2012 Santander Italian Grand Prix

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IceMan PJN
Massa hasn't been on top all weekend, so I see mo reason to predict him somehow coming out in front. Hamilton and Alonso have been the top drivers this weekend, and Button came out ahead of Massa in both practice and qualifying. I predict Massa won't find himself in either of the top two positions except maybe briefly when a McLaren pits first, and I would be a little surprised if he scores a podium because I sort of suspect Alonso will finish ahead of Massa, with or without team orders.

I think the track suites Massa. I seem to remember that he ran reasonably high up the order last year, before having a problem or a dodgy pit stop or something
 
m8h3r
Not sure if I'll get to watch this live so I'll add my valued input now..

Yes, great start for Mclaren.

Ugh, typical maldona-do'h. That's going to take a while to clean up.

All that fuss about Narain out qualifying his team mate and overtaken at the first corner.

Arrrggghhhh why do Mclaren do this to me. Yet another screwed up pitstop for them. Let's just hope Hamilton can still win now buttons out of it.

No button!! Don't hit Hamilton.

Well done to Mr Vettel, can't believe he got first and Alonso got second. Nice to see a Toro Rosso on the podium though.

WRONG! Button will win no doubt.
 
Will McLaren let Button and Hamilton race at the start? That first chicane could spell disaster, just glad Grosjean ain't there. He would probably fly right through it.
 
Congratulations to Mitch Evans, 2012 GP3 champion. What a ride that was this weekend...
 
They'll likely have a gentleman's agreement - the first one to the corner gets the corner. They're both intelligent enough (at least when they're on the track) and they know that any funny business could spell disaster for both their drivers' championship and McLaren's constructors' championship campaigns.
 
prisonermonkeys
They'll likely have a gentleman's agreement - the first one to the corner gets the corner. They're both intelligent enough (at least when they're on the track) and they know that any funny business could spell disaster for both their drivers' championship and McLaren's constructors' championship campaigns.

You really think Hamilton will give room for Jenson if his first? I really doubt it!
 
You really think Hamilton will give room for Jenson if his first? I really doubt it!

Jenson is a very clever driver, he knows when to go for it and when to let someone through. If Hamilton is ahead going into the first corner I doubt he'll try anything aggressive, I remember when they were fighting in Turkey 2010 Jenson was very easy on Lewis. I just hope Lewis has a good start so we can have a clean first corner.

I've also noticed Alonso is getting a share of bad luck now. Jeez, if people would jinx Alonso the same way they'd wish for world peace, there'd be no more conflict in this world!

I think he'll have a good race because he is one of the most consistent drivers in the field, he and the Ferrari look fast here and I don't think they are lacking in terms of straight line speed.
 
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Jenson is probably the smartest driver in F1 maybe ever. In the other Lewis is very agressive and bad or the tires.
 
I don't know if this is worth its own thread or not as he isn't the biggest superstar in F1 but Pedro de la Rosa has reached 100 Grand Prix this weekend.

F1 Rejects wrote a tribute article for him:
http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/2012/delarosa/index.html

I for one love Pedro's constant smile and passion to get in a race car. Its the same as with Barrichello - you know he's happy just to be in an F1 car, let alone actually be fast in one.

An interesting little Gran Turismo-related side as well is that Pedro along with Michael Krumm and Masami Kageyama are the ones that drove this car to success in the JGTC.

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Jenson is probably the smartest driver in F1 maybe ever. In the other Lewis is very agressive and bad or the tires.

Yeah, Hamilton is really bad on his tyres, like when he made them last to go from 24th to 8th in Spain.

Only one to one stop that race I think, so yeah he must be bad on them. :rolleyes:
 
DaxCobra
Yeah, Hamilton is really bad on his tyres, like when he made them last to go from 24th to 8th in Spain.

Only one to one stop that race I think, so yeah he must be bad on them. :rolleyes:

Thats one race, lol. He locks up the tires way too often.
 
Thats one race, lol. He locks up the tires way too often.

Jensen locks his a lot when he is told to really push. Especially with the big braking zones here at Monza I don't think there'll a single drive who doesn't lock up at least 10 times.
 
Thats one race, lol. He locks up the tires way too often.
The front tyre locking is down to the McLaren cars requiring a bit of a stiffer suspension setup and the lock-ups don't really do any damage to the tyres. I think the case of Hamilton being too hard on the tyres is about as true as Vettel not knowing how to overtake.
 
it physically hurts me to see that Perry still exists in an administrative capacity.
 
The front tyre locking is down to the McLaren cars requiring a bit of a stiffer suspension setup and the lock-ups don't really do any damage to the tyres. I think the case of Hamilton being too hard on the tyres is about as true as Vettel not knowing how to overtake.

Strangely, it seems like a bcak and forth thing. If the car is well dialled-in, Button seem to manage the tires better. If the car is unruly, Hamilton seems to do the job.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's how it seems to me.
 
Probably putting the kiss of death on it, but I hope the Mclaren pair get away clear and make it an easy 1-2.
 
Hope Mclaren make it a 1-2 and close down Red Bull in the Constructers. But It'd be nice to see Felipe do well, so I hope it's a podium for him.
 
I fancy Schumi for a podium, providing he doesn't have yet more bad luck.
 
Now let's seen those Red Bulls lose twenty places down the main straight... :lol:
 
Exceptionally clean first chicane, well done fellas.
 
And here we go... those Ferraris are damn quick!
 
Fernando in 6th already.
 
Alonso driving like his balls are on fire!
 
Not to jinx it or anything... but Alonso for Podium?
 
That Mercedes is a sitting duck out there.
 
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