping of an f1 engine will, be a sad day. These loopholes, that they try to get around, it frankly makes the mind boggle. Just race with what you have, dont try and be a smartass.
If your car, fundamently ( red bull or whoever) is better, then go for it, dont fleece the spectators, with the rule bending and arrogance.
Where have you been? F1 has always been about loopholes and bending rules. The FIA ban things, the teams try to find ways around it or make new advantages and "hide" it from the other teams, the FIA and spectators.
Its called trying to win.
Funnily enough, I think its part of what makes F1 so fascinating to follow. But I can see how the discussions of such complex technical regulations can get confusing and pretty tiresome for some people.
coverage in the States on Fox.
I has a sad.
Why all the hate for Valencia, I find the track quite fun to drive around.I'm not that mad about this weekend, Valencia isn't worth getting up for anyways. Germany and Britain on the other hand....
At least there is live timing on F1.com.👍
Why all the hate for Valencia, I find the track quite fun to drive around.
I'm not that mad about this weekend, Valencia isn't worth getting up for anyways. Germany and Britain on the other hand....
At least there is live timing on F1.com.👍
coverage in the States on Fox.
I has a sad.
It's at noon, so we don't have to wake up.
Are live streams any good to you?
Paul HemberyIt is more for the fans because otherwise we will see people not bothering in qualifying and that is a waste of time
I’ve made a suggestion to put to the Sporting Working Group to say that actually in those circumstances, you should be made to use your Q2 tyres in that situation, so there is no advantage from not setting a time.
Pirelli boss irritated by some drivers choosing not to run in Q3 in order to save a set of tyres for the race (according to James Allen's Blog).
He only has himself to blame. Of course if you provide tyres that dont last, people with pace in their pocket will try and run less to save new sets.
He is only providing the kind of tires that the FIA wanted.