2013 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

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Pretty boring race that only became interesting because so many cars pushed it on a 2 stop, otherwise very dull. Great drives by the top three drivers again but Vettel is just too good, anyone that thinks that performance was all car is frankly crazy. The Red Bull is not that much faster than the other cars, he could easily go three seconds a lap faster than anyone lap after lap. He also did so being much lighter on his tyres and unless you're going to argue he gets special tyres as well, that was all driver.
 
RBR = Supernatural Car + Extraterrestrial Driver = 4 Straight, World Championship Titles.

This was an exciting race. I was actually clapping when Kimi got by Button and took off. What a beastly drive for him today. Since I'm not a Ferrari fan, I'm a little disappointed he's moving there. Now I'll be rooting for Ferrari by proxy. :grumpy:

Alonzo's start and his driving, combined with the strategy pulled him an excellent finish.

Webber's woes continue, but any race, where one driver gives another a ride to the pit, has to be considered an outstanding event.
 
Webber's woes continue, but any race, where one driver gives another a ride to the pit, has to be considered an outstanding event.

I agree. Was nice to see Blondie offer Mark a lift back to the pits. Oh, he didn't. +1 Alonso.

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I'd like to see a clip where Damon Hill or Jenson Button were ruthless bastards...
 
Delete, please.
 
Your account?

Haha! Brilliant, but nah.

There's always a create-an-account in case of an mistake though! 👍
 
Wait... what?

What? He was extending his lead by 2 - 3 seconds over several laps. I didn't word it particularly well, didn't mean 'anyone' of course.
 
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I think you need to start looking back at past races. Vettel's had his share of unreliability.
Apparently the number of times Webber's car failed him is only one more than Seb's car.
I just looked this up.

Since they became team"mates" in 2009, Vettel has failed to finish the race distance on 12 occasions, with 8 of those being vehicle failures. Webber has failed to finish the race distance on 10 occasions, with 4 of those being vehicle failures.

That doesn't take into account races they've finished with vehicle defects or defects that have affected their qualifying, only DNFs and classified finishes short of the race distance.
 
Loving the use of the quotation marks there Famine.

On the subject of boo'ing Vettel I don't think its right. Don't get me wrong, I am sick of seeing him keep winning but on the basis that I love variety and uncertainty in motor racing. I want the field to be mixed up, I love seeing underdogs win and unlikely situations that cause your popcorn to fly everywhere, fine.

Having said that, you can't fault what he's doing. Its what you get for idolizing Michael Schumacher I suppose. Lewis idolized Senna, he has an "I'm going to absolutely fight everything and go full throttle" attitude, Seb has a German "I'm fast and efficient, and ruthless when I need to" attitude. Thats cool. He is supremely gifted, supremely motivated as evidenced earlier, and supremely fast. You need that to get ahead in F1 and he has it. You can make the argument about the car beneath him, and yes until he gets into another car and team, that choir won't die down, I see the point. But it's not a case of get in the car, press a button and just keep your foot on the throttle, you still have to drive.

He's brilliant, and the rest of the field need to match RBR. Maybe we'll see that next year with the new regulations, you have to admit that they almost dominated the latter half of the V8 years.

The boo'ing is disrespecting of sportsmanship and simply needs to stop. The above is just my opinion so I'm not getting at anyone :)

That'll do champ, that'll do. You sir are a prophet that every GP thread needs.

Thank you, I'm in the wrong job :)
 
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RBR/Vettel claim or think it is that pesky band of traveling Ferrari loving gypsies.

In reality they think it is Ferrari fans that are doing most of the booing and are just sore losers that are ten years too late. Paraphrasing here but their words not mine.
 
If you spend the money for flights, hotel, tickets and time for a product - you should & do have the right to complain if it is poor value.

Even Claire Williams - deputy team principal of Williams called the race 'a procession' on SkySportsF1 right now, with Ted Kravitz agreeing and going further.
 
They should be booing the teams that can't produce a car and driver to beat Vettel, not Vettel for just driving to the limit of his car and performance. It's not his fault. It seems some of the fans expect him to do what you do when you let your 5 year old cousin have a race with you on Gran Turismo, slow down and keep stopping so he can catch you up.
 
They should be booing the teams that can't produce a car and driver to beat Vettel, not Vettel for just driving to the limit of his car and performance. It's not his fault.

That requires intelligence.
 
RBR/Vettel claim or think it is that pesky band of traveling Ferrari loving gypsies.

In reality they think it is Ferrari fans that are doing most of the booing and are just sore losers that are ten years too late. Paraphrasing here but their words not mine.

I think this may be right. Thankfully I'm not that kind of Ferrari fan :).

It might also just be a general consensus of fans being fed up with the lack of variety. We all feel it, and even for those of us who still respect him and are fascinated by his dominance, we are torn by the predictability and lack of drama and excitement for the fight to finish 1st.

I don't know if I would want it any other way though. I would like for it to be Alonso, Raikennen, or Hamilton in his place, but not because I don't like Vettel. It's because I feel that Vettel has kinda had more than his share. 3 straight championships in a row and now almost certainly on his way to a 4th. I don't mind him winning 4 either, just not in this fashion. Makes it seem like he is sandbagging even though there is no higher level for him to race at.

It's the same case for Audi and their dominance at Le Mans. It's awesome, but again, people like variety.
 
They should be booing the teams that can't produce a car and driver to beat Vettel

Have you ever been to any sporting event, ever?
 
If you spend the money for flights, hotel, tickets and time for a product - you should & do have the right to complain if it is poor value.

Even Claire Williams - deputy team principal of Williams called the race 'a procession' on SkySportsF1 right now, with Ted Kravitz agreeing and going further.

Once again, you saying it's a poor value doesn't equate it to being a poor value, read the AUP and don't try to pass it off as fact.

If I paid to see this race, I'd be quite happy and I'm an MGP fan more so a Hamilton fan.

That requires intelligence.

As can be see on GTP (no need to say who, they know)
 
Wait, you guys STILL respond to JGreens? Why?
 
Nice camaraderie from Blondie there, offering to help Mark back to the pits...

Crowd excellent as usual! Winnings in pocket as well!

.... Was nice to see Blondie offer Mark a lift back to the pits. Oh, he didn't. +1 Alonso.
You know that action of carrying a driver in the airbox might get Alonso and Webber an investigation. Doing something like this is highly dangerous and knowing FIA, they might have some rules breach they can find if they want to.
 
They were actually reprimanded for it, and as it's Webber's third reprimand of the season, he gets a 10-place grid penalty for Korea.
 
If I paid to see this race, I'd be quite happy and I'm an MGP fan more so a Hamilton fan.
You can honestly say that with a straight face?
I don't have the money like that to flush it down the toilet. I'll pay to see my team away up and down the country but when I go, I expect to see a performance worthy of the expenses I've put in for my support and you would be happy with 2nd & 5th? Really? I'd want my team to WIN. Not 2nd & 5th.


As can be see on GTP (no need to say who, they know)
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It seems I'm the only one that actually goes to sporting events here! Shall I post other events & evidence where crowd noise deliberately made to the detriment of other teams/players actually works?
I'll just post evidence number one:

Seattle Seahawks Home Matches -
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/09/16/seattle-seahawks-fans-set-stadium-noise-record-sunday/
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/1/loudest-crowd-roar-at-a-sports-stadium

The crowd's noise prevented the 49'ers to score points.

And who can forget Lynch's amazing TD run against the Saints two years ago - the crowd caused an EARTHQUAKE, FFS!

Now if the booing can prevent Vettel from jaywalking away with the title - keep on going!

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You know that action of carrying a driver in the airbox might get Alonso and Webber an investigation. Doing something like this is highly dangerous and knowing FIA, they might have some rules breach they can find if they want to.
Highly dangerous but also incredibly iconic and something the fans love and appreciate? I hope Ted Kravitz is right and the F1 world goes nuts over this travesty of a decision.
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or better yet:
alonso-sobre-rb7-webber-nurburgring-2011.jpg
 
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Have you ever been to any sporting event, ever?

Samus is right.

Go watch football. If a team sucks enough, their own fans will start to boo at them. The winner gets the applause.
 
Samus is right.

Go watch football. If a team sucks enough, their own fans will start to boo at them. The winner gets the applause.

Clearly, you've never been to a football match either! :lol:
 
Webber gets a 10 place grid penalty...No words...
 
Webber gets a 10 place grid penalty...No words...

Haven't seen it but someone said cars had to swerve out of the way when Webber hoped on to Alonso's car so it's dangerous,harsh penalty though but isn't that the rule for a 3rd reprimand?
 
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