2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

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Zenith
Isn't the noise cancelling directed towards the engine, not into the cabin?
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I'm not 100% sure what goes on with the system to be honest. In the new Murano there's two microphones in the roof liner (front & back) and then the speakers in the doors. The microphones listen for certain frequencies and then the speakers output frequencies that counteract them, so they cancel eachother out. Makes the cabin quieter, or at least to the human ear. I just had to work on one that was malfunctioning where the system, instead of minimizing the noise, it was actually amplifying it. Turned out to be a bad speaker.
 
Omnis
That's the thing though. A driver has to be comfortable in a driver's car. Otherwise, you're just like a hired gun for a fat race car owner in a hot, uncomfortable, fast car.
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I'm guessing the Z/28 will share the same fate as the Cobra R Mustang. Purchased mostly by collectors and stored away from their proper home at the track.
 
Zenith
I'm guessing the Z/28 will share the same fate as the Cobra R Mustang. Purchased mostly by collectors and stored away from their proper home at the track.
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Yep I bet those 500 or so they made for '14 will be in garages under a car cover. Shame the best models don't get driven like they were built for.
 
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McLaren
Uh, most driver cars put the driver in a level of comfort with the car itself (which the Z28 does very well at giving feedback), not how relaxed he can be whilst reclining in his seat.

If A/C is a legitimate comfort concern for you, it's the last of your worries with a Z28 once you get to how it actually rides.
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Not to mention GM's fondness for recalls..
 
Leonidae@MFT
Not to mention GM's fondness for recalls..
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Or is that a Ferrari-inspired tactic to not let people actually own their cars? Heh.

Anyway, as for the new Mustang it does have a rather large upper lip, looks swollen but not bloated. Not too shabby at all and some promising performance times so it seems.
 
Leonidae@MFT
Not to mention GM's fondness for recalls..
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Well recall is better than leaving fatal problems in cars. Then again why do they have fatal problems in their cars in the first place.
 
Cars too refined these days and it takes the fun out of it.
 
RocZX
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Don't like the reviewer. There, I said it. The moment he spoke about how controlling the Mustang isn't "satisfying" is when I paused the video to write this.

The satisfaction of driving comes when you overcome difficulties and make a car do what you want it to do. There are ways to make it happen. I'm sorry this reviewer apparently was not able to step up to the Mustang's challenge. I'd argue that he's not truly passionate about driving as a challenge if he's willing to settle for the Camaro's handling characteristics - "stable" and "planted" are synonymous with "easy" and "boring". At the limit, the Camaro would end up being the more difficult car to drive because it does not offer as many options for how you can drive it. Seems to me like he sees the driving challenge as intimidating. I don't like that.

Keep in mind that the Camaro has all that traction and room for correction because he's simply not going fast enough. At the limit, the Camaro will settle into understeer mid-corner and leave you with no other options.

Maybe I'm just too hardcore when it comes to my driving preferences but I disagree with many things the reviewer says. The Camaro might be faster but speed doesn't necessarily equal fun. Look at the FRS. And while that car is rather more tail happy than this new Mustang, every reviewer on the planet says it's the most fun car they've ever driven. And yet, when the Mustang exhibits similar behavior it's not fun, it's intimidating. Nonsense. Simple from watching that video I can tell you the Mustang is the car I'd be driving, enjoying, and working to tame. I prefer its more neutral balance and willingness to play. I think overall it has the potential to be the quicker track car as well.
 
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Here's the thing though. Watch Pobst drive the 5.0 with the staggered tires. Then go watch him drive the EcoBoost with the same wheels all around. The 4-banger looks smooth and handles so progressively. The V8 looks like it's always modulating under- and oversteer. It's like an understeering pig until you get on the throttle. Looks like you have to steer with the pedal.
 
Omnis
Here's the thing though. Watch Pobst drive the 5.0 with the staggered tires. Then go watch him drive the EcoBoost with the same wheels all around. The 4-banger looks smooth and handles so progressively. The V8 looks like it's always modulating under- and oversteer. It's like an understeering pig until you get on the throttle. Looks like you have to steer with the pedal.
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It could also be that Pobst is keeping the car on the limit of grip more of the time. Being constantly on the very edge of over/understeer is generally a good thing for drivers.
 
Zenith
It could also be that Pobst is keeping the car on the limit of grip more of the time. Being constantly on the very edge of over/understeer is generally a good thing for drivers.
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Being on the slip angle is good. Major push unless you're power oversteering = bad. The Camaro looked far and away the better handling car.
 
That didn't take long.

 
Sounds like lumpy mashed potatoes.
 
I wonder how much power than tune gave it. Not a fan of ghost cams myself but it's neat I suppose.
 
Watched a video yesterday of an Ecoboost with an aftermarket turboback exhaust on the dyno. Sounded like ass. :p

But it was a company I've never heard of before, so hoping a system from Cobb or similar sounds better.
 
R1600Turbo
Watched a video yesterday of an Ecoboost with an aftermarket turboback exhaust on the dyno. Sounded like ass. :p

But it was a company I've never heard of before, so hoping a system from Cobb or similar sounds better.
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This one?



MOOOOOOO

McLaren
LOL, in a graph you seem to be behind. Sorry, I can't take anything you say about whether or not its a drivers car seriously when your reasoning was originally the AC unit you can have optioned back in.
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It's not just the AC. It's a Camaro. That interior is ghastly.

edit: Here's a new sort of half-assed catback for the V8.



Proof that the suitcase is evil.
 
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*sigh* :banghead:

Seriously, why is this, why isn't it until the cars are released to the public that car manufacturers notice a problem in their cars?
 
RandomCarGuy17
*sigh* :banghead:

Seriously, why is this, why isn't it until the cars are released to the public that car manufacturers notice a problem in their cars?
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If it's so easy, then do it yourself.

The component in question is likely made by someone other than Ford, so faults in it's application or design can be harder to find.
 
Beeblebrox237
If it's so easy, then do it yourself.

The component in question is likely made by someone other than Ford, so faults in it's application or design can be harder to find.
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Sorry, I wouldn't know that.
 
Beeblebrox237
If it's so easy, then do it yourself.

The component in question is likely made by someone other than Ford, so faults in it's application or design can be harder to find.
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Yup. Most parts are contracted out. Not that it matters, since the part is 100% Ford's responsibility when they put it into the car and slap their name on it.
 
http://fordracingnation.com/tech-ca...-their-twin-turbo-kit-for-the-2015-mustang-gt

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1st 2015 Mustang GT twin turbo. Hellion Turbo systems built a kit in 7 days! The kit has twin Precision 62mm turbos and all stainless piping. We will be on the dyno next week. As soon as I get numbers I will post them.
 
That's how you make money. Don't waste any time, get it done and make it available ASAP.
 
R1600Turbo
That's how you make money. Don't waste any time, get it done and make it available ASAP.
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That is the Urist way he is 100% all the time. I am waiting for the other Albuquerque based Mustang turbo company (http://www.turbohorsepower.com/) to be right behind Hellion with a '15 kit. Hell when the '05 3v S197 was coming out Turbohorsepower had a 3v engine and turbo kit ready before the '05 hit the showrooms.
 
To me it looks like those turbos will be heating up the intake nicely.. I certainly hope they will add some heat shielding. Hot intake air is a big no no for turbos.
 
Leonidae@MFT
To me it looks like those turbos will be heating up the intake nicely.. I certainly hope they will add some heat shielding. Hot intake air is a big no no for turbos.
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They probably will the Hellion kits are big $$$$ Because they are high quality and include EVERYTHING.
 
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