450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT

[RockinVs]

i somehow always got caught up in the first turn mess.... or i would get one wheel off and slide out.

still was fun. we should have done one or 2 races with 2 laps.

 

[esoxhntr]

I didn't find the 1st turn mess to be that bad last night, with a couple of exceptions..

Next week I think we'll do the 24hr version/change time and I'll add in a couple 2 lappers. 2 laps on the 24hr version @ 450 pp will be close to a 24hr cycle at 60 time progression so I think we'll do that once or twice.

if you guys want any kind of a theme that is not FF or AWD only then speak up.

 

[RockinVs]

the first turn was ok, but i meant the first few turns. once higher speeds were involved. it wasnt that i was always bumped, just slowing down for all the others.

 

[RotaryFreak]

Great racing as always in the "Ring" and i have to admit i was rusty the first 2 races, couldnt get my bearing! 2 weeks absence?
was kinda when one incident took me out of the race... YOU knw Who you are!!! but all is well!

a few bumps here and there especially the first few turns as everyone trying to get into position before the first straightaway was the caused of some early crashes. Couldnt take my eyes of Fatrab blue Miata with matching blue rims... and when Funge drove his Mitsu Imiev (correct me if im wrong). Overall it was anybody's ballgame... with one exception, that guy in the Evora was fast....

although in race 4-5 i noticed glitching, was booted out of the room for no apparent reason.

 

[RockinVs]

i had to leave and come back at one time too. i couldnt see half the field. after that, all was better.

 

[RotaryFreak]

i had to leave and come back at one time too. i couldnt see half the field. after that, all was better.

you were duking out with someone (i forgot the name but i have the replay) and both your car were pretty mangled and you guys were erratic on some part of the course. probably lag or something.

 

[chuyler1]

Reminder for tonight:

Thursday 6/16: Same Make/Model Night -- 450pp, Audi TT '03 (premium), SS Tires
Any and all performance parts allowed for tuning the car.
Tracks: Nurburgring GP/F, Lobby Vote
Winner of first race picks the Make/Model and track for next week.
--Host: chuyler1 (PSN: chuyler1)

 

[RotaryFreak]

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[chuyler1]

I love seeing people pull out their theme cars on this open night. It's so much more refreshing than seeing a line up of NSXs, RX-8s, RX-7s, Evoras, and Elises.

 

[RotaryFreak]

I love seeing people pull out their theme cars on this open night. It's so much more refreshing than seeing a line up of NSXs, RX-8s, RX-7s, Evoras, and Elises.

the last 2 races was a chance for me to fine tune my Audi TT for tonights race. Thats me on the other orange Audi with the painted carbon hood. Sorry i forgot who was driving the other one. Hard to remember when your at work.

 

[RockinVs]

you were duking out with someone (i forgot the name but i have the replay) and both your car were pretty mangled and you guys were erratic on some part of the course. probably lag or something.

i didnt see people lagging... but osprey is in canada so it could have been.

and the other orange TT was me. That last pic is just before i hit you (when spinning since i had no place to go) and got a collision penalty that brought be to last place.

 

[chuyler1]

Sweet You should be good to go for tonight. I haven't done any online racing with mine so i will likely have to do some suspension tweaks. i had a short practice session the other day to get my corner speeds down.

Turn 2 is tough. You can't quite take it WOT so there will likely be some bumping. there really isn't a defined brake or lift-off point.

Turn 3 is worse. You need to turn in very late to get a good run on turn 4...but people always duck inside you thinking you are going wide. I will likely take a safer approach to that turn to avoid people cutting inside me during the race. Anyone who hasn't practiced the track simply won't understand it.

Watch this video and pay attention to turn 3. Notice how the apex doesn't appear on the camera until right when he hits it. You don't track out after it, instead you stay inside so you can straighten out turn 4.

 

[MikeTheHockeyFan]

I love same car races.

See all y'all tonight.

 

[RockinVs]

unfortunately i am working tonight, so i cannot make it. i got my days off wrong.

it is still a good car though. it handles nicely.

 

[chuyler1]

Yeah, in practice, i didn't do very much to the suspension. I think the racing will be closer than in the Delta. Either that or i just didn't do the right things to make it faster.

 

[RotaryFreak]

didnt got the chance to join the first, but im betting its gonna be fun. Now cars are out of the equation, it will be the tuning part and the driver's skills that matter.

 

[chuyler1]

Exactly. Part selection, transmission and suspension tuning, and driver skill will all play a key role.

 

[polizei]

Booch FTW! 👍

 

[polizei]

i propose we start on a different track, do a couple of races so that people get familiar with the TT, then do the Ring GP track winner gets next week's pick. It would be nice to have an opportunity to make some changes and have more competition for the pick.

 

[k_riens]

Ummm, no.

The car and track were announced June 11. You've had plenty of time to practice. I'm sure other people already have.

If you're worried about finishing behind me, go fire up your ps3 and start practicing now. 💡

 

[chuyler1]

The idea is to practice and tune before the first race. Who ever is best prepared gets the honors the next week. The room will be open for some time before the first race at 10:00 so you can use that time to compare lap times.

 

[polizei]

yeah but at least 50% of us don't have time to test and tune cars during the day. my only time on the game is spent racing online, tuning while im racing. It was only a suggestion.

 

[sl3ight]

Totally forgot that it's single make night. I need to set this thing up really quick

 

[k_riens]

yeah but at least 50% of us don't have time to test and tune cars during the day. my only time on the game is spent racing online, tuning while im racing. It was only a suggestion.

A couple enterprising individuals did it last night in front of everyone.

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[sl3ight]

I keep getting disconnected from the server.

 

[fatrab]

Good choice of car and track tonight Nic. Looking forward to next week's single make night.

Like I said in the room after the second race, the start was way too scrappy. I got punted on the turn after the loop to loop and when I watched the replay it seemed like a lot of drivers were just trying to jam themselves into spots where they shouldn't have been to gain position.

Can we do something about this?

 

[esh]

Good choice of car and track tonight Nic. Looking forward to next week's single make night.

Like I said in the room after the second race, the start was way too scrappy. I got punted on the turn after the loop to loop and when I watched the replay it seemed like a lot of drivers were just trying to jam themselves into spots where they shouldn't have been to gain position.

Can we do something about this?

Yeah I only stayed on the first track for 5 or 6 laps after k_reins did that to me. I had like 200-300 ft lead going into the first corner, which k_reins dove in front of me just missing and going wide out the back. I stayed with the line of the track in turn 2, got bumped again as he used me as a brake but not too bad. Continued within the line of the course for turn 3 and got bumped twice though I was right on the apex and he with 2 wheels on the grass.

I didn't once see any part of his car in font of me until turn 3 when I was starting to exit and didn't watch the replay but I'm pretty sure I had the right of way.

Last 2 nights I've had similar experiences, leaving a bad taste in my mouth. There were a couple guys I hadn't seen before that were way too aggressive Wednesday and didn't even stop after blowing through corners and shoving me off the track though one did apologize after the race. Badabing on the other hand kept right on trucking.

 

[chuyler1]

Congrats to Nic for finishing first, and WiiFreak for a 2nd place finish. Since Nic picked this week, WiiFreak gets to pick a premium car that can be tuned for 450pp on sport soft tires. Also pick a track that will promote clean racing and passing opportunities.


As for the starts. I agree they were very sloppy. The first few turns of any race drivers should not expect to be running at the full limits of their tires. The first turn is not about passing 4 cars, its about turning a double file start into a single file running order. Just because you get the jump on someone off the grid doesn't give you the right to make it 4-wide into turn 1. After all, the draft skews starts significantly so that cars toward the rear have passing power when they really shouldn't.

The room was private so everyone there was on my friend list...some drivers were just being way to aggressive and attempting passes in places that simply slow down the entire pack. I myself am guilty of tapping someone on the first turn...but rather than plow through, I lifted off and slowed to make sure they got back on the track. During that split second, I was plowed over by several cars.

I think a good tip for the front cars, or all cars, is to move to the inside of the track immediately after the start. Hug the inside of the turn at a slower pace and force any divebombers to the outside. Don't give them the option to go inside on you. If you watch real racing this is typically what happens.

Also, check your friggen mirrors and program buttons to look left and right. There is no excuse for pushing someone off the outside of the track because you didn't see them.

 

[chuyler1]

I had like 200-300 ft lead going into the first corner, which k_reins

I was the victim of a divebomb by k_reins in that first race while I was attempting to catch the leaders. I heard an apology afterward, but it slowed me enough that I never quite got the car's draft in front of me for the rest of the race.

 

[chuyler1]

yeah but at least 50% of us don't have time to test and tune cars during the day. my only time on the game is spent racing online, tuning while im racing. It was only a suggestion.

There is usually time before the races each night prior to Thursday. As mentioned above, several drivers were tuning their Audis Wednesday. My lobby is open for a big block of time. I actually bumped the start time to 9:45 so I wasn't in such a rush to get on. Sometimes I spend a few minutes tuning a car or running special events before I open the room. In short, no one is forcing you to be in the room the entire time. There is a good 15-30 minutes before the first race to tune and compare times.

I did not appreciate whoever cut the chicane to put down a 1:15 lap time on the first race. People worked hard to get their starting grid positions. I can't assume it was the person who actually got the pole since I myself was only 3 10ths off the fastest time before that and I ended up toward the back after I exited to verify everyone was in the right car. I think I may insist drivers enter the pits when they are ready. Its obvious PD has not resolved the starting grid issues.