2021/22 Premier League & General Football Discussion

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Loads of EFL games off as well.
 
I have been a Manchester City supporter since the days of Francis Lee* & Colin Bell & Mike Summerbee. premier League football seems a bit like cheating nowadays, with the number of foreign players & money sloshing around the top clubs.



* Just read that Francis Lee made a fortune in the toilet paper business after retiring!
 
premier League football seems a bit like cheating nowadays, with the number of foreign players & money sloshing around the top clubs.
It was like that pre Premier League, though as you go back further the number of foreign players reduces, and the finances reduce, but there have always been rich clubs. ;)

As for cheating, not sure how, :confused: but they all have millions of £'s, maybe not all equally, but some spend better than others.
 
I have been a Manchester City supporter since the days of Francis Lee* & Colin Bell & Mike Summerbee. premier League football seems a bit like cheating nowadays, with the number of foreign players & money sloshing around the top clubs.



* Just read that Francis Lee made a fortune in the toilet paper business after retiring!
No wonder he was rolling in it...
 
It was like that pre Premier League, though as you go back further the number of foreign players reduces, and the finances reduce, but there have always been rich clubs. ;)

As for cheating, not sure how, :confused: but they all have millions of £'s, maybe not all equally, but some spend better than others.
Yes - it's true that there have always been unequal resources, but when the pool of players came more from "local lads" developed from an early age it seemed a bit more legit. Now many of those positions are filled with foreign players with a sprinkling of British super stars.
 
Yes - it's true that there have always been unequal resources, but when the pool of players came more from "local lads" developed from an early age it seemed a bit more legit. Now many of those positions are filled with foreign players with a sprinkling of British super stars.
The saying in sports, "if you're not cheating, then you're not trying." Teams will always try to find an advantage. Teams will buy foreign players at a young age and put them in the academy. Paul Pogba seems to be legit home grown talent, right? :D
 
The saying in sports, "if you're not cheating, then you're not trying." Teams will always try to find an advantage. Teams will buy foreign players at a young age and put them in the academy. Paul Pogba seems to be legit home grown talent, right? :D
It's not really "cheating" though is it? It has more to do with an imbalance in the ability to spend money. In the end, while a few teams may enjoy great success, the sport as a whole may suffer as the competition becomes too predictable. I guess that's what the governing body of the sport needs to regulate.
 
It's not really "cheating" though is it? It has more to do with an imbalance in the ability to spend money. In the end, while a few teams may enjoy great success, the sport as a whole may suffer as the competition becomes too predictable. I guess that's what the governing body of the sport needs to regulate.
You tell me. It's your topic of discussion. ;)
I have been a Manchester City supporter since the days of Francis Lee* & Colin Bell & Mike Summerbee. premier League football seems a bit like cheating nowadays, with the number of foreign players & money sloshing around the top clubs.
 
You tell me. It's your topic of discussion. ;)
I was responding to:
"if you're not cheating, then you're not trying."

which, to be honest I'd never heard before. It seems like it's an American quote, not part of my upbringing. It does seem a like really appropriate one for F1 though, where the boundary between "trying hard" & "cheating" seems particularly hard to pin down. :sly:
 
I was responding to:


which, to be honest I'd never heard before. It seems like it's an American quote, not part of my upbringing. It does seem a like really appropriate one for F1 though, where the boundary between "trying hard" & "cheating" seems particularly hard to pin down. :sly:
It is from American sports, and it can apply to football. Diving for penalties, player wall creeping inside the radius of the free kick, ball placed outside of the corner kick circle, the “dark art” of defending.
 
Diving for penalties, player wall creeping inside the radius of the free kick, ball placed outside of the corner kick circle, the “dark art” of defending.
Yeah - you're right about that. That kind of cheating is peculiarly endemic to soccer & not something that enters American football much at all. Different sport-specific cultures.
 
Here are the Boxing Day games.

Aston Villa v Chelsea (5.30 Sky)
Brighton v Brentford (8pm Sky)
Man City v Leicester
Norwich v Arsenal
Tottenham v Crystal Palace (3pm BT)
West Ham v Southampton

Monday 27th.
Newcastle v Man United (8pm Sky)

We lost another game today, Burnley v Everton is off joining Liverpool v Leeds and Wolves v Watford in being called off, Everton have lot of injury and Covid issues.

Posting these a day early as just in case I'm not on here tomorrow.

Merry Christmas everyone! 🎁🎊🎀☃️
 
Covid Football update for today (so far!)

Spurs v Palace is going ahead after a request from Palace to postpone the game was rejected.

All other games in the PL going ahead so far, including tonight's and tomorrow night's games.

Leeds v Aston Villa's game on Tuesday night (the 28th) is off.

Steven Gerrard and Patrick Vieira both tested positive so will not be on the touchline for their teams games.

Hull v Blackburn in the Championship today was called off just two hours before kick off!

Only two games in Championship on today with a few in League One, Two and the Vanarama.

A few postponements in Scotland but most games going ahead.
 
Man City 6-3 Leicester
Norwich 0-5 Arsenal
Spurs 3-0 Palace
West Ham 2-3 Southampton
Villa 1-3 Chelsea
Brighton 2-0 Brentford

City were 4-0 up v Leicester and cruising but Leicester staged a fight back before City finished them off, comfortable wins for Arsenal and Spurs, Southampton edged a good game v West Ham, much needed with for Chelsea with Jorginho scoring two penalties.

Wolves v Arsenal on Tuesday is off.
 
Newcastle 1-1 Man United.

Saint Maximin with a lovely finish for Newcastle and Cavani with second half equalizer which was scruffy. Bad performance from Man United again, no cohesion and poor work rate and attitude and players acting like cry babies and still relying on moments, De Gea kept us in it with two big saves and even our goal was bundled in, fair play to Newcastle it was a great performance from them and they really stepped up, Maguire and Varane couldn't handle them on the counter.

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Games for the next few days.

Tuesday.
Southampton v Tottenham (3pm)
Crystal Palace v Norwich (3pm)
Watford v West Ham (3pm)
Leicester v Liverpool (8pm)

Wednesday.
Chelsea v Brighton (7.30)
Brentford v Man City (8.15)

Thursday.
Everton v Newcastle (7.30)
Man United v Burnley (8.15)

All games are streamed live on Amazon Prime.

Arsenal v Wolves and Leeds v Aston Villa were already called off and there was no news of any more postponements today.
 
Southampton 1-1 Spurs
Palace 3-0 Norwich
Watford 1-4 West Ham
Leicester 1-0 Liverpool

Liverpool lose ground in the title race following defeat tonight, they had a lot of possession and chances but Lookman got the goal just a few minutes after coming on in the second half, Salah missed a penalty for Liverpool in the first half.

Southampton reduced to 10 men after Salisu got sent off in the first half but Spurs couldn't break them down, comfortable wins for Palace and West Ham, not looking good for either Norwich or Watford right now.

Everton v Newcastle sadly called off because of injuries and Covid in the Newcastle camp, game was scheduled for Thursday night.
 
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Man City now 8 points clear at the top of the table after a close 1-0 win over Brentford, Foden with the goal on his return to the team and it was another dogged performance from Brentford.

Danny Welbeck scored a 91st min equalizer v Chelsea in their 1-1 draw, Lukaku put Chelsea in front.

League is starting to feel like a procession now.
 
I think Man City are just going to ease away from here. I think I heard today that they have to lose 4 games from here on out while Liverpool and Chelsea or one of the other have to win everything to the end. That's just not going to happen, I think. Chelsea v. Liverpool loser this weekend are probably definitely out.
 
Man United 3-1 Burnley

Scott McTominay with a great strike eight minutes in, Jadon Sancho was instrumental for the second goal but sadly Ben Mee got a touch on it so it went down as an OG, Ronaldo with a tap in for the third before Lennon made it 3-1, all goals came in the first half and it was improved by United from the Newcastle and Monday night. Rangnick making six changes probably helped!

Norwich v Leicester new years day game is off due to COVID and injury problems for Norwich. I will post the weekends games tomorrow as normal.
 
It seems so odd when they put the proposed Man Utd formation as 4-2-2-2! 😲 🤔 Not sure I had seen that formation before the last week or two. 😄
 
Games for this new years weekend.

Saturday.
Arsenal v Man City (12.30 BT)
Crystal Palace v West Ham (5.30 Sky)
Watford v Tottenham

Sunday.
Brentford v Aston Villa (2pm Sky)
Chelsea v Liverpool (4.30 Sky)
Everton v Brighton
Leeds v Burnley

Monday.
Man United v Wolves (5.30 Sky)

Southampton v Newcastle and Leicester v Norwich both called off.
 
Man United 3-1 Burnley

Scott McTominay with a great strike eight minutes in, Jadon Sancho was instrumental for the second goal but sadly Ben Mee got a touch on it so it went down as an OG, Ronaldo with a tap in for the third before Lennon made it 3-1, all goals came in the first half and it was improved by United from the Newcastle and Monday night. Rangnick making six changes probably helped!

Norwich v Leicester new years day game is off due to COVID and injury problems for Norwich. I will post the weekends games tomorrow as normal.
It was nice to get back to winning ways and to effectively win the game in the first half. We haven’t done that enough, though I don’t think our performance was particularly outstanding in any way, Burnley we’re terrible, we didn’t need it be. Still much, much better than we were against Newcastle, that was dire.
 
Arsenal got screwed out of their win over Man City earlier, they played brilliantly and the goal from Saka was great but then City got a penalty which was correctly given but Arsenal had a penalty shout earlier that maybe should've been given that the ref didn't check on the monitor (he did for the City pen) the ref was poor overall and the winner came from Rodri in the 93rd minute and he celebrated by knee-sliding right in front of the Arsenal fans as objects rained down on the City players, City really lucky to get the win.

West Ham 3-0 up v Palace at half time and the goals from Antonio and Lanzini were superb, Spurs won 1-0 away to Watford thanks to 96th minute header from Sanchez.
 
Arsenal got screwed out of their win over Man City earlier, they played brilliantly and the goal from Saka was great but then City got a penalty which was correctly given but Arsenal had a penalty shout earlier that maybe should've been given that the ref didn't check on the monitor (he did for the City pen) the ref was poor overall and the winner came from Rodri in the 93rd minute and he celebrated by knee-sliding right in front of the Arsenal fans as objects rained down on the City players, City really lucky to get the win.

West Ham 3-0 up v Palace at half time and the goals from Antonio and Lanzini were superb, Spurs won 1-0 away to Watford thanks to 96th minute header from Sanchez.
Credit to Crystal Palace, they just kept plugging away and got two goals in the 2nd half. Substitute Michael Olise really made a difference. Great cross into the box that Edouard tapped in then his own free kick that West Ham just didn't defend and it went in for a goal. But Palace came up just short losing 3-2. Patrick Vieira got a yellow card after the game for arguing with the referee.
 
FPL: Mane and Salah aren't playing because of AFCON.
Liverpool: Have a game. Never mind that, have a goal each, guys.


FFS.
 
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