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Finally saw the race yesterday. It was Fantastic! Shame that it had to end under yellow.
It felt shorter than most indycar races for some reason. Maybe it's just me.

Also, I have a question about wave arounds. In NASCAR, it's made clear all the time that the first car 1 lap down during a caution is allowed to drive around and make his lap back up. But it's never talked about in Indycar how wave around procedures work. Juan Pablo Montoya lost a lap or 2 when his tire went down, but it was never explained how he got back on the lead lap by the end of race. (Unless they did and I totally missed it)
 
Finally saw the race yesterday. It was Fantastic! Shame that it had to end under yellow.
It felt shorter than most indycar races for some reason. Maybe it's just me.

Also, I have a question about wave arounds. In NASCAR, it's made clear all the time that the first car 1 lap down during a caution is allowed to drive around and make his lap back up. But it's never talked about in Indycar how wave around procedures work. Juan Pablo Montoya lost a lap or 2 when his tire went down, but it was never explained how he got back on the lead lap by the end of race. (Unless they did and I totally missed it)
There isn't a free pass system, but because most of the cautions happened during pit stops, those that had pit before got the typical wavearound during everyone else's pit stop.
 
Next weekend is the Long Beach Grand Prix. I am not sure whether it was 1999 or 2000 that I first saw the Long Beach GP. I don't recall seeing the 1999 race because it was the (then) CART race at the old Rio de Janeiro oval where a young fellow named Juan Pablo Montoya was making plenty of noise in the series then. And that was the first race since the 1998 Grand Prix of Houston that I saw.

When it comes to Long Beach, this track offers a great deal of challenge on a very compelling race track. Long Beach used to be a Formula 1 stop in its history, and on a much longer configuration than today's Long Beach. It's a great looking course and a great challenge. Maybe the Long Beach GP I remember most is the final one when Champ Car and IndyCar decided to merge again, and also the same weekend Danica Patrick won her first and only win in IndyCar at Motegi.

If you've never seen Long Beach, I think you're in for a special experience when the 2016 race happens next weekend. So get ready for this race next weekend.
 
:D:DTickets for Indy 500 came yesterday!:D:D
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Sittin' in the South Vista! Middle of turns 1 and 2!
 

I agree almost 100%, ChampCar was really exciting in its glory years, though was dominated by Ganassi, it was still great to see other chassis mixing it up, and seeing teams like Penske build their own chassis and the Dan Gurney Eagle chassis cutting laps competitively from time to time proved that North America can produce road course chassis, though I dont think adding another chassis or engine manufacturer is the right move for IndyCar currently, not until they have a major chassis and engine rule book overhaul, the financial climate for IndyCar is a little to delicate for that,
 
Paul Tracy, just...THANK YOU! 👍 👍 👍 👍 I can't stand the Honda camp. They whine and whine and whine but never try to FIX the problem, all they did was copy bits from Chevy. Honda and its teams are stupid though, of course they're slower that "Chevy"...because Penske and Ganassi account for 8(!) cars om the flipping grid! Not to mention the only actual large multi-cat team Honda has is Andretti. Honda needs to stuff it, and deal with it. Get the car fast enough to beat Chevy, that's your job Honda. Not to moan about obvious facts.
 
Honda has its hands full building up success in F-1. Indy Car is an aside at this point......

Hope it decides which to actually succeed in.....
 
Honda has its hands full building up success in F-1. Indy Car is an aside at this point......

Hope it decides which to actually succeed in.....
HPD is in charge of Indycar, Honda Japan is only in charge of the McLaren's engine no? But yes they are quite busy overall.
 
One thing to remember here is all of nonsense about Indy started last year when Chevy brought aero kits designed by the Wright Bros. and they were practically flipping over leaving the pits. Honda never wanted the domed skids in the first place because their car worked just fine w/o them.

Here is a great picture from Racer.com comments section of what a domed skid is, and how well it works. It is the rust colored thing on the bottom.:O

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Maybe PT smells a opportunity in a race car at Penske since they are now hiring fat, old drivers. :lol:

I love PT but I have to question his motives here...
 
So how exactly is the dome skid supposed to stop cars from taking off?
 
Exactly. I've got zero pitty for HPD. They have weak teams, and a weak engine/aero package. Stop crying and FIX THE STUPID THING HONDA.

The big issue is that they really can't until next year due to Indycar's "Tokens & Boxes" policy. If HPD could do whatever they wanted, when they wanted to solve what was wrong with their aero kit then they probably wouldn't be complaining as much.

The bigger question mark in my mind is whether the Honda runners are really using a mildly-modified engine (Or a "No Tokens" engine) from last year or not, because if they are Chevrolet teams are going to romp to wins on Ovals and on the faster road courses like Road America, because a rumored 40HP deficit is a lot to try and make up for.
 
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Reading into this, based purely on what actually is mentioned and who is interviewed... it's clear that of the Honda drivers mentioned in the article, it's Andretti who has the major issue with the Chevrolet teams' apparent sandbagging. It's not mentioned at all whether any of the other Honda drivers, including his teammate (RHR) feel that way.

I don't necessarily think that both cars are on equal footing (Chevy is more than likely faster, and have been for a few years) but it's odd for just one driver to be saying these statements when according to the article there isn't anyone else saying these things.
The speed charts for practice/qualifying this year like the one above don't seem to show a big performance difference, favoring neither Honda nor Chevrolet; it does look rather evenly split... until the race starts, but I find that more to be related to the teams themselves and how they are structured - Penske and Ganassi are on a different level of efficiency and ability than what the rest of the teams on either side can offer, it's just that both run Chevys now (I recall Ganassi running Hondas, although I could be mistaken) and due to their level of preparation they really are the teams to beat (moreso Penske than Ganassi).

I could be reading too deeply into this (I probably am) but... it's just... weird for Marco to call the Chevy drivers/teams out.
 
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