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Ohh man, i forgot about those Japan races! They were awesome! But what was funny about them was that to the average Japanese racing fan who didn't know too much about NASCAR back in the US, they would have thought Mike Skinner was a superstar or something! Aaaahahahahaaaa! (He did win two of the three races)
And then there was the Drift King himself, Keiichi Tsuchiya (Buddy Baker called him "toosueya") putting on a drift clinic in the rain in a 3000lb Thunderbird cup car, that'll never happen again...
I also feel sorry for whoever decided to build that oval at Motegi, ONE FREAKING RACE! That was a real good investment.... Poor guys, they thought "if we build it, they will come..."
Apparently not more than once....
IMO I'm sure it would have been NASCAR's Japanese home if they kept it up
 
Looked back at Racing Reference and seen that the fields were small and consisted of all 3 series in NASCAR. Basically had to be a logistical nightmare getting equipment there.
 
No serious crashes, a mini fuel mileage race in stage 1, & lots of exciting close racing! Another great race from Dover. (Besides the rain delay and Mike Joy spoiling the IMSA race.) Also Harvick gets a 4th win.
 
It was later structurally damaged by an earthquake and most likely will never be used again.

On the bright side, it's still used as one of the coolest race track parking lots on Earth!

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Abandoning ship.
This is definitely a big deal. It means that NASCAR as it currently exists is doomed.
IMO, the best (not the only) possible future for NASCAR is to return to its roots. That means mainly dirt tracks and short ovals, regionally oriented in the south. Maybe owner/driver cars sponsored by the local tavern, and no national TV.
 
This is definitely a big deal. It means that NASCAR as it currently exists is doomed.
IMO, the best (not the only) possible future for NASCAR is to return to its roots. That means mainly dirt tracks and short ovals, regionally oriented in the south. Maybe owner/driver cars sponsored by the local tavern, and no national TV.
Cars that look closer to their factory counterparts would be nice.
 
This is definitely a big deal. It means that NASCAR as it currently exists is doomed.
IMO, the best (not the only) possible future for NASCAR is to return to its roots. That means mainly dirt tracks and short ovals, regionally oriented in the south. Maybe owner/driver cars sponsored by the local tavern, and no national TV.
Having them race something much closer to street versions of the Camaro, Mustang, and Camry would certainly help reduce a lot of the manufacturing, fabrication, and R&D costs. These race cars are closer to airplanes (in fabrication methods) than they are to street cars. Obviously, going back to a more regional schedule would greatly reduce the costs associated with travel. It would certainly hurt their incoming cash flow if the national TV deal was removed, as that's the lion's share of the money for the tracks to operate.
 
The reason they abandoned the cars that actually looked like street cars is that one make would always prove to be dramatically better aero-wise than the others, leading to complaints and “performance adjustments”.
 
This is definitely a big deal. It means that NASCAR as it currently exists is doomed.
IMO, the best (not the only) possible future for NASCAR is to return to its roots. That means mainly dirt tracks and short ovals, regionally oriented in the south. Maybe owner/driver cars sponsored by the local tavern, and no national TV.
I consider this the first step to a "New" NASCAR. If you think the cup series should be more like V8 Supercars (raises hand) then this is a good thing. It opens up the doors to more road courses, cars that look closer to factory and don't look like piecemeal slab sided blobs, and potentially more manufacturers and greater exposure. The France family has outlived their purpose and it's time for someone else to come in and clean out the trash.
 
If you have NBCSN, are you watching the coverage of NASCAR K&N Pro Series West racing at Tuscon right now? The cool story here is of Hershel McGriff racing in the series- at the "young" age of 90. Can you imagine being 90 years old and racing against mostly 20-somethings and teenagers? H. McGriff says he jogs every day and goes to the gym. If you're of an advanced age and have the fitness to get into a race car, why not? What would be crazy is if somebody like... Richard Petty wanted to have a go at modern Cup cars at the age of 80. Even crazier if he won and could compete in the Chase for the Cup, and have a chance at gaining his 8th Cup championship! Anyhow... score one for the old guys with Hershel McGriff! :)


Enjoy the action from Kansas this weekend with Trucks and Cup, by the way. We're not in Kansas anymore...
 
Anyhow... score one for the old guys with Hershel McGriff! :)


Enjoy the action from Kansas this weekend with Trucks and Cup, by the way. We're not in Kansas anymore...
But Matt Kenseth is. :odd:

And yes, score one for the old guys! :gtpflag:
 
I consider this the first step to a "New" NASCAR. If you think the cup series should be more like V8 Supercars (raises hand) then this is a good thing. It opens up the doors to more road courses, cars that look closer to factory and don't look like piecemeal slab sided blobs, and potentially more manufacturers and greater exposure. The France family has outlived their purpose and it's time for someone else to come in and clean out the trash.
Well said.
And ya know, they have a good chance at this soon, with Ford dropping production of everything but the Mustang, NASCAR will finally have the old Camaro vs. Mustang battle in the cup series. And lets face it, they are both cooler cars than the four doors that have been dominant in stockcar racing for decades.
Speaking of four doors, what about the Camry? Looks kinda silly being pitted against a pair of performance coupes.
What about a NASCAR spec Toyota Supra? That's a fair JDM match to the Murican muscle wouldn't ya say. Well, except for one thing... Aerodynamics... Im pretty sure the production Supra will be way sleeker and sexier than anything outta Detroit.
So obviously the cars will need major aerodynamic changes to make their drag coefficients more comparable, but that's do-able.
Come to think of it, it would probably be easier, more cost efficient, and could allow for more creative engineering if NASCAR stock cars started life as just that... A STOCK CAR, with a traceable vin number. NASCAR could simply mandate track specific aero kits for each make. This could also allow for better performance tuning opportunities for crews, as you could tailor make different specs for different track types. Going to the Glen? Slap a wing on the back and a big ol splitter on the front. Daytona? Rip all that crap off and add a widebody kit with a ducktail spoiler. Dirt track anyone? Take a page outta modern drifting 101 and get an angle kit on there. The possibilities are endlless...

P.S. this would also be a perfect series for Dodge to re enter the Challenger. Heck, how many other manufacturers make 2dr FR performance cars?...
 
Well said.
And ya know, they have a good chance at this soon, with Ford dropping production of everything but the Mustang, NASCAR will finally have the old Camaro vs. Mustang battle in the cup series. And lets face it, they are both cooler cars than the four doors that have been dominant in stockcar racing for decades.
Speaking of four doors, what about the Camry? Looks kinda silly being pitted against a pair of performance coupes.
What about a NASCAR spec Toyota Supra? That's a fair JDM match to the Murican muscle wouldn't ya say. Well, except for one thing... Aerodynamics... Im pretty sure the production Supra will be way sleeker and sexier than anything outta Detroit.
So obviously the cars will need major aerodynamic changes to make their drag coefficients more comparable, but that's do-able.
Come to think of it, it would probably be easier, more cost efficient, and could allow for more creative engineering if NASCAR stock cars started life as just that... A STOCK CAR, with a traceable vin number. NASCAR could simply mandate track specific aero kits for each make. This could also allow for better performance tuning opportunities for crews, as you could tailor make different specs for different track types. Going to the Glen? Slap a wing on the back and a big ol splitter on the front. Daytona? Rip all that crap off and add a widebody kit with a ducktail spoiler. Dirt track anyone? Take a page outta modern drifting 101 and get an angle kit on there. The possibilities are endlless...

P.S. this would also be a perfect series for Dodge to re enter the Challenger. Heck, how many other manufacturers make 2dr FR performance cars?...
I say give it a few more years and the GT86 (hachi-roku) will be ready to replace the Camry in NASCAR competition. I can only see them using the incoming Supra if NASCAR can overhaul its entire rulebook to better resemble modern rules and aero. The Challenger would be a natural fit under more updated rules as well.

PS, when the 86 comes to NASCAR, can Toyota paint the show car in a certain black and white color scheme and write "TOYOTA RACING GT86" in big, bold Japanese Kanji, that would be epic.
 
PS, when the 86 comes to NASCAR, can Toyota paint the show car in a certain black and white color scheme and write "TOYOTA RACING GT86" in big, bold Japanese Kanji, that would be epic.
I like where your head's at hahaha

It would be even better if a team used that paintjob and got sponsored by something Tofu related.
But don't ya think the 86 is a little small? Compared to the Camaro and Mustang I mean? Wouldn't that mean it would need a lot of work aerodynamically to put it on the same level?
 
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Damn I’ll be mad if Harvick holds on, Larson had it in the bag before the caution.

Edit: And to make it worse, Larson AND Blaney come together.

Edit: Jeez, for 1.5 mile track, what is with it and having huge crashes.
 
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Can anyone recommend a website for streaming NASCAR races for FREE?
Ive checked a few and they all want credit card numbers...BS. Why would i pay a site to pirate streams illegally? I used to find races on YouTube but it seems they are policing that more stringently now.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Gordon is the only driver who has ever won in a #24 car. Maybe it's cursed?

Wonder if anyone will challenge the 4 this year.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Gordon is the only driver who has ever won in a #24 car. Maybe it's cursed?

Wonder if anyone will challenge the 4 this year.
But if it was cursed then wouldn't Jeff Gordon have never won running it? Or are you saying Jeff cursed it? Or Jeff Gordon is immune to curses? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he was immune, Jeff Gordon is a Drangonborne after all...
 
Why does it feel now like i can easily predict who the hell wins, because that's what this season has felt like
 
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