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It's a very interesting season so far and while I'm thrilled that United are in the mix, it could still go any way.
That's a bit of an understatement. ;) Not even half way through the season, and considering the starts Man Utd and Cit€h had, on top of starting later, shows that there is nobody who is consistent atm. Compared to the last 2-3 seasons, there are not one or two teams streaking ahead of the rest, with more unpredictable games, for many reasons. Atm, it could go anywhere, to anyone. ;)
 
Spurs 2-0 Brentford.

Spurs are through to the Carabao Cup final after a comfortable win tonight, Sissoko and Son with the goals, Toney had a goal controversially ruled out for offside for Brentford who had Dasilva sent off late on for a bad challenge on Hojbjerg that left him with a bad cut on his shin, Brentford did well at times but Spurs deserve to go through.

Its Mourinho's fifth League cup final and he has won his previous four, he is the most successful manager in the tournaments history.
 
Dissapointing result for United tonight, the performance was actually pretty good for the most part I thought, but City were just on top form and on another lovel to us this evening. Our forwards didn't have their best games, we had the ball in the back of the City net in the 2nd minute but it was from an offside pass. Then City scored 2 off side goals. It was very end to end early on, but City started to settle and dominated posession for a while.

In the second half we had a few spells where we got forward and created chances and on another day we might have done better with them, but City deserved the win tonight. Dissapointed but I don't feel robbed, the better team on the night won and we move on. I did like Luke Shaw channeling his inner Roy Keane on Cancelo after he fouled Rashford though.
 
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Good first half but bad in the second I thought, too many players didn't turn up, Fernandes had a rare off night.
 
Good first half but bad in the second I thought, too many players didn't turn up, Fernandes had a rare off night.
I agree, Fernandes was poor in the game, we lacked that spark up front. Defiintely a better first half, we still created some chances in the second, but just didn't properly click. I don't think it was a bad perforamnce, certianly not our best, but City were very good unfortunately.
 
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Juventus beat Milan at San Siro 1-3 last night in a must win game. Juventus would have been 13 points back in the league with a loss. Both teams have had COVID cases and Juventus were almost not allowed to leave Turin before the game.

Still no Zlatan for Milan. He has only played 6 of 16 games this season due to COVID and injuries contributing 10 goals and an assist. This was Milan's first league loss since March 8th, 2020 and the first time in 17 league games that they failed to score two or more goals.

Inter and Napoli lost as well yesterday, leaving the door open for Juventus to still have a chance at their 10th consecutive Serie A title. This has been by far the closest top flight Italian season in a while.
 
Aston Villa announced a Covid outbreak at their club today with an number of positive tests, their FA Cup tie v Liverpool tomorrow will still go ahead.

Southampton v Shrewsbury is off because Shrewsbury say most of their playing staff have tested positive, game is postponed for now.
 
Given England's cases I'm surprised Football is still continuing.
 
Yeah its really not looking good right now....
 
So its the FA Cup third round this weekend, traditionally one of the biggest weekends on the domestic calender, there are a lot of matches so I will only post the games on TV for this round but will post full schedules in the latter rounds.

Here are the TV games for this weekend.

Tonight.
Aston Villa v Liverpool (7.45 BT)

Saturday.
Chorley v Derby (12.15 BT)
Arsenal v Newcastle (5.30 BBC One)
Man United v Watford (8pm BT)

Sunday.
Crawley v Leeds (1.30 BBC One)
Marine v Tottenham (5pm BBC One)
Newport v Brighton (7.45 BT)

Monday night.
Stockport v West Ham (8pm BT)

Wolves v Palace is also on tonight but its non-TV. There are a few games on at 12pm tomorrow, 3pm tomorrow, two at 6pm. On Sunday there are a few kicking off at 1.30pm.

Games are on BBC and BT plus iPlayer, red button and the FA player.

Villa v Liverpool tonight will go ahead despite nine positive Covid tests among the Villa players yesterday, Villa will play their Under 23s in the game and manager Dean Smith won't be there either, Derby have to do the same against Chorley as well because of an outbreak at the club.
 
FA Cup round up.

Aston Villa 1-4 Liverpool
Wolves 1-0 Palace
Forest 1-0 Cardiff
Norwich 2-0 Coventry
Luton 1-0 Reading
Everton 2-1 Rotherham (after extra time)
Boreham Wood 0-2 Millwall
Chorley 2-1 Derby
Stevenage 0-2 Swansea
QPR 0-2 Fulham (after extra time)
Bournemouth 4-1 Oldham
Exeter 0-2 Sheff Wednesday
Burnley 1-1 MK Dons (Burnley win 4-3 on penalties)
Bristol Rovers 2-3 Sheff Utd
Blackpool 2-2 West Brom (Blackpool win 3-2 on penalties)
Blackburn 0-1 Doncaster
Wycombe 4-1 Preston
Stoke 0-4 Leicester
Arsenal 0-0 Newcastle (extra time being played)
Huddersfield 2-2 Plymouth (latest score)
Brentford 1-1 Middlesbrough (latest score)

Congrats to non-league Chorley for knocking out Championship side Derby, Derby had to name a team of under 23 and under 18s because of Covid but still a fine achievement to make it to the fourth round, getting worse for West Brom after being knocked out by League One Blackpool on penalties, Fulham and Everton needed extra time to go through and Burnley needed penalties to beat MK Dons, no replays this season.

Aston Villa's youngsters put up a fight and played admirably last night against Liverpool until Liverpool scored three in six second half minutes, Louie Barry scored Villa's goal. Arsenal-Newcastle just started extra time, Man United v Watford to come tonight.
 
Arsenal 2-0 Newcastle (after extra time)
Huddersfield 2-3 Plymouth
Brentford 2-1 Middlesbrough
Man United 1-0 Watford
Man City 3-0 Birmingham
Crawley 3-0 Leeds
Cheltenham 2-1 Mansfield (after extra time)
Chelsea 4-0 Morecambe
Bristol City 2-1 Portsmouth
Barnsley 2-0 Tranmere
Marine 0-5 Tottenham

Big shock with Crawley beating Leeds comfortably, all the goals in the second half against a strong Leeds team who didn't turn up, congrats to Crawley.

Eighth tier Marine did well against Spurs and we in the game for the first 20 mins and had the best chance of the game but then Spurs started scoring, a hat-trick for Carlos Vinicius and a sublime free kick from Lucas Moura made it 0-4 at half time and then 16-year old Alfie Devine came of the bench to score on his debut.

Newport v Brighton on now with Stockport v West Ham tomorrow night, tomorrow night is also the draw for the fourth and fifth round.
 
Stockport gave West Ham a very good run for thier money, they really did play well given the obvious gulf in class between the two sides.

United have gone top after beating Burnley 1-0. It was a bit of a stop start game, but United were very professional, controlled posession and kept probing. I canont for the life of me understand why Maguires goal was dissallowed, that's just baffling. Not a very good display from the referee overall IMO, but Burnley were very hard to break down. We kept probing though and eventually a goal came that Friend couldn't dissallow for "reasons".

I don't like that there's some noise this morning over Pogba's handshake celebration as "breaking the celebration restrictions" when Sheffiled United and Evertons players were all hugging after thier goals last night. Several players were really good yesterday, Bailly, Pogba, Shaw, Matic, just a solid, solid performance once Burnley's attempt to come off the blocks flying settled down after 15 mins or so.
 
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Yeah very happy with last night, it was a great second half performance and the goal was really good. Pogba has been our best player for the last month or so.

Still not getting too excited or ahead of myself, I'm happy we are top of course but still a long way to go, but we are definitely heading in the right direction.

FA Cup fourth round draw.

Cheltenham v Man City
Bournemouth v Crawley
Swansea v Nottingham Forest
Man United v Liverpool
Southampton/Shrewsbury v Arsenal
Barnsley v Norwich
Chorley v Wolves
Millwall v Bristol City
Brighton v Blackpool
Wycombe v Tottenham
Fulham v Burnley
Sheffield United v Plymouth
Chelsea v Luton
West Ham v Doncaster
Brentford v Leicester
Everton v Sheffield Wednesday

Ties to be played on weekend of 23rd of January, meaning Man United and Liverpool will play each other twice in a week! Fifth round draw was made as well apparently to help with the scheduling but I wont post that until fourth round is done as its all either or right now.

Two league games tonight, Man City v Brighton at 6pm on BT and Spurs v Fulham on at 8pm on Amazon, Arsenal v Crystal Palace is on tomorrow night.
 
Given England's cases I'm surprised Football is still continuing.

Same. Too much money involved in cancelling it, perhaps?

I'm so god damned cynical towards top level football that "it's because of the money" has become my go to. :indiff:
 
Everton vs. Villa is now off as well due to COVID.
 
Aston Villa will have three games in hand after this, and could have to play five games in two weeks!
 
Games for this weekend, more of a regular schedule after the cup games.

Saturday.
Wolves v West Brom (12.30 BT)
Leeds v Brighton (3pm Sky)
West Ham v Burnley (3pm Amazon)
Fulham v Chelsea (5.30 Sky)
Leicester v Southampton (8pm BT)

Sunday.
Sheffield United v Tottenham (2pm Sky)
Liverpool v Man United (4.30 Sky)
Man City v Crystal Palace (7.15 Sky)

Monday.
Arsenal v Newcastle (8pm Sky)

Aston Villa v Everton is off because of the continued outbreak of Covid that Villa are dealing with.

There are a few league games in mid week next week also.
 
Liverpool 0 -0 United, honestly I'm dissapointed with that. It wasn't a great game, it was being hyped up as something special as these matches often are. In the first half Liverpool dominated posession, had a few shots, though not on target and we didn't really get much of a foothold. Second half things opened up a bit more and United had the best chances of the night by far, but we didn't get the goal.

I think we showed Liverpool too much respect today and it took us until the 2nd half to switch on to that. If Liverpool were in fantastic form and/or played fantastic today I'd be saying a point well earned. As it is, a point is arguably the fair result, but if we'd taken the game to them earlier I can't help but feel like we'd have won that game.

That was not a vintage display from Liverpool and to be fair Liverpool fans are probably saying the same thing "if we'd done this right and that instead we'd have beaten United today" but I will stick with my perspective at least I know that's how I feel about the match.
 
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Wolves 2-3 West Brom
Leeds 0-1 Brighton
West Ham 1-0 Burnley
Fulham 0-1 Chelsea
Leicester 2-0 Southampton
Sheff Utd 1-3 Spurs
Liverpool 0-0 Man Utd

First win for Big Sam since taking charge for WBA in a great game v Wolves, Ndombele scored a goal of the season contender against Sheff Utd.

After all the hype of the last few days it was almost inevitable that Liverpool-United finished 0-0, Liverpool had most of possession but both teams had good chances to win it, Luke Shaw was best player on the pitch for me but make-shift defenders Henderson and Fabinho did well, I'm quite happy with the result and performance but feel we should have done more.

Not much else to say about the weekend's action.
 
Wolves 2-3 West Brom
Leeds 0-1 Brighton
West Ham 1-0 Burnley
Fulham 0-1 Chelsea
Leicester 2-0 Southampton
Sheff Utd 1-3 Spurs
Liverpool 0-0 Man Utd

First win for Big Sam since taking charge for WBA in a great game v Wolves, Ndombele scored a goal of the season contender against Sheff Utd.

After all the hype of the last few days it was almost inevitable that Liverpool-United finished 0-0, Liverpool had most of possession but both teams had good chances to win it, Luke Shaw was best player on the pitch for me but make-shift defenders Henderson and Fabinho did well, I'm quite happy with the result and performance but feel we should have done more.

Not much else to say about the weekend's action.
Depends what happens in the last match. ;) :lol:

I'm obviously watching from a Liverpool perspective, though I like to think I am fair of mind. Don't we all. ;) :lol:

Liverpool dominated the first half, against a team who were in form, and Liverpool not quite there atm. Second half was pretty even, though Utd had the better chances on goal, after not having a shot on target in the first. Liverpool's front line are going through a bit of a shallow time, but after 3+ years of them being on top form, all of them 'struggling' is unfortunate. Jota was the man for times like this, but his injury is being felt in times like this. Origi is always an option, but he suits a different style of play, and used when something different is needed.

I thought Thiago and Fabinho were excellent. I never saw much of Thiago before he came to Liverpool, but I have never seen anyone so smooth on the ball and accurate with fast passes. Fabinho hardly put a foot wrong. Unless you were told, you would not know he had not been playing there his whole career. I thought Luke Shaw had a good game too, but it is about time he started living up to the potential he had before the injuries. It is whether he can do that every week. Fabinho was my motm, and being a defender, like Shaw, that says something about the game. ;) :rolleyes:

Overall I think a draw is a fair result.
 
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Well there were four goals scored in both the other two games played on Sunday....
 
So its Arsenal v Newcastle tonight and then there are five league games and one cup game taking place this week.

Tuesday.
West Ham v West Brom (6pm BT)
Leicester v Chelsea (8.15 Sky)

Wednesday.
Man City v Aston Villa (6pm BT)
Fulham v Man United (8.15 BT)

Thursday.
Liverpool v Burnley (8pm Sky)

The cup game is Shrewsbury v Southampton FA Cup third round tie which was postponed from last weekend after a Covid outbreak at Shrewsbury, so much so that manager Steve Cotterill is in intensive care. Game will take place on BT at 8pm on Tuesday, Southampton were due to play Leeds in the league on Tuesday but game has been postponed so they could play the cup game.
 
Is it ironic that at a time when football has been considered by some to be at its most essential for reasons of sanity and entertainment, that I've never watched less football at any other point in my life?

I watched Liverpool vs Manchester United at the weekend out of curisosity and honestly, not only was it a terrible game but the first game I've watched since... last season? Connah's Quay aren't playing at the moment and if Wrexham play a game I only watch the goals from highlights (if any) and nothing else.
 
West Ham 2-1 West Brom
Leicester 2-0 Chelsea
Southampton 2-0 Shrewsbury

A well worked corner routine by Leicester led to Ndidi's strike on 6 minutes and poor Chelsea defending for the second goal which was a nice strike by Maddison on 24 minutes. Bad night for Chelsea who were in the game but didn't really do a lot, Leicester now top the table!

West Ham up to seventh with their win, Bowen got West Ham the lead right on on half time before Pereira equalised for WBA, Antonio got the eventual winner. Southampton were fairly comfortable in their cup win but Shrewsbury did well given the circumstances Dan Nlundulu got a goal on his Saints debut and a trademark Ward-Prowse free kick saw Southampton through.
 
Man City 2-0 Aston Villa.
Fulham 1-2 Man United.

Man City's first goal was pretty controversial after Rodri came from miles offside to get involved in play that led to Silva giving City the led in the 80th minute, I thought the goal was fine myself as Mings touched touched the ball before Rodri took it off him after coming from offside, Dean Smith wasn't happy and got sent off, second goal come from the penalty spot after a Matt Cash handball, Gundogan converted. Score was harsh on Villa as they were more than a match for City in their first game for three weeks. City went top briefly until...

United played and won, but it wasn't easy as it never is! Lookman gave Fulham the lead after just four minutes when he was one-on-one with De Gea after being just onside, United started slowly again but grew into the game, Cavani got the equaliser on 21 minutes after Areola spilled the ball and then Pogba scored a fantastic strike in the second half, Fulham did well and caused us some problems but it was fairly comfortable, and now we are back on top.
 
I don't think the Cit€h goal should have stood, as although it has been explained that it was a 'legal' goal, the player was only in a position to get the ball because he was in an offside position the second before Mings (mis)kicked the ball.

If they just simplified the offside rules to where they were years ago, if you are beyond the last opposition player (minus the keeper) when a pass is played forward by the opposition, you were offside. No debates about 'interfering' with play or anything else. In the situation tonight, as soon as the ball went forward the player was so obviously offside that the flag could have went up, no need to get VAR involved.

I very much doubt they would go back to a simpler system, but this could, with a more cynical manager/team/player, lead to a very sneaky tactic of deliberately having someone offside, the flag not going up, and the player offside quickly closing down the player with the ball who will continue the game to try and hurry them into a panicked move as they are about to touch the ball, similar to Mings, though I think that was just poor control rather than being rushed, and as long as they got to the player fractionally after he kicks the ball, it would be seen as a 'new phase of play'. :rolleyes: Hopefully this is just a one off, but I would not have been happy if that happened to my team, legal or not.

A lot of the commentators and media I have seen were against it, but just seem to shrug the shoulders and, "it was legal" with a 'nothing you can do about it' attitude. :guilty:

I thought both games were pretty good, with all the teams trying to win, and not much between them. :)

I think I have cursed Fernandes by putting him into my Fantasy Football team btw, (you're welcome Utd fans ;)) as he is not playing well as before. No doubt he will have a blinder on Sunday, because it is not in the league, and of no benefit to my FF team. :rolleyes: ;) :lol:
 
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Real Madrid were knocked out of the Copa Del Rey at the last 32 stage last night by third-tier Alcoyano, they lost 2-1 after in extra time and Alcoyano finished the game with 10 men.

Cristiano Ronaldo supposedly broke Czech legend Josef Bican's all time goal-scoring record last night when he scored his 760th goal as a professional for club and country during Juventus 2-0 super cup win over Napoli, but the Czech FA have said that Bican actually scored 821 goals meaning Ronaldo will need to score 62 more...
 
Liverpool 0-1 Burnley.

Ashley Barnes penalty in the 83rd minute seals a great win for Burnley, Klopp had made changes to the team and left Henderson out altogether with Salah and Firmino on the bench, Liverpool dominted much of the game as you'd expect but lacked creativity yet again and they now haven't scored in the league in 2021, Pope and Mee were fantastic for Burnley, first time Liverpool have lost in the league at home in four years!

Also... :lol::lol::lol::lol:

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FA Cup fourth round games this weekend.

Friday night.
Chorley v Wolves (7.45 BT)

Saturday.
Southampton v Arsenal (12.15 BT)
Barnsley v Norwich
Brighton v Blackpool
Millwall v Bristol City
Sheff Utd v Plymouth
Swansea v Nott Forest
West Ham v Doncaster
Cheltenham v Man City (5.30 BBC)

Sunday.
Chelsea v Luton (12pm BBC)
Brentford v Leicester (2.30 BT)
Fulham v Burnley
Man United v Liverpool (5.30 BBC)
Everton v Sheff Wednesday (8pm BT)

Monday.
Wycombe v Tottenham (7.45 BT)

Bournemouth v Crawley will be played next Tuesday because of Covid, game isn't on TV.
 
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