2015 NASCAR Thread - And then there was 1

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Truex Jr 2nd, Allmendinger 6th, Brian Scott with a career best 13th, Vickers with a 15th place finish on his return to the series after heart surgery.
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I didn't like Vickers when he first came on the scene due to some of his on-track antics, but that all went away with his health issues. He's obviously matured (real life has that effect), so it's nice just to see him back out there.
 
So Harvick has finished inside the top two last six races, you know what that is ?

Freaky f'n fast! :lol:

Good runs for Truex Jr and Allmendinger yesterday too. 👍
 
As I understand it, the rules package this year is specifically trying to make the cars harder to driver with the intent of creating better racing.

That being said, I randomly came up with this question for discussion: Carl Edwards nearly saved it when he and Kasey Kahne got together yesterday. Would he have saved it last year, or is the rules change not that drastic?
 
JTG Daugherty is 5th in points with AJ. That's excellent work by them. All the Childress satellite teams are currently ahead of the 3 Childress teams. Even Germain racing is still in the top 10 in points
 
cnd01
JTG Daugherty is 5th in points with AJ. That's excellent work by them. All the Childress satellite teams are currently ahead of the 3 Childress teams. Even Germain racing is still in the top 10 in points
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Give it time, and a few more non-restrictor plate races. After 12-15 races, let's see how things start to shake out.
 
raven214
As I understand it, the rules package this year is specifically trying to make the cars harder to driver with the intent of creating better racing.
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But so far at two of the many cookie cutter tracks on the schedule, the racing has been just as bad if not worse than the past several seasons. 👎 I'll give this package three more chances (Phoenix, California, and Texas) before calling NASCAR's rule changes yet another failure.
 
Remember the 2013 daytona 500? The drivers were afraid to make moves because they were unfamiliar with the cars (which explains the single file parade that race was). The same exception could be applied here as the drivers may not be fully settled with the new changes. I will give it a few more races before I call it a failure or not.
 
RVDNuT374
But so far at two of the many cookie cutter tracks on the schedule, the racing has been just as bad if not worse than the past several seasons. 👎 I'll give this package three more chances (Phoenix, California, and Texas) before calling NASCAR's rule changes yet another failure.
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Also if they're harder to driver why does, the championship basically follow the same image as last years start and pre-chase start. I mean even without BK and Gordon and Kenseth at the top for now they've still shown to be just as fast. Logano, JJ, Junior and Harvick seem to be doing work as usual. Even Hamlin who I can't stand is fast.
 
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The top teams, and top drivers will continue to be the top teams and top drivers regardless of rules.
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Which means this rule change isn't going to be nearly as effecting in changing the adaptability of drivers like the Gen 5 COT. The point is if you really want to make drivers struggle and have to figure out ways to adapt to changes, make a car that behaves vastly different on the track, and limit the same cookie cutter tracks that allow say a Texas car to run fine at Charlotte or Chicago.
 
It was such a minor change even. With the reduced HP and reduced downforce, they were able to break the track record. Something that no one expected but when you make changes that allow the cars to run almost flat out, they're going to run faster. The only way things are going to get shaken up at this point is if they go back to legitimate stock cars.
 
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It was such a minor change even. With the reduced HP and reduced downforce, they were able to break the track record. Something that no one expected but when you make changes that allow the cars to run almost flat out, they're going to run faster. The only way things are going to get shaken up at this point is if they go back to legitimate stock cars.
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Or at least use the shells of legitimate stock cars and do what V8 Supercars does.

The rest can be completely performance built to say 5.0, or 5.5 and then you can open it up to other manufactures that build cars in the U.S. of A so you can still claim to be full of 'Murica spirit. And everyone is happy. Throw in a few more road courses (a lot more) like we've been saying for years now.
 
GTPorsche
It was such a minor change even. With the reduced HP and reduced downforce, they were able to break the track record. Something that no one expected but when you make changes that allow the cars to run almost flat out, they're going to run faster. The only way things are going to get shaken up at this point is if they go back to legitimate stock cars.
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Stock cars in NASCAR...Shirley you jest :D
 
Here is how I would change things.

Tracks - The schedule would be made up of 60% ovals and 40% road courses with a stipulation that any track hosting a second race must run a different configuration than the first race.

Tuning - There would be no regulations regarding tuning so long as nothing is removed or added to the car.

Cars - Would use the entire body from the road going car based on a spec safety cell. Manufacturers and teams would have complete freedom to change things like suspension and brakes.

Tires - There would once again be tire competition.

Granted, there is a better chance of the entire world embracing in a group hug than any of these happening, but a man can dream.:lol:
 
Why don't we make this real simple: all teams must purchase their cars straight from the rental lots...and Boys Have At It! I like you idea about 40% road courses though.
 
I would cut the NASCAR schedule to 24 races. 2 plate races. 6 mile and 1/2 or longer ovals. 8 tracks 1 mile or less. 8 Road courses.
 

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