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Yes. Every time I click on a full Indycar race on youtube. :banghead:

It is a brilliant way to lose an audience. :dunce:
 
Tired Tyres
Yes. Every time I click on a full Indycar race on youtube. :banghead:

It is a brilliant way to lose an audience. :dunce:
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It's Indy Car, they pretty much started the whole trend.. They still aren't doing themselves any favours sadly,.
 
Which videos and countries are you guys talking about?

I've never had problems with the (Full Race) videos uploaded by NARLtv but I'm not sure if that's because I'm in Canada or...

Just checked and it appears that the Full Races by INDYCAR (official) don't work in Canada either.

Try the NARLtv links and see if they work.
 
Falcon787B
On a slightly different tack to the ongoing discussion...

*sees Indycars Youtube channel has uploaded recent races in full for people who can't watch it live, presumably those being outside of the US.*

Ah awesome! I'll sit down and catch up on some Indycars! How kind of them to put races up on Youtube for those who can't watch it live in other countries!

*The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that. :/*

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Anyone else notice this?
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Tired Tyres
Yes. Every time I click on a full Indycar race on youtube. :banghead:

It is a brilliant way to lose an audience. :dunce:
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Mac K
It's Indy Car, they pretty much started the whole trend.. They still aren't doing themselves any favours sadly,.
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Rights issue, no doubt about it. Sky will have something in their contract that stops Indycar from allowing UK users to view the content posted on youtube.
 
353 Hemi
Which videos and countries are you guys talking about?

I've never had problems with the (Full Race) videos uploaded by NARLtv but I'm not sure if that's because I'm in Canada or...

Just checked and it appears that the Full Races by INDYCAR (official) don't work in Canada either.

Try the NARLtv links and see if they work.
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Excellent, so much love for the guys who upload races, be they Indycar, ALMS, NASCAR or whatever. 99% of all of these races I can never watch, so I really appreciate those guys efforts. I'll hunt down NARLtv's links - I've seen him post NASCAR races too :)

ASH32
Rights issue, no doubt about it. Sky will have something in their contract that stops Indycar from allowing UK users to view the content posted on youtube.
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^^^And here we have one of the many reasons I hate Sky.
 
ASH32
Rights issue, no doubt about it. Sky will have something in their contract that stops Indycar from allowing UK users to view the content posted on youtube.
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Falcon787B
^^^And here we have one of the many reasons I hate Sky.
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But it does de-value the product. If you sell your license to your series to a TV company and then go and distribute it yourself for free, can you imagine said TV company being happy about that?

Its the exact same reason why F1 is also repeatedly taken down from youtube when and where the FOM find it. They are obliged to after they have sold the TV rights.
 
Point taken Ardius. But I would argue that wouldn't that be the same for the US TV companies they've sold the rights to? So shouldn't it be on Youtube at all?

I can understand if it's not there at all, like F1 or NASCAR or BTCC or any other sports where vids are routinely taken off YT. But why then does Indycars put up races on Youtube only to restrict their access? Hence my beef with Sky, because you'd have to say it's Sky putting something in their end of the deal that the US TV companies didn't. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this btw, I'm more curious than deliberately annoyed. There's plenty of other reasons for me to dislike SKY anyway, but that's another point altogether 👍 haha!
 
I'd rather they raced at COTA than Barber for example but there's still a lot of other possible tracks that already exist. I saw rumours months ago (can't remember sources unfortunately) that they were considering/trying to bring IndyCar back to Laguna Seca which to be honest, I would prefer.
 
Laguna Seca would be follow the leader parades with these cars.

Texas Motor Speedway, Houston and COTA – hmm… :lol:

Personally, I would prefer a more diverse schedule with suitable ovals than another road course. I’d love for Pocono, Richmond and Phoenix to return. I like road/street courses, its just that the DW12 has produced excellent oval races in my opinion. I want to see more of them.
 
From the old races I've seen the action was always good at Laguna, I mean CART raced there for about 20 years so they must have been doing something right.
 
Found this at trackforum.Milwaukee mile should be back in its traditional date after Indy,Belle Isle should be replaced with with Road America,and it would be nice to get Phoenix back but the only time that fits is October (NASCAR chase race) so that wont happen.

March 24 Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg
April 7 Honda Grand Prix of Alabama, Barber Motorsport Park
April 14 Grand Prix of Austin, Circuit of the Americas
April 21 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach
April 28 Itaipava Sao Paulo Indy 300
May 26 Indy 500, Indianapolis Motor Speedway
June 2 Chevrolet Grand Prix of Belle Isle
June 8 Firestone 550k Texas Motor Speedway
June 15 Indyfest @ The Milwaukee Mile
June 22 Iowa Corn 250 Iowa Motor Speedway
July 7 Honda Grand Prix of Toronto
July 14 Michigan 400, Michigan International Speedway
July 22 Grand Prix of Edmonton
August 4 Honda Grand Prix of Ohio, Mid-Ohio
August 18 GoPro Indy Grand Prix of Sonoma
Sept. 1 Grand Prix of Baltimore
Sept. 15 Pocono Indy 500, Pocono Speedway
Oct. 6 Shell Grand Prix of Houston
Oct. 13 MAVtv 500, Autoclub Speedway

Bold: Date and Event confirmed
Underlined: New Event
 
prisonermonkeys
I've brought this line of discussion over from the Circuit of the Americas thread:

In addition to Formula 1, V8 Supercars, American Le Mans and MotoGP, COTA organisers have made it known that they also want Indycar on their bill from 2013.
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Am I the only one who's kinda lukewarm over the COTA? It just strikes me as another generic Hermann Tilke-drome, and completely unnecessary in a country with such huge racing pedigree and already existing amazing race circuits?

Still, the more venues the merrier I guess. Just as long as COTA doesn't replace existing awesome race venues and weekends, I'm happy with that :)

/rant over, and back on topic :dunce:
 
Falcon787B
Am I the only one who's kinda lukewarm over the COTA? It just strikes me as another generic Hermann Tilke-drome, and completely unnecessary in a country with such huge racing pedigree and already existing amazing race circuits?

Still, the more venues the merrier I guess. Just as long as COTA doesn't replace existing awesome race venues and weekends, I'm happy with that :)

/rant over, and back on topic :dunce:
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I won't make my final judgement until the track is 100 percent complete, but I tend to agree with everything you just said..
 
Falcon787B
Am I the only one who's kinda lukewarm over the COTA? It just strikes me as another generic Hermann Tilke-drome, and completely unnecessary in a country with such huge racing pedigree and already existing amazing race circuits?
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I would prefer this over having one of the existing racetracks being torn apart just to meet F1 standards. I already don't like the fact that for instance, Watkins Glen has most of its sandtraps removed (which in my opinion encourages mistakes and more unnecessary aggressive driving rather then discouraging any of it) so I'd just flat out hate it if it was torn apart and made even less of a riskier track then it already is.
 
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Yes, if they went to pretty much any American track, they would have to butcher it for F1.

EDIT: Also, YES POCONO! Might try to go to that one.
 
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Falcon787B
Am I the only one who's kinda lukewarm over the COTA? It just strikes me as another generic Hermann Tilke-drome, and completely unnecessary in a country with such huge racing pedigree and already existing amazing race circuits?

Still, the more venues the merrier I guess. Just as long as COTA doesn't replace existing awesome race venues and weekends, I'm happy with that :)

/rant over, and back on topic :dunce:
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IMO, the first sector isn't too bad, but the second's a typical Tilke design (long straight, hairpin, long straight), and the last section's just awful with no flow whatsoever.
 
Falcon787B
Am I the only one who's kinda lukewarm over the COTA? It just strikes me as another generic Hermann Tilke-drome, and completely unnecessary in a country with such huge racing pedigree and already existing amazing race circuits?
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It wasn't designed by Hermann Tilke.

It was designed by Tavo Hellmund - the man who got the project off the ground in the first place - and Kevin Schwantz, who was the 1993 500cc Motorcycle World Champion. Tilke then had one of his engineers work on taking their basic design and fitting it into the FIA Grade-1 guidelines whilst changing as little of the circuit as possible. Tilke GmbH's civil engineering arm are the ones overseeing the construction project (which they have done for every circuit they have designed except for the one in South Korea).
 
Tilke GmbH is a civil engineering firm. They design racing circuits, and they build racing circuits. As a rule, they tend to do both - Tilke GmbH oversees the construction of every circuit they design, mostly because they have connections that other people don't (for example, the gravel used in the bitumen has to be of a certain FIA-approved standard, and there are only one or two companies in Germany that produce it; Tilke knows them, so they can quickly get gravel for the tarmac). However, for reasons that I have never found out, they designed the circuit in Korea, but did not oversee construction.

Hermann Tilke is not the only person employed by Tilke GmbH. He designs most of the circuits, but he did not personally design the Circuit of the Americas. That was done by Hellmund and Schwantz, and Tilke had one of his engineers take their final draft and fit it to the FIA regulations on circuit design.
 
Ardius
I think you need to explain this a bit clearer...as you confusingly contradict that in the same post:
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I think what the monkey is trying to say is that Tavo Hellmund already had the track laid out in his head before the Tilke boys came on board. Proof of this is the sketch dated in 2007 from Tavo.

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Having seen the track from it's early days developed into what we see now I have to say, this is going to be a fantastic track for both driver and fan. 👍
 
Blaze_409
What happened to Pagenaud in qualy? No time?
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Hit the wall in the chicane in the first group and took too long to repair, like about 4 other cars did. IndyCar has to do something about that chicane, I was there last year and near Baltimore today. The cars are getting airborne every time they go over.
 
The wall is terribly angled too, if you turn left too much coming out of that chicane, you'll hit it head-on. That's incredibly dangerous.
 
ALMS was having problems today at that chicane and on the whole track in general, especially the prototypes, so it'll be interesting to see how the Indy Cars make out.. Still looking forward to the race.
 
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