2011 NASCAR Thread

[LightningRedSTI]

Kyle Busch, just when you thought he was starting to finally mature, he goes back to his old self.

How has he not learned anything from Kurt?

Lol, nope Kyle hasn't taken a left hook from Jimmy Spencer yet.

 

[RACECAR]

And now, the best news I've ever woken up to: Kyle Busch has been parked for the rest of the weekend.


Thank you NASCAR, you do still have some sense left 👍

 

[Müle]

lol @ KyBu fans continuing to try to defend him on Speed.com.

Hilarious.

 

[RACECAR]

lol @ KyBu fans continuing to try to defend him on Speed.com.

Hilarious.

When you say fans, do you just mean those two same people commenting in response?

 

[Müle]

When you say fans, do you just mean those two same people commenting in response?

Yeah, pretty much.

"Trolls" is also an acceptable term. Some guy called me a "jackass" last night. I lold.

 

[LightningRedSTI]

Bad thing is, he won't change. He thinks he's nascars superman, but we all know superman died unfortunately at the 500 in 2001. As for the SkidMark trolls, they're probably just as immature and uncomposed as their SHE-RO.

 

[RACECAR]

Bad thing is, he won't change. He thinks he's nascars superman, but we all know superman died unfortunately at the 500 in 2001.

Nascar needs to make Kyle aware as they did many other drivers who got out of line that they DON'T need him. He wants to continue racing here, he'll have to change or he'll have no job.

 

[Starfirebird]

And now, the best news I've ever woken up to: Kyle Busch has been parked for the rest of the weekend.


Thank you NASCAR, you do still have some sense left 👍

+1,000,000 👍

 

[Northstar]

This is Nascar's fix to get JR at the banquet!!

People are still doing that?

The guy hasn't won since '08, or made the Chase in '09 or '10, I doubt NASCAR is trying to fix it for him.

 

[Tornado]

Best news I've heard all week.

 

[BubbleBelly542]

Believe it or not, I was actually starting to respect Kyle. Not anymore.

 

[RVDNuT374]

Just when all the announcers say Kyle Busch is "new and improved", he pulls his brain out, sticks it up his ass, and pulls a stunt that cost Ron Hornaday a chance at winning the championship. 👎 Kudos to Nascar for once by parking him for the weekend. By the way, congratulations to Trevor Bayne for winning his first Nationwide race! 👍

 

[BubbleBelly542]

I bet I know exactly what Kyle said on the radio. "Hornaday is doing better than me. Waaah. I'm not going to beat him so I should crash him instead. If I can't win neither can he."

Immature.

 

[LightningRedSTI]

I still can't wait to see what Harvick meant by feel the pain. I'm sure it's going to be great

 

[Spacegoat]

Nascar needs to make Kyle aware as they did many other drivers who got out of line that they DON'T need him. He wants to continue racing here, he'll have to change or he'll have no job.

Couldn't agree more.👍👍

 

[Nicksfix]

I hope they park Kyle Busch for the rest of the season.It would the serve the punk right.

He has to be the biggest idiot,no let me re-phrase that.He is the biggest idiot in Nascar.

The biggest idiot ? That's a compliment when referring to Kyle Busch. I can think of a lot more to describe him, however the GTP AUP will not permit me to say so.

 

[CodeRedR51]

On a brighter note, bought my ticket today for the race next weekend. I got an email telling me all of the grandstand seats were sold out and the only ones left were the hillside, so I jumped on it before I missed out entirely.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

On a brighter note, bought my ticket today for the race next weekend. I got an email telling me all of the grandstand seats were sold out and the only ones left were the hillside, so I jumped on it before I missed out entirely.

Good for you! Is this your first race, by any chance?

Since I moved to Bellevue from Vegas, guess I won't be attending any NASCAR races myself for a while.

Just when all the announcers say Kyle Busch is "new and improved", he pulls his brain out, sticks it up his ass, and pulls a stunt that cost Ron Hornaday a chance at winning the championship. 👎 Kudos to Nascar for once by parking him for the weekend.

And after a few races, they'll probably say the same thing again and then right on time, he'll do something dumb. 👎

By the way, congratulations to Trevor Bayne for winning his first Nationwide race! 👍

Same here. Good thing Hamlin didn't win because that would have been very awkward.

 

[Cale]

Is it me, or does the JRM #88 always finish ~3rd in the points? lol

 

[SuperShouden]

Nascar needs to make Kyle aware as they did many other drivers who got out of line that they DON'T need him. He wants to continue racing here, he'll have to change or he'll have no job.

Didn't they warn Tony Stewert of that after he someone "got him loose" and he pulled a Days of Thunder move in retaliation...and the several other things he's done.

Seems like there are a lot of angry drivers as of late in NASCAR.

 

[plate88]

Its sad that such a great talent as far as driving skill, has a bobblehead on his shoulders. Maybe if it were screwed on tight enough he could really go somewhere with his talent. It was only a matter of time before that inner jackass showed itself again. Big 👎 Kyle.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

On a more positive note Danica looked strong in the nationwide race last night, her future looks promising in the sport, a lot more so than in IndyCar.

 

[RACECAR]

Didn't they warn Tony Stewert of that after he someone "got him loose" and he pulled a Days of Thunder move in retaliation...and the several other things he's done.

For the most part, Tony's toned down but even then, I don't recall him doing any sort of retaliation under caution to anyone else.

 

[MustangRyan]

"Cole, I want you to hit the pace car."

 

[CodeRedR51]

Good for you! Is this your first race, by any chance?

No, not at all. I went to the spring race this year too, but I also went for several years in a row the last time I lived down here. My dad and I used to take thursday and friday off and camp out at the track the whole weekend. Because we're both at new jobs we can't do that this year, but we're thinking about doing it at next years fall race. 👍

 

[Cale]

Apparently we're making plans for Atlanta next year BADAZZZ

 

[wildarms007]

I also hope he is parked the remainder of the season. He crossed the line when he wrecked someone...under caution. That was the line crossed that should not have been.

 

[t_w_a_h]

Apologies for interupting thsi thread with a somewhat controversial topic but this is from another thread (n9on NASCAR thread) which shouldn't be taken off topic.

Post 1 (following from a mention of the KB/RH incident at Texas Motor Speedway):

I know it's off topic but KB's driving is a prime example of why NASCAR has little to no credibility outside of it's core group of fans.

It's a shame that NASCAR puts "celebrity" and revenue above safety and fairness, KB should be banned and his sponsors should tell him precisely where to stick his "attitude". Taken out of the car for the rest of the weekend? He should be taken out of the car for at least the rest of the season.

In my humble opinion he should have been gone from the sport earlier in the year after his blatent, premeditated retaliation on Elliot Sandlet at Bristol (which is without doubt the single most cynical and childish thing I have ever seen on a racetrack).

Reply 1:

Alright, I have to stop you right there. Even tho I don't condone what Kyle has done, it in no way warrents his banning from NASCAR. He is not the first person to go through this type of thing. (Kevin Harvick and Robby Gordon both had similar situations) I think the punishment Kyle got from NASCAR is enough. Yes, he needs to learn from this and I hope he does. If he doesn't learn and continues on these tantrums, then sadly, I would say he must go. I think the appropriate steps have been taken thus far. Look, no one was calling for Brad Kesolowski or Carl Edwards to be banned for their tantums that were much dangerous at much faster tracks. I would say tho, yes this is it for him, one last chance to prove he can learn and grow up. As far as your statement about NASCAR and safety, you are totally out of line there bro.

Reply 2:

I've just watched the video of it and I think he does deserve a ban from all motorsports. Those cars are not toys and the recent loss of 2 drivers shows that motorsport is dangerous enough without crazy people deliberately ramming someone into a wall.

Reply 3:

So, if you have your way, only about half the drivers would be racing because, like I said before, he is not the first person to retaliate. Although it was dangerous, I've seen lot more dangerous acts. Not everyone can be like gentleman Jimmie Johnson. And even he has had his moments.

[snip]...it in no way warrents his banning from NASCAR.[snip]

I would entirely advocate banning him for the rest of the season. He might actually learn a lesson for a change.

His attitude is repugnant and his actions that of a petulant teenager. There is no room for that kind of deliberate and dangerous wrecking in any form of racing.

In an interview with Kyle Busch after the event he says the following:

"I end up losing my cool but I've been wrecked four weeks in a row and finally I've just had enough of it and so I'm sorry it was Ron Hornaday and he's going after a championship...But[/]...the fact of the matter is it's just...y'know... you can't place all the blame on one person, there is two people who got into to begin with and there is two people who ended it."

SOURCE:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0mSc_YjiXI&feature=related

What a farce. I agree "two people got into" followed by a racing incident but it was only KB who then decided to maliciously take aim and punt the rear of Hornaday's car and then even worse and after not getting the result he wanted, he moved to the three quarters to make absolutely sure Ron went into the wall. All this AFTER the cautions were already out and clearly visible!!

He is not the first person to go through this type of thing. (Kevin Harvick and Robby Gordon both had similar situations)

I'm not a huge NASCAR follower but I watch now and then. Presumably you are talking about Kevin Harvick wrecking Trevor Bayne or perhaps Jason Leffler?

If so the incident with Bayne is pretty bad and equally petulant BUT the difference is that it wasn't under caution and it was a snap reaction (and could, but wasn't, be put down to him already being loose). In the KB incident, both cars are under total control after the incident and KB chases down Ron, hits him and then keep hitting him to ensure the job is done.

The accident with Leffler looked like hard racing and if deliberate (probably) Kevin Harvick hardly gained an advantage after having to stop behind him. Equally, after the Leffler incident when Leffler turned into Harvick as they were running slow Harvick backed out and didn't retaliate in anyway (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTxyXuAQIBM).

To my knowledge Kevin Harvick was entirely unpunished for either incident but in my book he too should have faced at least a single weekend ban for the Bayne wreck.

Now, where I fail here though is not knowing Kevin Harvicks "history" where as earlier in the year I watched KB pass the pitlane in a damaged truck to stay on track and deliberately and maliciously take out a guy whose only crime was to be somewhere KB's spotters didn't notice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcKLJarKxOE).

To err once is human, to repeatedly act in such a way is dangerous and should not be tolerated.

I think the punishment Kyle got from NASCAR is enough. Yes, he needs to learn from this and I hope he does. If he doesn't learn and continues on these tantrums, then sadly, I would say he must go. I think the appropriate steps have been taken thus far.

As mentioned above, what about the incident earlier in the year with Elliot Sadler?

Look, no one was calling for Brad Kesolowski or Carl Edwards to be banned for their tantums that were much dangerous at much faster tracks.

Again, Carl Edwards hit on Brad Kesolowski was hard and ultimately dangerous but it wasn't under caution and wasn't anywhere near as pre-meditated. I am pretty sure he didn't expect the 12 car to take off and that itself does go to prove a point I am about to make.

As far as your statement about NASCAR and safety, you are totally out of line there bro.

NO-ONE (as illustrated by the CE/BK incident) can predict what is going to happen when cars make impact at that kind of speed. Equally when a truck hits a wall at 140 ish NO-ONE can predict what is going to happen to the truck and where exactly all the parts are going to end up.

Now I know and appreciate that NASCAR have done a lot of work in terms of the safety of the cars, the drivers, the crew and the fans but if they let repeated offenders like KB "get away" with minimal punishment then all of their work is undone.

The only reason KB and others get away with it is because he/they have a huge fan base and therefore bring a lot of money and sponsorship into the sport.

You only have to listen to the interview with Joe Gibbs after the announcement on the following morning to hear how much more important the potential loss of sponsor revenue is than anything else...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0mSc_YjiXI&feature=related

Even when asked directly about the conduct of his driver Joe in no way condemns the behavior of KB.

Jerry Punch - "Coach you know, erm, eh, I know that we, it's tough to look at this you know from an owners standpoint but also from an objective standpoint in your mind was what he did wrong last night on the racetrack?"

Joe Gibbs - "I think err, you know, for me to start in on that I think everyone just knows it was a serious situation that had to be dealt with and, err, err, like I said, err, NASCAR, err, obviously they got a lot of experience and err, I think they do a great job of managing things and they do a great job of handling things like that so err I think it's, you know, we trust them".

Which essentially amount to:

JP - "Was he wrong?"

JG - "I won't directly condemn his actions and I'll pad the sentence with lots of irrelevant praising of NASCAR organisers."

Wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of a sponsor now would you Joe!

And all this in the context of the tragic month that motorsport has already suffered.

Anyway, just my tuppence as I was frankly disgusted by his actions.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Umm...yeah. Think that's blowing it a bit out of proportion and I honestly don't think the discussion needs to get that indepth here.

 

[t_w_a_h]

Sorry, yeah, I forgot in depth discussion was outlawed in a discussion forum.

I'll stop now.