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prisonermonkeys
The plan would have ultimately called for a permanent circuit - possibly an oval - being built in Qingdao. The idea behind having a street circuit to begin with was to build local interest and establish a presence so that by the time the permanent circuit was ready, the series could simply transition straight to it.

One assumes that this plan called for a better model than the promotion of the Chinese Grand Prix. Shanghai joined the Formula 1 calendar in 2004, but it has only been in the last few years that the event has actually started to attract a substantial crowd.
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Why couldn't they just use a track that already exists and has a crowd? I would think that would be alot faster for attract fans using an already established track then starting from scratch, that and I honestly find most street circuits just don't work. I have no idea how or why places like Monaco and Long Beach work (or even Toronto), but everything else just seems like it fails miserably one way or another.
 
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Why couldn't they just use a track that already exists and has a crowd?
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I think the race was taking place with the support of the Chinese government. Maybe not at a federal level, but certainly at a provincial level. The local government probably saw Indycar as a chance to get a bit of growth going. And some of the better teams in various Chinese sports leagues - like Jonoon FC - are based in Qingdao; the planned circuit was going to be run around the Jonoon FC stadium.

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I have no idea how or why places like Monaco and Long Beach work (or even Toronto), but everything else just seems like it fails miserably one way or another.
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They've been holding races for decades, that's why.
 
prisonermonkeys
I think the race was taking place with the support of the Chinese government. Maybe not at a federal level, but certainly at a provincial level. The local government probably saw Indycar as a chance to get a bit of growth going. And some of the better teams in various Chinese sports leagues - like Jonoon FC - are based in Qingdao; the planned circuit was going to be run around the Jonoon FC stadium.
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So this was more of a move to stimulate growth of that particular town or district?


prisonermonkeys
They've been holding races for decades, that's why.
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True enough they have history as a huge advantage, but they had to start somewhere. What I'm wonder is what kept them going as long as they have, what kept fans coming back from year 1 to now.
 
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True enough they have history as a huge advantage, but they had to start somewhere. What I'm wonder is what kept them going as long as they have, what kept fans coming back from year 1 to now.
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Well I think clearly the environment has a lot to do with it when it comes to Monaco and Long Beach. At Monaco you've got the glitz and glamour along with the fact the cars are speeding along the side of the harbour with beautiful scenery and at Long Beach you've got a similar thing; it's quite dramatic and glamorous because it's in the state of California and it's right by the sea.
 
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So this was more of a move to stimulate growth of that particular town or district?
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From the Chinese perspective, yes. Indycar wanted to go to China, and instigated the round. Qingdao wanted to stimulate growth. It was a symboitic relationship, until things broke down.
 
indycar.com is down.

I was going to check on the start time for the race, but it's giving me a 403 error.
 
Will be nice once Indycar's contract with ESPN/ABC is up. It doesn't help the series get recognition when two events in a row are kicked off of national television for local news and NASCAR's Nationwide Series.

👎 to ESPN/ABC's coverage.
 
Looks like Road America might be the best option. ALMS has a race scheduled there for the weekend that Indycar is interested in.
 
Ha. That first video with the 3 hours coverage of the race is not available in my country. :ouch:

No wonder Indycar is struggling for viewers. They clearly don't want any. :dunce:
 
Unfortunately, that has to do with TV contracts which are out of IndyCar's control.
 
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Ha. That first video with the 3 hours coverage of the race is not available in my country. :ouch:

No wonder Indycar is struggling for viewers. They clearly don't want any. :dunce:
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I beg to differ! They are slowly getting more interesting to me because there is few ways to follow the action compared to other motorsports I follow. They upload races, practice, qualifying all to YouTube all within a day or two of the race.

The problem I have anymore is having to find a stream because I basically only have basic cable with NBC/Fox/ABC not Speed/ESPN/NBCsports so miss alot.
 
What was the reasoning for bringing back push to pass? The racing was fine without it earlier in the year.
 
Tired Tyres
Ha. That first video with the 3 hours coverage of the race is not available in my country. :ouch:

No wonder Indycar is struggling for viewers. They clearly don't want any. :dunce:
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If you search the race up on youtube you'll find someone else has probably already put it up. It'll be 2 or 3 days after the race happens, but that's how I've been watching this years IndyCar season.
 
Pagenaud in the Top 6. not surprised at all!


If indy cars were all Road Courses. It would be the Power-Pagenaud show..
 
Blaze_409
Pagenaud in the Top 6. not surprised at all!

If indy cars were all Road Courses. It would be the Power-Pagenaud show..
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Not really.

Mostly it is road courses. And Power hasn't won in a while.
 
Blaze_409
Pagenaud in the Top 6. not surprised at all!


If indy cars were all Road Courses. It would be the Power-Pagenaud show..
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I believe RHR and Castroneves would like to have a word with you.
 
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