2018/19 Premier League & General Football Discussion

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Does football need video referees?

  • Yes - VAR is a success

  • Yes - The principle is needed but VAR has been badly handled

  • No - VAR was horrible and should not be continued

  • No - Mistakes are part of football

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Seen some reports on Twitter that Antonio Conte is on his way to Madrid...
 
During the Arsenal/Crystal Palace game this morning I would occasionally flip over to the NFL game from London just to see what shape the field would be in. The Wembley grounds staff has their work cut out for them tonight. The middle of the field got chewed up pretty good.
 
During the Arsenal/Crystal Palace game this morning I would occasionally flip over to the NFL game from London just to see what shape the field would be in. The Wembley grounds staff has their work cut out for them tonight. The middle of the field got chewed up pretty good.

Yep, they can't sort it in a day and it's not in a condition fit for football. It will be a miracle if no one gets injured tomorrow and they will likely be complaints from the teams, especially Man City, regardless.
 
Such sad news, what he did for the club and the city was incredible.

RIP Vichai

:(
 


Is it normal for a helicopter to take off from the stadium like that?

Yesterday saw the close of the MLS regular season. The Red Bulls snatched away the Supporter's Shield for best record on the last day. Atlanta had the best record but a loss to Toronto and a 1-0 Red Bulls win over Orlando clinched it for NY. Ibra and the Galaxy lost to Houston ending their chance at the playoffs. Rooney has taken DC from bottom of the East to a playoff berth in his short stint with the club.
 
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The Srivaddhanaprabha have laid flowers at the King Power Stadium and so have the Leicester first team players plus the Academy players.

There will be a minutes silence before the big match tonight between Spurs and Man City and the players will wear Black armbands, and that will be the same for all the EFL cup games this week and the Premier League games this weekend.

Leicester's League cup game at home to Southampton tomorrow night has been postponed.
 
Is it normal for a helicopter to take off from the stadium like that?

I think he had been doing that for quite a while now. Until the investigation is finished we won't truly know what happened but I didn't hear anything stating that the helicopter might have clipped or hit anything on it's way out of the stadium.
 
Currently Man City are winning by 1 touchdown.

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City did end up winning 0-1 on a terrible pitch, Mahrez with the goal which he then dedicated to Srivaddhanaprabha, Mahrez spent four and a half years at Leicester before his move to City in the Summer.

Its fair to say that Lopetegui has had a rough few months!
 
Leicester helicopter deaths are awful... so sad :(

But great to hear Hoddle is making a decent recovery :)

Wembley pitch looked shocking last night - reminded me of pitches in the 70's, in March, after a very hard winter :lol:

Not sure if we'll see Conte at Madrid... read he's making specific signings a condition of joining (specifically, a CH, so he can play his preferred 3 CH formation) , and Perez is not willing to agree. Madrid look like they might struggle for a year or 2 unless they spend some serious €€€'s.
 
That looked like a MLS game.
It definitely did because of the field and the random Phoenix Suns jerseys that City had on.

As someone who watches American football, it was interesting to watch a top-flight, Premier League match on an NFL marked field. I found myself comparing the player speed in my mind while watching the match yesterday. Usually all the NFL lines are colored over here before the soccer game.
 
Leicester's game at Cardiff on Saturday will go ahead as planned.

Dele Alli has signed a new deal at Tottenham until 2024.

Chelsea coach Marco Ianni has been fined £6k for goading Jose Mourinho during the Chelsea-United game a couple of weeks back.
 
It definitely did because of the field and the random Phoenix Suns jerseys that City had on.

As someone who watches American football, it was interesting to watch a top-flight, Premier League match on an NFL marked field. I found myself comparing the player speed in my mind while watching the match yesterday. Usually all the NFL lines are colored over here before the soccer game.

Yeah are those new 3rd jerseys for this year? Phoenix Suns also came to my mind or school safety crossing guards.
 
RIP Vichai :(

My condolences to everybody in Leicester.
 
Carabao Cup quarter final draw

Arsenal v Tottenham
Leicester/Southampton v Man City/Fulham
Middlesbrough v Burton
Chelsea v Bournemouth

Spurs beat West Ham 1-3 just 48 hours after their game v City on Monday night, Arsenal beat Blackpool 2-1, Chelsea beat a brave Derby team 3-2 with all the goals in the first half, Man City v Fulham is tomorrow and Leicester v Southampton I don't think has been rescheduled yet.
 
Games this weekend.

Saturday
Arsenal v Liverpool (5.30 BT)
Bournemouth v Man United (12.30 BT)
Cardiff v Leicester
Everton v Brighton
Newcastle v Watford
West Ham v Burnley
Wolves v Tottenham (7.45 Sky)

Sunday
Chelsea v Crystal Palace (4pm Sky)
Man City v Southampton (3pm)

Monday Night
Huddersfield v Fulham (8pm Sky)
 
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I know the highlight of this weekend is supposed to be Arsenal vs. Liverpool but I think that Monday Huddersfield vs. Fulham game is just as important in the who stays up or goes down scenario.
 
I know the highlight of this weekend is supposed to be Arsenal vs. Liverpool but I think that Monday Huddersfield vs. Fulham game is just as important in the who stays up or goes down scenario.

It is a big game at the bottom but they are both going down if they keep conceding goals like they are doing. Luckily for them though is there are at least five other teams that have pretty big problems too and only three of the six can actually go down, just like last year really and that's the only reason Huddersfield stopped up then too, so they are experienced at this now, although you could argue they won't get as lucky as last year again also.
 
Wayne Rooney is to come out of international retirement to play for England in the friendly vs the USA on November 15th, its a gesture of support of the Wayne Rooney Foundation charity, which stands to benefit from the proceeds of the match.

It will be Rooney's 120th England cap.
 
That was rubbish. Nothing positive about that result. Turned off after the third.
 
Catch up time:

3rd October - Steve Bruce (Aston Villa, sacked) Championship
8th October - Mark Yates (Macclesfield Town, sacked) League Two
10th October - Dean Smith (Brentford, leaves for Aston Villa) Championship
25th October - Paul Hurst (Ipswich Town, sacked) Championship

Sacked - 8
Approaches - 2
Resigned - 1

Total - 11

Interestingly, there was a conveyor belt amongst three clubs pre-season; Ipswich appointed Shrewsbury's Paul Hurst. In turn, Shrewsbury appointed Macclesfield's John Askey and Mark Yates was appointed in his place.

Hurst has been sacked.
Yates has been sacked.
Askey is also under the cosh and might not last much longer.

How unusual is it for clubs who have traded/approached each other's managers to all suffer a terrible start and dismiss them?

Oh, and special mention to Julen Loputegui (Real Madrid, sacked) La Liga. No-one outside of Spain had even heard of the man before June and now he's been sacked from two top jobs inside four months. Congratulations once again to Real Madrid for :censored:ing over the entire country on the eve of the World Cup by appointing a manager behind the Spanish FA's back in a way that he breached his own contract. At least it was totally worth it with the dynasty he's gone on to establish there. :rolleyes:
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European Super League

Anyone heard about this? The long-rumoured breakaway continental division again gained more traction after leaked eMails according to Der Spiegel. It is worth pointing out that Der Spiegel is Germany's equivalent of The Sun despite the name ironically meaning The Mirror. Point being, a 16 team division is touted as having been arranged with 11 permanent teams guaranteed a place for 20 years complemented by 5 'guest' teams who may or may not face relegation or exchange with other invited teams. The 11 teams rumoured to be involved are:

Arsenal
Manchester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Juventus
AC Milan
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Bayern München
Paris SG

Roma, Inter Milan, Atletico Madrid, Borussia Dortmund and Marseille are the initial 5 'guest' teams.

Some thoughts:

a) How incentivising is it to have 11 teams immune from relegation, exchange or expulsion? That would render games pretty meaningless very quickly. Plus you're getting the same games every season. Extremely uninteresting. It's a closed shop within a closed shop. How very American sports league of you.

b) On the same subject, have none of the people involved ever heard of the law of diminishing returns? How many times can you watch Man United vs AC Milan or Paris vs Chelsea in a season or every before getting bored? Not only would games be meaningless with teams not motiviated to succeed due to being guaranteed a place in the division but the games would become boring pretty quickly too due to repetitive fixtures.
Precedence: Celtic vs Rangers. They play each other as much as six times a season due to the two Scottish cups.

c) This goes behind the backs of each club's respective national associations as well as the ECA and UEFA, although I'm sure UEFA and the ECA wouldn't be too displeased to see this happen. In fact, I'm sure they privately support it.

d) It's a slap in the face to other "big teams" who didn't make it; teams with more history and relevance to continental competitions. Yes, it's trivial but no Portuguese or Dutch teams who have a bit more 'tradition' in these competitions. Manchester City get a guaranteed 20 year place in the league despite having been extremely underwhelming in the Champions League every season since they became a relevant team 7 years ago? Rubbish.

e) A friend of mine who disagrees with the SL but agrees that the CL needs revamping said "Yeah but who wants to watch Man United vs Basel? Nobody." That is so patronising and narrow-minded. Basel fans. Basel fans want to see that game. What do these 'small' teams offer? They offer a lot to their own fans and their town. If they're good enough to have qualified for the division or competition then you can't complain. Same goes for "What do Huddersfield offer to the Premier League?" Well, absolutely everything to their fans and a lot of other people not even football related in West Yorkshire.

I hate that Look Down view of big teams' fans. Unbridled arrogance.

Summary

Let them do it. Football is already behind a paywall so put this behind a double level 2 super paywall and have sparse attendances for the same games over and over. It might leave national competitions in the hands of those who might actually give a damn about it.

I hate the idea of a Super League but if these teams sod off and I can stop hearing about them so much because they'll be on channels or packages I don't watch, then good.

At the same time, it is a logical progession and I am simply recalcitrant to what has been an otherwise accurate geographical scope; local teams form regional leagues (The Football League), then those leagues go national (inclusion of southern teams); you play-off against other national leagues' teams once in a while (Wolves vs Honved, Wolves vs Celtic, Wolves vs Spartak Moscow) and expand to having regular, supplementary competitions (European Cup, Champions League) and this will ultimately lead to a continental division like in rugby (Pro14) and ice hockey (KHL).

I suppose the reason I'm resistant to it is because the idea that it's being done for footballing reasons is so transparent. It's an obvious cash-grab with no thought to the quality of the game or the progression of the sport. That and there is way too much continental football already; these competitions need to contract, not expand, but try telling that to UEFA.

For the English system, you can directly trace this all to Manchester United not competing in the 1999/00 FA Cup. That was the beginning of the end for national competitions being relevant.
 
Jeez. Where do they find these sculptors?
 
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Tough week for United this week, away to Juventus on Wednesday followed by Man City at home on Sunday, I'd be perfectly happy with a point each from those games. :scared:
 
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