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Didn't Wheldon's head hit a pole on the catch fence?
Sadly a one in a million accident probably.
Sadly a one in a million accident probably.
I'm not denying that driver safety is an issue here. You are correct in saying that you cannot assume that car and regulation changes have completely eliminated the problem - but at the same time, you cannot assume that they have done nothing to fix the problem.
I didn't say or assume they have done nothing - I did say that there has barely been anytime to fully investigate and research the kind of safety improvements that would help.
It wasn't until 2003 that motorsport started mandating the use of the HANS device - and it was invented 2 decades prior! It took several famous fatalaties before people started taking it seriously and even then it took several years of research for the officials to decide it was worth using.
I truly hate how people talk like all is well merely months after a death in the sport. Clearly, something is very wrong and I do not believe enough can be done in just a few months to even understand how to prevent similar accidents.
It just seems like a "watch it anyway and hope for the best that it doesn't happen again" kind of view to me.
Lets put a new slant on it then:
If you experience yet another fatality this year on an Oval, what would you say then?
Lets put a new slant on it then:
If you experience yet another fatality this year on an Oval, what would you say then?
(Not trying to cause an argument, just trying to debate)
Marco Simoncelli
Guido Falaschi
Gustavo Sondermann
Paulo Kunze
The only thing wrong with Indyars on ovals is running on ovals designed for side by side running NASCARS.
Indycars have raced on ovals since before either you or me was born and, yes it is dangerous, but that's Motor Racing for you. It will continue after this.
What happened to Wheldon was a deeply terrible set of circumstances that you probably couldn't recreate even if you wanted to.
It will not stop me watching Indycars on ovals.
You know what would be a weird concept? An oval, but a longer turn, but it has sand on the high side. Probably would be impossible. Would be havoc with rain too.
Lets draw a prototype![]()
The only way that would be possible would be if the circuit was flat, or had a concave shape. If you had a conventional oval with sand on the high side, all that you will achieve is a sandy track surface as gravity takes effect.You know what would be a weird concept? An oval, but a longer turn, but it has sand on the high side. Probably would be impossible. Would be havoc with rain too.
Mind = Blown
But they fit better racing on low-banked ovals like Indy IMO.
The problem with a concave shape is the roll over the surface - it would be very easy to launch a car into the air if the angle between the low banking and the flat lane on the high side was all wrong. At the very least, you would need some kind of ground effect.Very clever^
KV Racing Technology@TonyKanaan leaves pits for the first time and stalls, @rubarrichello says "last time I get advice on car from TK" haha
Funny tweet from KV team:
KV Racing Technology@TonyKanaan leaves pits for the first time and stalls, @rubarrichello says "last time I get advice on car from TK" haha
Motor racing does not equal death. I refuse to watch a sport if death is at all likely (note: I say likely, not possible..death is nearly always possible). Oval racing with open cockpit cars is always going to be more immediately dangerous than on a race circuit, street track or "road course". Yes, the type of oval for Wheldon contributed greatly along with several other factors. But even so, similar factors affect all oval racing - the fact that cars generally come back across the traffic after crashing has always been my main concern. On a race circuit, making a mistake in a corner leads to a gravel trap or a run-off area. And at a street circuit the speeds are usually quite low that even if the cars come back across the track, the accidents are much less likely to be fatal (though places like Macau can be a little crazy) as well as giving more time for drivers to react.
There are a number of other factors in oval racing that I don't like with open cockpit cars but basically its the much higher potential for a nasty accident. It is that that dissuades me, just as it does with MotoGP. As I said, Wheldon's accident has only pushed me into actually deciding not to watch anymore, before that I was on the fence.
There is no reason why I should choose to accept death as part of the sport or a possiblity of the sport. I don't tune in to watch the drivers/riders almost risk death or defy death. I tune in to watch some good racing action, at the limit of their cars but with adequate safety.
I'm not sure I can ever really trust oval racing to be safe enough for Indycars. Maybe I'll come back to it in a few years.
For now I will probably stick to watching the road courses, fortunately the calendar is full of them this year.
But his head ended up hitting a pole on the catch fence, he could've been okay if he didn't I think.