5 reasons GT6 is a PS4 game

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by Mulan, Aug 13, 2012.

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  1. Mulan

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    PD needs more time :)

    I read that developers are worried about resources managing so many platforms. PS3, 4, Vita, Xbox360, 720, PC, Wii U, Wii, DS...and all theese are still supported. Not easy to do games.
     
  2. Samus

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    Sony can't afford to make a premium console though, we've been through this. You only have to look at the cheap materials used in the new slim PS3 to see what they think of 'premium' work.

    Also you may be willing to pay the same as PS4 cost but the general public won't be, not without something significant that validates the price tag as Blu-Ray did in the PS3. Promise of 4k when they can't afford a £10,000 TV to benefit isn't going to cut it.
     
  3. Zuku

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    You are an extreme minority while you can pay that price the rest of us that really help Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo with sales cannot.

    Talking about being the most premium no one cares about that honestly I could care less about Music Unlimited, and most of those other apps even Playstation Home became quite boring after awhile.

    When I play Playstation Games are first and last with BD/DVD movies being in there as well.

    Technically speaking they way you make it sound GT6 could have 4K gaming slapped on it's case launch for PS4 you'll be the only one gullible enough to fall for it.

    Also to make matters worse if GT6 on PS4 turned out to be Madden 06 for Xbox 360 you'd still buy(Hint: That was the worse Madden ever because everything had been stripped out).

    Edit: Only because it would have 4K gaming
     
  4. Mulan

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    i am a beliver, and the signs i see are the way i hope they end up. And i think gt players are investing more, like in a wheel (chairs/stands) which isnt cheap but people buy them just for a game. so there is money out there if it is worth investing in.
     
  5. Samus

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    Where exactly are the signs of an expensive, 4k gaming machine exactly? You've posted opinion pieces, you've posted your own opinions and you've posted articles talking about 4k video but I've not seen any signs that the PS4 will be a $600+ machine capable of 4k gaming.
     
  6. Zuku

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    Again that's a minority although I'd love to have a wheel and chair and what not at this point in my life it isn't necessary.

    I don't know if I call you a believer or just plain blind.

    You remind me of one of those people that go out to buy something just to one-up another person when the other guy you 1-up doesn't give a crap.
     
  7. Mulan

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    well i havent seen the opposite either, no convincing evidence other than speculating from your side too. Checking the net there are many claiming 4k gaming and Sony is pushing 4k hard. Just check their homepage, its a main feature. And we have tech coming up that can help this come true. So I am not convinced otherwise until Sony says so.
     
  8. Mulan

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    world is a big place, what is expensive to you is ok to others. not like sony is going for 100% coverage. They have this strategy for Tv now, lower sellnumbers but going for best quality...means they left the cheap sets to others.
    in this case they might keep the ps3 alive, earn money on it and have the ps4 lot more expensive for those who want more.
     
  9. Zuku

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    Ok they can keep pushing it, but it doesn't mean the masses will buy into it look what happened with the PS Vita tried to go the route of no discs, and it seems to have backfired.

    For one because games are bigger than music files and even movie files(some).

    After reading this random article on google about how Sony is trying to push it. I say let them and fall flat on their face yet again. SDTV to HDTV they got people to buy in because from face value without doing much research the differences seem pretty big at the time.
     
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    Yes the world is a big place, but if they cater more to people like you they'll be out of business in 5 years.

    We all want premium stuff, but unnecessary things like 4K gaming especially since it might not get activated until say 2020 or later can be left alone until it's actually useful.

    Like seriously it's 2012 and how many games are 1080p native on PS3? How about we focus on that first I think the only game I've ever played that had native 1080 is Wipeout HD/Fury and I just might be wrong.
     
  11. Samus

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    Sony is pushing 4k VIDEO. VIDEO. How many more times, they have not once mentioned 4k GAMING.
     
  12. Lock2Lock

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    Yeah the picture where the people were playing GT5 on those TVs is probably confusing them.

    Plus only time will tell. They would have to lower the price of those TVs by a lot for anyone to really afford them
     
  13. Zuku

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    Question just got done reading another article well actually it's comment section this is the link: http://www.gamesthirst.com/2012/08/22/ps4-to-support-4k-resolution/

    Is that guy nick telling the truth about 4K says something about a docco that was only 150 mins long and was talking about the first thing ever shot in 4K, but the size is 750GB

    Basically does this have merit to it or any truth?
     
  14. Samus

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    Resolution alone doesn't affect filesize. You can have a 320x240 video or a 1920x1080 video, if the bitrate is the same then the filesize is the same. Of course the higher the resolution you need higher bitrate so it's not full of macroblocking but I don't believe the bitrate for 4k would need to be that much higher than current 1080p standards, not with modern compression formats like H.264.
     
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    Ok I will admit when it comes to this stuff I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject, but when I hear 750GB at least for now I know that's not small. Plus when I think about download speeds out here in the country(which means rural areas for those that don't know) that's not good for people like me.

    I know it can be compressed, but thing is like how far cause even 250GB wouldn't be enough just saying.

    I've already got trouble with downloading games like DC Universe online(when I did have it).
     
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    :tup:

    You could add that in two years after PS4 release we would get better hardware for 4k tech.

    Sony would be stupid to produce a 800 dollar console. A console is a mass market product.

    Products must be affordable for a huge range of people. Why the companies don't sell their latest technogie?
    Because they need to reduce the cost.

    That is marketing. I think they will push for 4k and say the PS4 can do it. They did the same with the PS3, but the PS4 will not run games in nativ 4K. It will be used for movies and so on.

    You can't compare sony with apple products. Apple are one of the best in the business in terms of marketing.

    They could sell an egg for 20$.

    Are we really talking about 4k gaming? The next gen should push for 1080p, because in this gen we only have a few games. I think <10 games with 1080p native.
     
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    Eggs design is very apple-like.

    Also mulan you are not considering in this gen there are very few games that run at 1080p on consoles (all say they do but they don't), let alone at stable 60fps. To reach 4k you have to reach 1080p first.
     
  18. Saidur_Ali

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    I think GT6 will be a PS3 game and hopefully it comes out in 2013.

    PS4 should be able to support 4K gaming unless they go for slightly above Wii U specs which I doubt. If they spend half the amount the original PS3 cost them to make, then they should be able to do 4K gaming of some sort. Soon as they are already trying with PS3, I think it is very likely the next-generation of Gran Turismo will have 4K support.

    Best thing for Sony and Microsoft is that hardware is coming towards them in the short term in terms of longevity and costs. It should cost them less to make than there current consoles did at launch and graphically have more than 10 times the performance at a minimum if say it is getting released in 2013-2014. I'm hoping for a 2015 release when they can get something out that should have 15-20 times the GPU power. They might even state a figure higher depending on which route they go, AMD or Nvidia. The problem for Sony and Microsoft is price reduction might be hard to do for a good few years but benefits will start coming later in the cycle.
     
  19. Tornado

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    Right. Sony, spending only $450-500 per system (after 6 years of inflation), will be able to make a console that can render games 4 times the resolution that the PS3 could only theoretically do and almost never achieved in practice. Best post yet over this discussion.



    But let's see what Simon's chart says:

    So. Unless you are suggesting Sony outfit a pair of GTX 690s in this instead of the 680s Simon showed (which retail for a thousand dollars each) and then do some Hollywood Accounting to make it look like $450-500, no. I'm not seeing it. Granted, Simon's chart is misleading because modern PC games are on an entirely different level than current console games for reasons other than resolution, pushing far more effects than console titles do and running at higher native resolutions. But people will expect games to look notably better in at least some what next generation, and upping the resolution won't do that by itself, so console games will need to push effects too.
     
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  20. daan

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    I think has run it's course and it has went way off topic.

    If you wish to discuss the PS4/Orbis, then do so here.

    If you wish to discuss GT6, then are numerous threads in this forum that would be suitable for your needs.
     
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