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I don't like the limits on generic bodywork, and I don't like how each manufacturer is restricted to a certain chassis. That's too tight of a rules package. We're going to see everyone pick the best chassis after the first year or two anyway.
 
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I think that IMSA is dropping the ball here with mandating the requirement that manufacturers have to produce the custom bodywork in order to have their engines in the class. Adding that cost to the fee they have to pay just to race is silly.

I would find it much more sensible to at least open the door for cars to run the generic bodywork in lieu of the manufacturer bodywork, and instead restrict to each engine to a single chassis at least (I.E. You can only run the Cadillac engine in a Dallara, with or without the bodywork). But straight up saying that you have to have custom bodywork to run really kills the potential for this class to shine.
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Yeah forcing the bodywork is dumb, they should allow stock bodywork as well so if a manufacturer doesn't want to break the bank, they can just stuff an engine in a stock LMP2. Hopefully this won't ruin the class before it even starts.
 
I think I'll hold judgement until I see how the rule change impacts the P counts next year. It's kind of hard to make a guess on the bodywork rule's impact when the majority of teams are running DPs at the moment anyway and several manufacturers are still in limbo with whether they will or will not race next year.
 
I think much like the GTD class this year it's a little too early to make a call on the future of the class.
 
Northstar
I think much like the GTD class this year it's a little too early to make a call on the future of the class.
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Course that was just entry fees to allow selling of GT3's, the ransom I mean. :p This is a regulation thing, but it may indeed turn out the same yes.
 
catamount39
This is a regulation thing, but it may indeed turn out the same yes.
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I look at it like this, with the way the regulations are set-up regarding factory teams it's very possible WSCC DPi could turn into a sort of LMP1/LMP2 hybrid.

Admittedly I'm trying to be glass half full about racing since lately the sanctioning bodies of pretty much every series have lost their collective minds.
 
Northstar
Admittedly I'm trying to be glass half full about racing since lately the sanctioning bodies of pretty much every series have lost their collective minds.
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That's something to worry about since the France family does indeed have a hand in IMSA. I fear that sooner or later they will get their stupidity in NASCAR to transfer over to IMSA events. Hopefully, smarter heads prevail as they currently are, but since NASCAR is going to hell.....
 
AnthonyD1993
That's something to worry about since the France family does indeed have a hand in IMSA. I fear that sooner or later they will get their stupidity in NASCAR to transfer over to IMSA events. Hopefully, smarter heads prevail as they currently are, but since NASCAR is going to hell.....
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Caution Clocks. :lol:
 
Speaking of cautions, I really hope IMSA speeds up the caution procedure, ~15-20 minutes for a stalled car should take less than 10 minutes and no pit window laps. (Aka do what WEC does with the safety car, where it's only out to keep marshalls and drivers safe, and when the danger is gone, it goes in the pits).
 
I love the idea of just calling up Ferrari or Porsche and ordering a GT3 engine to stick in a new P2 car but the reality is this isnt the Gas Monkey garage. Without a OEM's support and $$$ a team would go broke trying to make it work. The variety of the GT3 engine field is great but that variety will also be a huge headache trying to make it work because there is no standard spec. The only two cars that share anything alike are the Audi and Lambo which share the same V10, everybody else uses a different engine package and none of them were designed to fit into the back of a Oreca 05.

MP makes a point about the option of using a Judd,HPD,or Nissan now and the only restriction is your wallet but he missed the fact that the new spec P2 cars are being designed with one engine in mind, the Gibson V8.

The strangest thing about the OEM body/engine deal is if they want to go to Le Mans they will be allowed but have to switch back to the original bodywork so the engineers better make sure they plan ahead and make sure the car will not melt down running stock side pods. My guess is that once the rules are announced there will be a option for the OEM's to run w/o the body kits if they choose to.
 
IforceV8
I love the idea of just calling up Ferrari or Porsche and ordering a GT3 engine to stick in a new P2 car but the reality is this isnt the Gas Monkey garage. Without a OEM's support and $$$ a team would go broke trying to make it work. The variety of the GT3 engine field is great but that variety will also be a huge headache trying to make it work because there is no standard spec. The only two cars that share anything alike are the Audi and Lambo which share the same V10, everybody else uses a different engine package and none of them were designed to fit into the back of a Oreca 05.

MP makes a point about the option of using a Judd,HPD,or Nissan now and the only restriction is your wallet but he missed the fact that the new spec P2 cars are being designed with one engine in mind, the Gibson V8.

The strangest thing about the OEM body/engine deal is if they want to go to Le Mans they will be allowed but have to switch back to the original bodywork so the engineers better make sure they plan ahead and make sure the car will not melt down running stock side pods. My guess is that once the rules are announced there will be a option for the OEM's to run w/o the body kits if they choose to.
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To go to Le Mans, Dont the teams have to run the Gibson power plant as well?
 
600hp is 600hp. :p Probably won't be that different. Also, what's this with "generic bodywork"? I thought that the WEC/ELMS LMP2 was still going to allow the "unique" bodywork between chassis manufactures?

IforceV8
Easy there freedom fries.;)
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I'm sorry but that reminded me of this. :lol: :p :lol:
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IforceV8
Easy there freedom fries.;)
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I'm sure it'll be the same in the states, can't have a generic spec car beating the Manufacturers we're so desperate to have.
 
I am curious to see how much of an improvement the ratings would be if they were shown on Fox instead of FS1 and FS2. I doubt that it would be much (and it wouldn't happen anyway because Fox), but there is a chance that they would be higher in theory because more people have access to the regular channels.
 
AnthonyD1993
I am curious to see how much of an improvement the ratings would be if they were shown on Fox instead of FS1 and FS2. I doubt that it would be much (and it wouldn't happen anyway because Fox), but there is a chance that they would be higher in theory because more people have access to the regular channels.
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It all depends on when the race is aired and what was on before or after the race. For example, the Formula E Putrajaya race only had 60,000 viewers on FOX when aired live early in the morning, but when it was shown tape delayed on FOX after an NFL game, it got a 1.2 overnight rating (over a million people watched).
 
Although I am happy to here about more flag to flag FS1 coverage, I unfortunately will miss the FOX coverage (highlight of the coverage) as I will be at Lime Rock. ;)
Hopefully we can listen to the races we attend this year. Last year, no. Year before that, yes.
They need to drop FS2.

Did you here? http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/gas-monkey-garage-joins-riley-motorsports-at-rolex-24/

Getcha sum of dat! Woah!!! I think that's how it goes.
Now I would like to go to Daytona this year.

 
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Oh look an actual sponsor for a car! That's a neat looking livery. I'll have to get some pictures of the car
 
GTPorsche
Worst Viper ever.
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I'm guessing judging off your reaction to the indycar, you just don't like this sponsor.
 
At least you'll be able to pick that out quickly. Sad to see the CTSCC roster look so slim...hope that's just due to missing the first race. We went from 60+ to 30+. Not surprising to see the Cayman take over half of GS and most of ST...not much manufacturer diversity. Also sad to see one Multimatic mustang instead of two...

They really culled that field unless some folks are just too late to enter...damn. My favourite series too.
 
TheElbows
At least you'll be able to pick that out quickly. Sad to see the CTSCC roster look so slim...hope that's just due to missing the first race. We went from 60+ to 30+. Not surprising to see the Cayman take over half of GS and most of ST...not much manufacturer diversity. Also sad to see one Multimatic mustang instead of two...

They really culled that field unless some folks are just too late to enter...damn. My favourite series too.
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I can't believe how different it is from last year. Last year's grid was amazing, and now look at it. :(
 
So weird to see McAleer and McCumbee in the Freedom Autosports MX-5 next year and also gonna be weird to see Hindman in a Porsche....
 
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