$20M Cars – How?

[SteveO1965]

Someone on F-chat as the P4 allready.

 

[AgentGT]

Then GT5 and esp GT mode isn't the game for you. There are plenty of cars to drive without the time investment needed. It's a moot point as there are NO GAMES out there of this calibre that does not require meaningful amounts of time to have meaningful experiences. Want cheap thrills? buy mario kart

👎 Most simulators have things open from the start.

Race 07 wouldn't have been much fun if i had to earn millions of £'s in F3000 to buy an Alfa to compete in the WTCC.

Typical elitist GT player, "If everything was available to the masses too easily how would i make myself feel special."

If someone told me that I was going to have to stick with used Skylines from the 90s and Yarises/Vitzes because I'd have to make GT5 a full time job to afford the really exciting cars, I'd never have bought the game.

Yeah, part of me is starting to think this too.

 

[Sturdy]

While I can see people's point of view, I do hope the whambulance is stopping by soon.

 

[MidianGTX]

I've got an XJ13 and you're not missing out on much.

I've got an XJ13 and this is the falsest statement on GTP.

 

[OkeyD]

I've got an XJ13 and this is the falsest statement on GTP.

Hush. I'm trying to make them feel better

 

[MidianGTX]

Hush. I'm trying to make them feel better

Oh right. Yeah it's pretty crappy... handles like a Bulgarian castle on coasters.

 

[James24]

Then GT5 and esp GT mode isn't the game for you. There are plenty of cars to drive without the time investment needed. It's a moot point as there are NO GAMES out there of this calibre that does not require meaningful amounts of time to have meaningful experiences. Want cheap thrills? buy mario kart

Why should I spend 200hours mindlessly grinding 1 oval event?

There should be effort involved, but it should be fun and rewarding. These super rare cars should be rewards for completing the hardest events.

I also have a life to live and a degree to earn. I can't spend 10hours a day playing GT but I would still like to play with the all the cars at some point.

 

[MidianGTX]

Why should I spend 200hours mindlessly grinding 1 oval event?

There should be effort involved, but it should be fun and rewarding. These super rare cars should be rewards for completing the hardest events.

I also have a life to live and a degree to earn. I can't spend 10hours a day playing GT but I would still like to play with the all the cars at some point.

No one said you had to do the same event over and over. The GT series has always required time investment, there's nothing new here. If it's not your type of game then it's not your type of game. Go find one that is.

 

[Schwarzenegger]

I did find an old GT40 (I think) for 19,000,000 something cr in the used car dealership.

 

[Dan360]

So, if a car costs 20mil to buy, will it take 10mil to repair the chassis? I am on the statement that a full chassis overhaul will cost half the price of the car. I read this from the 'high damage bill' thread.

 

[vsaber]

I was thinking maybe they can do an online GT championship thingy in the future, that is provided they can "fix" the online portion of the game...
I didn't play GTP but I heard that you earn much more racing online than offline?
I think this will be a good idea.

 

[AgentGT]

No one said you had to do the same event over and over. The GT series has always required time investment, there's nothing new here. If it's not your type of game then it's not your type of game. Go find one that is.

If it wasn't for people buying these games in the numbers they do no-one would have GT5.

Allowing the player to experience the game fully without too much repetition is good game design.

GT5 just appears woefully unbalanced compared in this aspect compared to it's predecessors.

 

[Pesmerga7551]

If someone told me that I was going to have to stick with used Skylines from the 90s and Yarises/Vitzes because I'd have to make GT5 a full time job to afford the really exciting cars, I'd never have bought the game.



In fact that means GT5 isn't the game for most people. Still many are surprised and angry when casual gamers say they think GT5 is too much work for them to be fun.

First addressing the black bolded section. Idiot is all I got. Yes their are cars that cost millions, just like in rel life. What the hell did you think GT is all about? It's about earning your cars. It doesn't take a lot of time to get most cars, like Ferrari's 458, Enzo or so on. Unlike you, I think some of those cars that are super rare and only in collections in real life should be only sold in auctions, not in a dealership. They are priceless. None of them have 0 miles. I think OD should have had these rare cars even harder to unlock, like they only go on auction once in a blue moon (so yes, they'd have to add auctions). Also, the used car dealership would be less random and have more than 20-30 cars in it at one time. Should show most cars, divided by manufacturer would be easiest. Anyways buying Legendary cars isn't anyone's "right".

Now to the red. You're again, a total dolt. It's to much work for you, don't speak for the majority. Ever!

 

[Morsolo]

I think OD should have had these rare cars even harder to unlock, like they only go on auction once in a blue moon (so yes, they'd have to add auctions).

Now that's an interesting concept. Global Worldwide Online Auctions! PD can make a few "Limited Edition" cars and set up an Online Auction, it'll pop up in "Community" and everyone worldwide can bid for the special car.

Imagine the possibilities! "KY Signature Edition" Cars, that are in (eg) Silver, with KY's Signature on the hood. "Polyphony Digital Paint Ticket", paints a car a cool PD Paint Job. Or perhaps even an entirely new Premium car, maybe only 1,000 are released, all specially numbered. You could have special types of Auctions, based on the user, "USA only", "EU only", "Teenagers", "Old Timers", etc.

It would do really well for those among us who are the true collectors of virtual automotive beauty

 

[MidianGTX]

If it wasn't for people buying these games in the numbers they do no-one would have GT5.

Allowing the player to experience the game fully without too much repetition is good game design.

GT5 just appears woefully unbalanced compared in this aspect compared to it's predecessors.

No it isn't, games by their very nature aren't necessarily intended to appeal to absolutely everyone. That's an additional challenge added by people who create games in order to make money. Sure, what you're saying makes sense from a business point of view and is good for PD's sake, but there's no rule that says a game has to be designed to adhere to everyone's tastes. This game happens to be one that is built for those who enjoy spending time with their cars. If you don't have the time, Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit will deliver racing thrills in 5-minute bursts.

 

[AgentGT]

No it isn't, games by their very nature aren't necessarily intended to appeal to absolutely everyone. That's an additional challenge added by people who create games in order to make money. Sure, what you're saying makes sense from a business point of view and is good for PD's sake, but there's no rule that says a game has to be designed to adhere to everyone's tastes. This game happens to be one that is built for those who enjoy spending time with their cars. If you don't have the time, Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit will deliver racing thrills in 5-minute bursts.

But it won't come anything near the simulation part of GT.

It's the game part of GT that's getting in the way of the driving the particular car i want, on the tracks i want and against the opposition i want.

I've driven endurance events and other races that take hours to practice, qualify for online in games like R-Factor and Race 07 where i never had a chance of winning, so it isn't about cheap thrills for me.

 

[AgentGT]

First addressing the black bolded section. Idiot is all I got. Yes their are cars that cost millions, just like in rel life. What the hell did you think GT is all about? It's about earning your cars. It doesn't take a lot of time to get most cars, like Ferrari's 458, Enzo or so on. Unlike you, I think some of those cars that are super rare and only in collections in real life should be only sold in auctions, not in a dealership. They are priceless. None of them have 0 miles. I think OD should have had these rare cars even harder to unlock, like they only go on auction once in a blue moon (so yes, they'd have to add auctions). Also, the used car dealership would be less random and have more than 20-30 cars in it at one time. Should show most cars, divided by manufacturer would be easiest. Anyways buying Legendary cars isn't anyone's "right".

Now to the red. You're again, a total dolt. It's to much work for you, don't speak for the majority. Ever!

Typical snobbery of a GT obsessive.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

GT5 is NOT a "casual" game. The Gran Turismo series has always been the World of Warcraft of racers. This statement is a million times more true with GT5 than it ever has been, with levels and online now.

World of Carcraft!

But World of Warcraft does cater to casuals. If you've ever frequented one of their forums, holy cow. "I pay $15 a month and can blahblahwhineblah!" is the basic gist of it.

GT5 somewhat does, what with the gradual ramping of difficulty and damage you cannot override, but people forget that purchasing a game does not entitle them to every feature and option without some investment of time. A few act quite shocked at this, which is amusing, but understandable if it's their first game in the series.

 

[AgentGT]

World of Carcraft!

But World of Warcraft does cater to casuals. If you've ever frequented one of their forums, holy cow. "I pay $15 a month and can blahblahwhineblah!" is the basic gist of it.

GT5 somewhat does, what with the gradual ramping of difficulty and damage you cannot override, but people forget that purchasing a game does not entitle them to every feature and option without some investment of time. A few act quite shocked at this, which is amusing, but understandable if it's their first game in the series.

Time not so much, but the prospect of repetitive races too gain something, be it a car or event is not something i find enjoyable. The variety is just not there.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Time not so much, but the prospect of repetitive races too gain something, be it a car or event is not something i find enjoyable. The variety is just not there.

I pretty much agree. It makes me miss the ability to farm prize cars to fund projects, but it seems as if a lot of people want something for nothing.

 

[cleanLX]

I'm 43 years old.
I have a real career which means I'm too burnt out after work to play on weekdays, and I like to spend time with my wife.
I have several other hobbies (Jeepin' mtn biking walking my dogs hiking etc.). to take up time on weekends.
I have a house, a yard and vehicles to maintain to take up more time yet again.

I have no complaints with the money system of GT5 nor any complaints about how much time must be invested to unlock stuff.
I figure I'll be able to play this game for years... just like I did with GT4.

Bunch-o-crybabies

 

[Lillee]

I'm 43 years old.
I have a real career which means I'm too burnt out after work to play on weekdays, and I like to spend time with my wife.
I have several other hobbies (Jeepin' mtn biking walking my dogs hiking etc.). to take up time on weekends.
I have a house, a yard and vehicles to maintain to take up more time yet again.

I have no complaints with the money system of GT5 nor any complaints about how much time must be invested to unlock stuff.
I figure I'll be able to play this game for years... just like I did with GT4.

Bunch-o-crybabies

Hear hear! That dude earlier that has to study for a degree is carrying on about not having enough time to properly plat GT5 for what it is, DUDE!!! wait till you have kids!

The game is what it is folks, if you don't like it, go and trade it in for something more suited to your playing style that requires no levelling up and no hard work. Just like WOW may not be for you, consider that GT5 may also not be for you period. Don't feel that you have a "right" to have a game unlocked completely from day one for your convenience. I re-iterate the Super Mario analogy, you do not start on level 1 with a fireball mario fighting Bowser! How popular a game would it have been if this were the case?

Hell, why didn't pinball machines start you out with a 10,000,000,000 points straight away for your convenience??? What were they thinking that I would want to use 2 paddles to grind me way to a high score!? crazy game developers

GT5 IS A GAME

 

[MowTin]

With this formula, it would take about 20 hours to buy JUST the Ferrari 330P4 (20,000,000 credits).

Wow, even at minimum wage ($8/hour) that's $160. Remember time is money.

Would you really pay $160 for a virtual car? Not me.

I think the only way to earn money for cars like that is through online races so you earn while you're having fun. Grinding is stupid and a waste of time/money.

 

[filphil89]

Hear hear! That dude earlier that has to study for a degree is carrying on about not having enough time to properly plat GT5 for what it is, DUDE!!! wait till you have kids!

The game is what it is folks, if you don't like it, go and trade it in for something more suited to your playing style that requires no levelling up and no hard work. Just like WOW may not be for you, consider that GT5 may also not be for you period. Don't feel that you have a "right" to have a game unlocked completely from day one for your convenience. I re-iterate the Super Mario analogy, you do not start on level 1 with a fireball mario fighting Bowser! How popular a game would it have been if this were the case?

Hell, why didn't pinball machines start you out with a 10,000,000,000 points straight away for your convenience??? What were they thinking that I would want to use 2 paddles to grind me way to a high score!? crazy game developers

GT5 IS A GAME

You're SO right. I forgot that mario didn't get his fireballs until world 1-3. How silly must I have been to forget something like that!? You, sir, are amazing to have made this comparison.

We're not worrying about getting to bowser with fireballs. We're worrying about getting the fireballs in the first place.

 

[cygnus_zero]

Its done this way to add replayability, keeping you coming back with something to work towards, its a good thing.

Its like this in Forza 3 except it even worse, because of the auction house, people started setting up garages, where painters and tuners would team up to create some kick ass cars, and they were very experience. So it was like GT5, except that there was no end. GT5 will end at some point, Forza basically has unlimited cars and I actually ended up getting overwhelmed by it.

Every time I looked in the tuning garage section of their site I was seeing many cars everyday I wanted, and there's just no way to have all of them. Depends on how you look at it, GT5 has a set goal and an end, Forza can go on forever, some like it one way, others dont.

 

[Wdave]

This isnt WoW. The GT5 community are mostly filled with people who enjoy playing GT5 but also have something else to do outside GT5

WoW is filled with people who have no life, from what i've met of WoW players

I have a life. I'd also like to drive some expensive cars on a game that I paid money for.

If going online with hacked cars is an issue, I'm happy for them to disable the online feature of my game in return for a gameplay that allows met o make a lot of money, save mid-championship, repeat races within championships, and general things that makes a game more like fun and less like a heap of work

I resent that comment
I Do have a life outside of WoW, and I have downed 25man Heroic Lich King. You don't need not to have a life in order to play WoW, you just need to be consistent and build up a good reputation to get in a good guild.
Now Back on topic....
I need the cash to get a saleen S7 whenever it pops up

 

[elephant]

GT2-4 were more fun along the way and there were easy exploits to get cash and get good cars. Then I could take my memory card to a friend's house and we could race.

Now I have to run a couple garbage races every night for weeks to buy one really nice car. Well, that is not fun - and fun is the point of a GAME. If DP removes all the easy ways to access the fun then they have killed the game.

And I completely disagree with GT5 being anything like WoW. WoW CANNOT be played alone at home on my game console; it is an MMORPG. The point of MMORPG is to play with others, gather experience, earn good gear, etc. GT5 is a driving simulator where no one would ever know if I had all the best cars.

And if I did race my "unearned" cars online I would lose and you could mock me. GT5 is all about skill and practice where most MMORPG are probability based meaning better gear actually makes you better at the game.

So sad as this could have been a really fun game.

 

[elephant]

Wow, even at minimum wage ($8/hour) that's $160. Remember time is money.

Would you really pay $160 for a virtual car? Not me.

I think the only way to earn money for cars like that is through online races so you earn while you're having fun. Grinding is stupid and a waste of time/money.

Until I start buying cars on eBay.

Anyone want to unlock the whole game and sell me a cloned HDD?

 

[eagle12311]

It took me 6 months to beat gt4. It normally takes me a few weeks to beat other race game. By beat I mean complete all events, and get all cars. I hope this game takes me that long once i get it. I cannot wait until xmas.

 

[Samer305]

Just got the 330 p4 ferrari and ford mk IV in a trade for my stealth car. If you guys have a yellowbird ruf, there is a good chance people will trade there $20 million cars for it.