2015 Italian Grand Prix

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Huge time advantage you can gain with 0.3 PSI. :D

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So, I'm coming home from a long trip just in time to see George Lucas on the podium. What'd I miss, besides Lewis' shocking blonde hair coming out of his helmet?
 
Huge time advantage you can gain with 0.3 PSI. :D

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So, I'm coming home from a long trip just in time to see George Lucas on the podium. What'd I miss, besides Lewis' shocking blonde hair coming out of his helmet?
Engine blow up from Rosberg and sleepy Kimi on the start. But other than that I would say nothing.
 
Ferrari have issue to...

Paddy Lowe is saying that Hamilton's rear tyres were prepared at the correct pressure under supervision from Pirelli. Sky are reporting (as you say) that Ferrari may have the same problem too although there's no stewards note yet that I know of.
 
Tin foil hat on, there is nothing wrong but the FIA decided to fabricate anything to make the rest of the season watchable.
 
What's with the smart ass remark, SkyF1 just said this...hence why I'm wondering what exactly.
Doesn't matter what SkyF1 said when I posted the document from the Technical Delegate to the stewards that states cars 5 and 7 were over the minimum PSI.
 
Doesn't matter what SkyF1 said when I posted the document from the Technical Delegate to the stewards that states cars 5 and 7 were over the minimum PSI.

And those can be updated as this is a real time incident evolving. So, once again the eyeroll, and remark weren't needed when I'm just trying to see if anyone has further info.
 
Well according to Paddy they had them at 19.5 PSI, as they were told to do. There seems to be a lot of confusion right now
 
And those can be updated as this is a real time incident evolving. So, once again the eyeroll, and remark weren't needed when I'm just trying to see if anyone has further info.
Because SkyF1, the pro-Hamilton group that they are, would know more than the stewards and the technical delegate.

Right...
 
In the wake of Spa this is completely stupid, just because a certain Red colored team couldn't follow simple guidelines and had to push the boundaries. The season is already riddled with ways to be penalized, I hope this isn't another ongoing issue like the tight engine regs that hurt teams in the final 7 races. However, if like Fuel flow problem seen early last year it shouldn't be a big hindrance.
Because SkyF1, the pro-Hamilton group that they are, would know more than the stewards and the technical delegate.

Right...

Once again it's an evolving issue, despite alignment as you claim they've heard things through the paddock and are more likely to be believed due to being on scene then someone you're closely following on Reddit whose connection is unknown. You're black and white attitude at the moment is a bit uncalled for considering that we don't know, and info is trickling in as the situation evolves, for you to dismiss the claim as some trite cause you have your pre-determined ideals on certain parties is a bit ignorant and surprising.

I guess next you'll claim that the interview with Lowe was a set up between Merc and SkyF1 to save face, and a Pirelli rep didn't actually oversee them set the tire pressures for the race?
 
I'm not watching Sky as it's not available in America.. you should be aware of that as well. I don't even know why you're bringing up reddit in this. I don't use that website.

I'm guessing you think someone fabricated the TD's document to the stewards as well?
 
Bernie's probably going to do everything so his little darling Hamilton doesn't get penetalized :lol:

We are talking about Lewis Hamilton, who has been penalized by the FIA, in the past, retroactively for a move he made on track that was legal when he did it?

And whose championship win over Massa by clinching 5th place at Brazil prompted a tirade from Bernie about changing the championship from a points to a medal system?

Just trying to be clear that we're talking about the same Hamilton. :D
 
I'm not watching Sky as it's not available in America.. you should be aware of that as well. I don't even know why you're bringing up reddit in this. I don't use that website.

I'm guessing you think someone fabricated the TD's document to the stewards as well?

Cause one, the reddit post was used in here to show the delegate report before anything else, and two just cause you don't watch sky doesn't mean many of the rest of us don't. Even after I told you what they said, you still made remarks of a nature that seemed sarcastic. And no I never said the TD document was fabricated or hinted at it, but you did hint that there was some ulterior motive to the way Sky F1 was reporting on a subject even they were in the dark about, thus hearing word on the paddock from others on site was the best they could do in the moment.
 
Pirelli apparently already warned the teams this weekend about tyre pressures.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pirelli-warns-teams-not-to-flout-tyre-pressure-rules

By: Adam Cooper, F1 reporter
Yesterday at 11:17am
Pirelli has warned F1 teams that they cannot allow the pressures to drop below the prescribed minimum limit after cars leave the pits during the Italian GP.
The minimum tyre pressures are measured by the car's telemetry as they leave the pitlane, and that information is recorded by the Pirelli engineers who work with each team.

Any anomalies are then picked up by the FIA.

There is clearly a suspicion that teams have found ways to meet the legal requirement as the car leaves the pits, but then run on track with slightly lower and thus more favourable pressures, which in turn aid car performance.

Pirelli says that if that is found to be the case the team concerned will be given higher minimum starting pressure figures.

In the letter, seen by Motorsport.com, Pirelli's Mario Isola told the teams: "Our prescriptions about minimum starting pressures are based on the assumption that running pressures are higher than starting ones.

"These are the historical values we've seen, and we therefore need you to respect this in order to operate the tyres safely.

"If we find, during any session, that your stabilised pressures are equal to or lower than the starting pressures, we will give higher starting pressures limit to your team, as agreed with FIA."

Temperatures being watched
One way to promote a pressure drop on track is to have very high blanket temperatures, and Pirelli has underlined that the temperature numbers are being watched: "I also remind you to respect the maximum temperature for blankets as we will ask FIA to random check the values."

Teams are also believed to be trying to get around the pressure requirements via both set-up and operational means.

It has been suggested for example that drivers have been leaving the pits with new tyres and passing the minimum pressure requirement.

They have then returned to the pits and the mechanics have reduced the pressures before the car heads out again to do a proper run.

"We need to be sure that the running pressure is in-line with the starting pressure," Isola told Motorsport.com.

"I fully understand that the teams need to find performance, that is clear. On the other side we have to be sure that the tyres are working in the right way. It's always a balance between the two.

"When we find something that is not what we want, the tyre is not operating in the range we want we need to be sure to come back to a situation is under control.

"For me it is not correct to say that people are cheating. They are trying to find the room in the regulations to do something that is allowed because it is not forbidden.

"If we realised that this new idea has a negative impact on the tyre, we need to react, and to police it. They've found some grey areas where they can work at the limit, that's all."

Meanwhile, one team insider told Motorsport.com that pressures could drop dramatically during the course of Sunday's race: "The car set-up can promote a reduction in pressure, but the biggest factor is tyre wear.

"As the rubber thickness reduces the tread temperature decreases and this cools the air inside, and pulls the tyre pressure down.

"This is what happens during a long stint e.g. Ferrari in Spa. And it's what's going to happen tomorrow when everyone attempts a one-stop strategy."
 
I don't think this is something they can do that for.

I think they may be able to do that actually. Rules were broken that all teams are meant to adhere to with no flexibility. Not saying it would be a good idea to DSQ but you've got to be consistant. An infringement like that before a race would result in a demotion to the back of the grid, right? So what do you do during it? That being said, it seems like Mercedes may not have intentionally done that so then what do you do? Rules are rules but what if there was an error with the sensors?
 
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