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Jahgee

DW's on board with pit road speed limiters in cars
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Alright guys, we can cut the DW ragging. This is the single smartest thing I've heard this season so far. Also, why hasn't NASCAR done this yet, what with all the fancy new pit monitors or the fact that pit penalties have ruined races for years. (Montoya at Indy especially. The ONLY time I recall where I was dissapointed that Jimmie won:/)
 
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Good god, I'm finally not the only one that noticed that during fox coverage. Seriously, you can't throw a stone without at least one Micheal Waltrip touch (and only on Chris for some reason. He might want to get far way :lol:).
 
I've been for pit speed limiter for years now, but none of you agree until someone in tbe sport brings it up?

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I don't see why a limiter is a bad idea, they can still get caught speeding entering and exiting if they're too late pushing it or too early releasing it (which is most speeding penalties anyway). Sure when they are speeding it's only decimals over the limit usually but we are talking about the safety of potentially 240 people in the pit lane here.
 
Blood Eagle
If the lower class regulars can't beat a sprint cup regular the'll get run over in Cup and be mid 30s racers like most of them end up anyways. Xfinity would fold without Cup drivers.
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So now less experienced drivers are legit expected to beat their superiors immediately in the second tier, before they're fully developed yet?

If anything, the Cup drivers' increased presence in Xfinity has clearly been a major contributor on the shallow talent pool we've recently had. With Cup drivers taking up too many good seats, the regulars barely get any chances against them, thus many of them never get to learn how to win races, and the career more often than not turns into a dead end.
 
Blood Eagle
I still think it should be in the hands of the driver. I really don't care how drivers or anyone else feels about it.
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Adamgp
I think it should be left to the drivers.
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It would be, with the push of a button. Drivers in series with pit limiters still get busted for speeding on pitlane due to not pushing the button soon enough or too soon depending on enter/exit. It's still in the driver's hands and it removes the grey area due to human error.
 
GTPorsche
It would be, with the push of a button. Drivers in series with pit limiters still get busted for speeding on pitlane due to not pushing the button soon enough or too soon depending on enter/exit. It's still in the driver's hands and it removes the grey area due to human error.
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I mean left fully to the drivers to monitor rpm and throttle to regulate speed. Not push a button and bounce it off the limiter down pit road.
 
Leave it to the drivers to keep speed in check, not a button.

What next? Automatic transmissions to prevent missed shifts? AWD and traction control to prevent spinning tires on restarts?
 
Adamgp
Leave it to the drivers to keep speed in check, not a button.

What next? Automatic transmissions to prevent missed shifts? AWD and traction control to prevent spinning tires on restarts?
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How about a limiter that's only slightly above the maximum speed allowed, so drivers still have to watch it but they can't get to a dangerous level of speed on pit road
 
Jahgee
How about a limiter that's only slightly above the maximum speed allowed, so drivers still have to watch it but they can't get to a dangerous level of speed on pit road
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Why have a limiter at all then.

They don't do dangerous speeds on pit road now unless it is to avoid a wreck.
 
GTPorsche
I've been for pit speed limiter for years now, but none of you agree until someone in tbe sport brings it up?

Amazing...
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No some of us agree, just like we agree with more road course for diversity, better points distribution, and other international racing type things that NASCAR should adopt. Rather than being an oddball and coming up with bs like...caution clocks.
 
Adamgp
Why have a race at all then.
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That's a bit extreme, I mean GTPorshce was a bit as well. I think the point is that even the slightest fraction or error as has been seen many times gets you a penalty. And with a system that you calibrate to the radar would allow to easily avoid tons of drivers as seen at certain tracks getting hit with it for going half a mile or one over. You're matching with the rev limiter which is extremely hard even for the best and tedious. And if that's the case why not have a computer do it.

You know the conservative attitude for the sport is the issue at times, many old time fans would have probably never wanted to see things like EFI, Power steering, digital gauges and so on, but such measures improve the quality of racing and at times safety. I don't see why it's a bad thing to want this too.
 
So let me get this straight. You want to have team install a system on every car that limits the speeds on pit road, which would, for starters, raise the cost of running a car even more for underfunded teams, in turn making the fields on Sunday even smaller? How many speeding penalties do we even see a rafe? Five, max? And it's not even like they're THAT far over the speed limit. Heck, most only go over by sheer fractions of one MPH.

Instead of causing multiple problems by fixing one, fix one without making any more. Leave the limiters off the car, and just have the teams go out to the car once it's come to a complete stop. No moving car = less guys jumping infront of it = less guys being hit. Also, keep the crew behind the pit box/on top until it's an actual cycle of stops is started.

Plus, if you're even dumb enough to speed down pit road at say, 100 MPH, you deserve to be kicked out of the sport.

I can see having one in the Truck series, but in the full level of Cup? I'm sorry, but if you can't slow your car down, that's your own fault. Shoukd have found a better braking point.
 
Is there any rule saying they can't have a pit limiter? If so, why mandate if they already can?

Edit - Seems they are banned. It wouldn't bother me if they allowed them but don't think it should be mandated.
 
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