2020 Subaru Legacy (Starts at Post #70)

That's great but wrong and while there isn't a current for U.S. turbo, there was one made for the U.S. that ended up being sold in SA and Australia this current gen that is a 2.5 turbo at 268hp or 270~. The GT and B spec before were turbo and sold in the U.S. which brings me back to my question that has yet been answered but one or two have hinted at why it shouldn't, why is the STi needed and where would it be placed? Actually let me be more direct, where would it be placed and how would it be spec wise, that it doesn't eat into WRX STi sales and territory.

14hp difference...wow that's massive Keef, hence the key words being "close to"

Not that six hp matters but since you wanted to be anal, the Camary I saw at top spec is 301hp and the price was much more than 3k, but I'll assume options were the reason and your supposed 3k apart is base.

Gen six started in 2014...if you're talking about the global use of the 3.6 engine, that wasn't what I was talking about. As for the year different in MY the point still stands, the Subaru is probably the last car to make its transition thus comparing the two is strange.

Wow so two cars that have power ratings that the Legacy has years ahead with the GT...okay. Not only that but the Altima isn't that great, nor is the output as you stated, it's 236 in 2.0 guise. I'd have to guess the Accord is good because I don't ever see anything to the contrary, and the fact that the Subaru is capable of much more as has been shown with the global GT.

Again if you're going to be anal (about a Typo of all things, seriously) then get the power figures right. Second I can't find an A-Spec under 40k but interesting nonetheless that you suggest it. Also there is an AWD option and it starts at 35k with 310hp that is a Subaru.

 

https://www.goauto.com.au/new-model...dition-liberty-send-off/2020-11-25/84127.html
No extra power.

 

I think the AMC Eaglewagon is fully reborn. I mean, like really fully reborn... today...

 

@05XR8 -- They are very large; I think they've practically grown into an SUV shape. I don't often like "car styling" on SUVs, but the previous Outback is one of the better-looking modern SUVs, IMO.

Shame about the CVTs and the light-up monolith usurping the interior.

 

Yah, I'm definitely seeing it morph into a Tahoe/Escalade/Excursion at some stage.
Seriously, won't need the Forester in the line up, unless it's going EV at some stage(I haven't kept up on that model).

 

Hell, I find the current Forester and Outback difficult to distinguish in styling or size, and as a car guy you know I don't have a bad eye for cars. I don't know what they're doing with the Forester anymore. The Crosstrek is the new original Forester.

 

Outback Wilderness Edition

https://www.motor1.com/news/466043/subaru-outback-wilderness-edition-spied/

 

RWL tyres. I remember Subarus in the USA used to come with those.

A more rugged interior would be cool.

 

That is a wagon on stilts. The limited wheel well clearance left by our BP's slightly upsized wheels after its suspension lift makes it a bit more like a wagon on platform shoes -- no easier to clear out the wheel wells in the winter than my Legacy, really.

I wonder if it can really cope with that much height safely.

 

For many years the Legacy just seemed to get bulkier and fatter, but this looks pretty nimble. That said, not liking how more and more cars are implementing those vertical tablets in the center console. Not only do such screens break up the dashboard design in an extremely intrusive manner, but I also believe their control interfaces are bad for road safety. Static buttons and knobs have worked totally fine for decades...