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I don't care how much stick I get for this, because it's frustrated me for so long. This 'park it on the apex and deliberately run someone off' crap is becoming more and more popular, and it's the downright laziest, most half-hearted and cheap way of getting it done. I've grown up around circuit racing of every shape and size, and regardless of the series, it's general racing etiquette to actually try and leave some room for a car on the outside no matter how far alongside you are. I'm glad the stewards were willing to stand up to it. If you tried that in F3 you'd be kicked all the way up to the clerk of the course. It's not proper racecraft, it never has been, and it shouldn't be now.
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Well said. It's an amateur move and has no place in this level of racing.
 
I hope ricci wont kill his tires near the end of the race.

He has been pushing on SS tires.
 
Nice scrap between Perez and Alonso! Masterful slipstreaming by Alonso there, but Perez just had so much more drive...

Wish I could say the race up front was as interesting...
 
Good win for Hamilton... too bad things went all pear-shaped for Nico...

I wonder, however, if his clash with Hamilton in Austria influenced the stewards in this race? Are the stewards more conscious of his actions because of the similarity of the two incidents?
 
Samus
Yet another strategy cock up by Williams.
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Williams being Williams

yabiggoose
Anyone else bored to death at Hamilton constantly winning?
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Nah


Also unpopular opinion I think, but the Nico Verstappen incident I have to agree with @niky. I think the steward are more conscious of Nico after that bad move he pulled in Austria. However, likewise after many drivers have talked about Max's style when battling for track position, that too should have taken some account. I'd say 50/50 but maybe 40/60, either way two late moves.

I'd have to see it again to be absolute, but I do feel that Max does have a style where, it's either you or him that wont be going forward if the pass is made. I think the influence of how dynamic he is and liked by the paddock may also be a reason that sees him go unpunished or even investigated
 
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Not convinced Rosberg shoved Max out wide, he made an aggressive move but Max could see that the gap had gone and he still went for it which is why he found himself off the track.
 
I'm not comfortable with the way Max defends, moving in the braking zone like that is asking for trouble, however I'm not sure if Rosberg would of been more inside the track if Max didn't do it though.

But the penalty wasn't warranted Imo.
 
Peasantslayer
Not convinced Rosberg shoved Max out wide, he made an aggressive move but Max could see that the gap had gone and he still went for it which is why he found himself off the track.
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Went for what? Where was he to go? Rosberg was the one doing the overtaking.
 
Peasantslayer
Not convinced Rosberg shoved Max out wide, he made an aggressive move but Max could see the gap had gone and still went for a move that wasn't on.
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Watching the post-race analysis, it seems like Nico's claim that he was on it was true... Nico was pushed inside when Max swerved at him under braking... which means his tires were loaded up, causing him to hit the apex early and understeer a bit wide... Max was already behind, but chose to come back up on the outside.

In this case, Rosberg had full rights to the corner and Max was trying to come back up on the outside.

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As with Max versus Kimi, Max's movement under braking came very late into the corner, leaving the following driver little time to react. This is something the stewards should look at. Max leaves enough room, yes, but the closing speeds and follow distance mean that it's only a matter of time before he gets into a big one with these antics.
 
niky
In this case, Rosberg had full rights to the corner and Max was trying to come back up on the outside.
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Still, we've all been very keen on allowing the other driver track room when overtaking. I think this was a tough call. Rosberg didn't turn til way after the apex, that was either deliberate or accidental. That results in two possible scenarios;

1) Rosberg deliberately turned late and pushed a driver off to make/keep a place.
2) Rosberg accidentally turned late and pushed a driver off to make/keep a place.

I think some penalty has to be given - the alternative for Verstappen was to stay on the track and put Rosberg in the position of causing an avoidable collision. I think the penalty was relatively minor for the on-paper offence (it was Merc who messed up the timing of the stop later) and I think it was the right one.
 
Samus
Went for what? Where was he to go? Rosberg was the one doing the overtaking.
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He applied the throttle to try and make the run around the outside work after watching Rosberg go deep but it was too late, he should have backed out or cut back on Rosberg.
 

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