205mph Speeding Ticket

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WABASHA, Minn. - With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a motorcyclist hit the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.

On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.

When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39 seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.

"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27 years I'd never seen anything move that fast."

Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever written in the state.

After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100 mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.

The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving, driving without a motorcycle license — and driving 140 miles per hour over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.

A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods County.

Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A working number for him could not immediately be found by The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000, Loney said.

Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.

"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=8&u=/ap/20040922/ap_on_fe_st/205_mph_ticket_2
 
I got busted at 192 Km/h in my 1990 Dodge Shadow....lost my licence for 3 months...not quite 205 mph though, holy crap !!
 
TS1AWD
The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving, driving without a motorcycle license — and driving 140 miles per hour over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.

Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A working number for him could not immediately be found by The Associated Press on Tuesday.
Samuel sounds like a real winner...
 
My dad's boss has a lingenfelter Vett stage two that got pulled over at 198 mph.....but not quite 205.. lol
 
From unknown origin..

Response from another group lister



“Title is "The police said so. It must be true"





If the trooper in the aircraft under-clocked the time by 1/2 second, the speed was 185... The aerial timing procedure, as described by a California trooper in Flying magazine about 20 years back, is to match the aircraft speed to the vehicle speed, and maintain a constant flight attitude so you can use a fixed piece of the plane to sight the vehicle and the timing marks. If the observation angle changes between the start and finish, the resulting speed has a huge margin of error. The observation aircraft, in this case, was most likely one of Minnesota's 6 Cessna 182's. The C182 can cruise at 140 knots - 161 mph. The odds that the ticketed speed is accurate seem pretty slim. I hope Mr. Tilley's attorney understands this...”
 
TwinTurboJay
I got busted at 192 Km/h in my 1990 Dodge Shadow....lost my licence for 3 months...not quite 205 mph though, holy crap !!

That's hilarious 119 mph in a Shadow... idiot. :dopey:👍

possibly set the informal record for the fastest speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph...

Well... I suppose a good thing about advertising this as a "record" is it will give more entertainment for the Darwin award...

The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving, driving without a motorcycle license — and driving 140 miles per hour over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.

I bet he feels like a 20yr. old idio... I mean hero. :rolleyes:
 
*Buuump*

A little more to tear this Darwin wannabe apart, Steve says :

Ok, since I'm a pilot, a biker, and my father in law is a cop, I'm pretty
qualified to make a comment here.

1- A Cessna 182, assuming it's not an RG (retractable gear), has a Vne of
172 knots and cruises at 135 knots. That's 198 mph and 155 mph respectively.
Vne is the absolute, "thou shalt not exceed" speed of the airframe. Not as
fast as it will go, but how fast they can go before the FAA swoops in and
cracks skulls. In the real world the plane ain't gonna get there in level
flight. It's going to take a dive.

2- If the bike was truely capable of 205 mph we would have heard about it by
now.

3- In this part of the world manual timing is only admissible as evidence of
speeding, but not as proof of that speed. So they can only give you a ticket
for exceeding the posted limit, but not for exceeding it by x mph.

4- The airspace above highways is not known to be particularly smooth thanks
to thermal activity, meaning that the pilot was flying the plane, he didn't
just trim it out for straight and level. He could have had an autopilot, but
I doubt it. They're DAMNED expensive and not even close to standard
equipment on the 182 no matter how many letters you put behind it. I think
it was optional on the 207 and I know it can be had on the Caravan. Zero
chance the cop was in either of those, though. Anyway, if I was an FAA
investigator and caught wind of anyone in my region flying while trying to
time speeders I'd yank his ticket so fast his great grandkid's head would
spin (you think a staggered motorcycle licensing system is complicated? Go
look at FAR part 61 sometime). Flying an airplane by hand takes enough of
your concentration as it is. You have to watch the airspeed, altitude, tach,
and EGT, constantly scan for traffic (and I don't mean guys doing 200 mph on
the freeway), and listen to the radio. You're damned busy up there, and the
closer to the ground you are the busier it gets.

So there's my opinions, most of which are actually facts.
 
If that is the record for THAT STATE. I wonder what the record is for any state. :confused:
 
No. He was estimated at 242mph during the Gumball 3000 in the US.
 
Famine
No. He was estimated at 242mph during the Gumball 3000 in the US.
Ahh yes, I remember hearing how his car got impounded in Northern Florida after said speeding ticket! Gumball 3000 is a great movie, I highly recommend it.

As for the whole case of the guy on the bike, after hearing about the equipment of the Minnesota State Police, the whole claim has absolutely no validity. A pilot in a cessna would have no chance of being able to accurately calculate the speed of the guy on the bike unless he had a co-pilot onboard (which is what I assumed at first).
 
The first point, the one having to do with speed of the plane, isn't very valid.

The pilot (or the chrono operator) could have been above, he doesn't have to fly directly above the cycle for the entire chase. He could have been very far away and still read the speed with simple calculations, traveling at low speeds. You don't need to be standing directly above the chase the whole time...
 
He was arrested for wreckless driving, fined $115 for driving without a motorcycle endorsement, and $215 for going 140 mph over the speed limit.

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$215 for 140mph over the limit? The ****?! I've had to pay over $300 for less than 15-20mph over the posted limit.
 
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