2015 Italian Grand Prix

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So Hamilton's left rear was, allegedly, 0.3psi below while Roseberg's left rear was 1.1 below. That's gauged out-of-the-blankets pressure.

Sky having an interesting interview with Rob "Faster Than You" Smedley on the subject.
 
TenEightyOne
So Hamilton's left rear was, allegedly, 0.3psi below while Roseberg's left rear was 1.1 below. That's gauged out-of-the-blankets pressure.

Sky having an interesting interview with Rob "Faster Than You" Smedley on the subject.
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And he's trying hard to press how disqualification is the answer.

Liquid
Tyre pressure problems?

Must be Pirelli's fault.
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I see what you did there
 
Why did the drama only arise at the end of the race? It took well over an hour before Mercedes started worrying, why couldn't Pirelli say there and then there was a problem?
 
GTPorsche
I don't think this is something they can do that for.
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Designers and teams are presented with a Formula... your car is either within that technical specification or it isn't. Procedural infringements (fitting the wrong tyre, being on the grid at the wrong time) can carry race-or-time penalties, sadly the record shows (iirc) that DSQs are the only solution for non-legal cars.

LMSCorvetteGT2
And he's trying hard to press how disqualification is the answer.
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Pat Symonds is saying the same... of course Williams have a couple of dogs in the fight.

BBC
Williams' chief technical officer Pat Symonds thinks Lewis Hamilton could, perhaps should, be disqualified.

He tells Sky Sports F1: "I expect quite a big penalty - a disqualification.

"It's out of my hands but I don't think it's a tough decision if the measurements are verified."
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Peasantslayer
Why did the drama only arise at the end of the race? It took well over an hour before Mercedes started worrying, why couldn't Pirelli say there and then there was a problem?
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Because it's not something that gets judged or penalised in the race. The question is how Mercedes got a sniff of the problem.
 
For the sake of the championship, DSQ might'nt be too bad.
 
I can believe Mercedes trying to run pressures as low as possible. Lewis and Nico need all the help they can get coming off the line, given how much better off the chocks Red Bull and Ferrari seem to be.

Also plays into the discrepancy of Rosberg's being even lower... he's suffered some really bad starts.

Would also explain why they're so mum on the issue.

A DSQ might be a bit much. A time penalty and the suggested increase in minimum required temperatures, probably. I don't think the FIA will want to be seen changing the results of the race after the fact.

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Not like this has... uh... ever stopped them before.
 
Love how the tyre guy for Williams double-checked the colour of the tyre before Bottas' pit stop :lol:

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Queue of nervous Merc employees heads for headmaster's study stewards' office for their spanking inquiry.
 
GTPorsche
I don't think this is something they can do that for.
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It should be. It's nothing short of utterly callous and moronic that the teams still think it's fine to compromise a driver's safety for the sake of some tenths.

Hamilton was 0.5s a lap faster than 2nd. Would 0.3psi really have lost him the win?
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
If this is the state of F1 fans to get a contrived but closer championship, then be mad at the teams that can't rise to task to stop such things.
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Definently but such is the situation of Formula 1! :lol:
 
This from Sky regarding the GP2 race...

Sky
There has been a precedent this weekend already with tyre pressures. This is what was announced following GP2 qualifying:

“Mitch Evans, who finished the session in P2, has been excluded from the results after it was found that the tyre pressure of his RUSSIAN TIME car was below the minimum required.

“Sergio Canamasas received the same penalty as Evans after the tyre pressure on his Lazarus car was also found below the minimum required.”
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Interesting question on their TV feed; why would a car with unsafe pressures actually be allowed to race and not warned or black-flagged?
 
Famine
It should be. It's nothing short of utterly callous and moronic that the teams still think it's fine to compromise a driver's safety for the sake of some tenths.

Hamilton was 0.5s a lap faster than 2nd. Would 0.3psi really have lost him the win?
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Wouldn't have changed anything in the entire picture of the race.

The tire pressure thing being new is a technical directive, I thought, and not a regulation as of yet. Can that still be a DSQ?

Edit: I guess if Evans was DSQ'd for the same thing yesterday...
 
Peasantslayer
Pirelli are in the wrong either way, either Paddy is right about the cars having legal pressures or Pirelli have allowed them to race with "unsafe" pressures.
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You mean that the FIA has allowed them to race? The report to the stewards came from Jo Bauer, the FIA Technical Delegate...
 
Peasantslayer
Pirelli are in the wrong either way, either Paddy is right about the cars having legal pressures or Pirelli have allowed them to race with "unsafe" pressures.
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The problem is that you can have the tires up to the correct pressure in the garage (via hotter tire warmers)... but below the correct pressure on the grid.
 
I'm not sure exactly which rule in the Tech Regs makes Pirelli's guidelines enforceable... obviously there should (and must) be one...

The closest I can find is 12.5.3;

12-5-3
If, in the interests of maintaining current levels of circuit safety, the FIA deems it necessary to reduce tyre grip, it shall introduce such rules as the tyre supplier may advise or, in the absence of advice which achieves the FIA's objectives, specify the maximum permissible contact areas for front and rear tyres.
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Regs are regs. If the cars were below the minimum standards at the start, then the only justified penalty is a disqualification, regardless of the team and driver. The question now is if it was a reg that was actually enforceable, which looks like it could be. If that's the case, Hamilton gets DSQ and Rosberg gets a penalty for Singapore.
 
I like Seb's answer to the media on the topic about all this, and how he doesn't like to be hammered about similar questions that we saw Lewis hammered on.
 
outlaw4rc
It just dawned on me that the only cars mentioned here are the Mercedes and Ferraris. Peculiar.
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First two rows. All the cars are checked at that 5 minute point before the race. They probably just needed two teams to compare and it's just purely coincidental that Ferrari are the ones they compared with.
 

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