6 hours doing the Sebastian Vettel challenge

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put controller sensitivity at 7, i use a ds3 so i dont know if this option is available for wheels, but i beat nurburgring in 2 tries after changing from the default 0. the car is really twitchy but it makes it much more responsive. Dont be afraid to experiment a little with the car too, I was driving a little too cautiously to avoid making a mistake, but the things this car can get away with is amazing. try to turn a little earlier before getting to the turn i find helps as well. Do not drive any other cars as they will mess with your rhythm, keep trying 1 track a time and it shouldnt take you that long, it looks at impossible at first, but as with anything else thats difficult you just have to keep trying.

Another thing unless you get DQed try not to restart everytime you make a mistake or feel you did a section too slowly, because you'll never learn that way, instead finish the whole lap so you can see how much it affected your time and to learn the track as a whole
 
saidur_ali
Simulators are often used to find out how something will work in the real world and this prototype car was developed with real world guidelines. The point of the simulator was to test out how fast the car would be without making it and that it was quite a few F1 teams do. They test out 'imaginary' parts on a 'imaginary' car and see how it will work out on the sim too before manufacturing the part for use in real world testing on a car. Don't forget the FGT is also a made up car and it is now a GT series trend, I wonder if they will try and make a revised fastest Formula car again. I also wonder if Adrian Newey got a few good ideas from the X2010 that made the RB6 and RB7 much faster in real world F1.

I think Kaz said himself that some car manufacturers wanted to use GT as a sim to see how well a new concept car would drive.

Anyway, interesting title although I know this thread is old. I took about 5 hours I think to Gold all three and that felt ages to me considering the challenge in terms of total lap time was less than 10 minutes to complete. There must be quite a lot of top players who did this challenge quickly, probably under 1-2 hours if they used SRF like I did. I used a DFGT though so I have massive respect for people doing it with a pad as I tried around Suzuka with a pad and failed miserably and think getting Bronze would be just as hard for me with a pad as getting gold with a wheel.
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I understand that. I just think that it defies the logic of creating the car in a simulator when no driver, human at least, could withstand the ridiculous G-force numbers it produces. Better yet is the fact that it impedes players who don't have a steering wheel from getting the Platinum.

BarronGeddoni
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Whatever.
 
I feel for you, mate. 6hrs of doing that would end up giving me grand mal seizures.:ouch:
 
The tricks that helped me the most were to increase the controller sensitivity to 2 on the DS3 and when I got into a corner I would look at the next one already. It's specially true in Nurburgring and Suzuka. Looking far into the corners really helped me.
 
Merov
The tricks that helped me the most were to increase the controller sensitivity to 2 on the DS3 and when I got into a corner I would look at the next one already. It's specially true in Nurburgring and Suzuka. Looking far into the corners really helped me.
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I've a DFGT, but this is how Idid it too. You look through the corner you're in, towards the next corner, and you line the camera back up so you're poining the way you are looking.

Edit: Chase cam is also important, for your periferal vision to see where the car is on track, in relation to the corner's apex.
 
i got close on monza 2min10.199 was soo gutted i think the sazuka circuit is impossible
 
Finally made it to this level, I really gotta play GT5 more often.
 
I went back to this yesterday, I already had Monza from before and just did Suzuka and Nurby in under 30 minutes of trying. I think the times for bronze got easier, as I used to be nowhere near. No idea how people get gold. Kudos to them.

Didn't enjoy it, cartoon handling. Not really what I'd consider driving.

My point, I'm mediocre at best, so it's totally possible (with a wheel)

I changed the view so I could see the front wing (it gives a higher view than cockpit/bumper) and put the racing line on, the breaking zones are too early, but by the time you react to them, you should be braking on time haha :)
 
Tried them once, didn´t have fun so i skippt the vettel challenge.
 
hi C. I passd vettel on the first chicane on the first lap .hit the first one just right and you will fly right passed him.:) sorry i meant second chicane
 
I did Suzuka and on the first try, i got gold. But I need to practise more on Monza and on Nürburgring.
Too frustrating sometimes..:grumpy:
 
WeShallNverStop
I did Suzuka and on the first try, i got gold. But I need to practise more on Monza and on Nürburgring.
Too frustrating sometimes..:grumpy:
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Monza is incredibly easy! Just cut those chicanes! I'm 0.2 seconds of Suzuka though and haven't really put much effort into Nurburgring but that's pants compared to Suzuka!
 
experiment with controller sensitivity, don't just set it to 7 right away. mine was at 3-4 depending on track. skid recovery on, unless you are against that sort of thing. tcs is up to you. abs again don't crank it to 7 right away, start low.

start with monza, definately the easiest if you cut the chicanes a bit, got it second try :D. suzuka is a bit tougher, some say the hardest but I love the track so it was no so difficult for me, still 4 tries until I finally got around. nurburgring.. I am very bad at this track and it took maybe 7 or 8 tries, do not remember exactly but I managed bronze on all by a few seconds.

if you finish one lap the second should not be a problem. just do as you did on the previous lap and you will at least get a bronze. brake late, throttle early (if you have aids on, REALLY tough without them)
 
Finally got it, took me about an hour with Suzuka but I got the X1. I kept pushing myself too hard one the second lap.
 
I couldn't beat it until the controller sensitivity could be adjusted. All I did was set sensitivity to 5 and was done with all three in an less than an hour.
 
Revivin' threads like an Ambo!

After finishing gold licences and the AMG challenge in gold (none if which had I touched since back when I was using a DS3), I thought I'd have a quick crack at the Vettel Challenge. Three laps on the Nurburgring track later, I had bronze, and so I gave Monza a go. First lap: bronze, onto Suzuka. First lap: bronze.

I know getting gold and getting bronze on these are two, totally different things, but I am really surprised at how much easier it is to gain bronze with a wheel. From memory, when I tried with a DS3 all those months ago, I could only manage to finish Monza once and that time was way outside bronze.
 
I think they changed the bronze times if I remember. I bet most of the people in the thread could now get bronze compared to before.

I have gold on two and bronze on the other. One gold earned, the other glitched.
 
m8h3r
I think they changed the bronze times if I remember. I bet most of the people in the thread could now get bronze compared to before.

I have gold on two and bronze on the other. One gold earned, the other glitched.
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Nice work (well, not the glitch), but, for me, it's more than a matter of beating a time. When I tried with a DS3, I was lucky to crawl through a valid lap. With the wheel, it was much more controllable.

I wonder how much they reduced the bronze times by. Any idea?

Edit: I just had a look on YouTube at an old Suzuka Vettel gold clip. Back then it was 2:16.500 and now it is 2:26.000. That's a significant difference, and I take some back of what I was saying. That would indeed account for some of the "ease" that I was experiencing.
 
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Teflonicus
Nice work (well, not the glitch), but, for me, it's more than a matter of beating a time. When I tried with a DS3, I was lucky to crawl through a valid lap. With the wheel, it was much more controllable.

I wonder how much they reduced the bronze times by. Any idea?
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I think it used to be like Gold is 2 minutes, Silver 2 minute 2 seconds and Bronze two minutes 4 seconds but then they changed it to Bronze being like a 15 seconds gap from Gold.

I am a DS3 user too by the way.
 
m8h3r
I think it used to be like Gold is 2 minutes, Silver 2 minute 2 seconds and Bronze two minutes 4 seconds but then they changed it to Bronze being like a 15 seconds gap from Gold.

I am a DS3 user too by the way.
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2 minutes flat?! Really? The current times for Suzuka are 2:10 for gold, 2:11.500 for silver, and 2:23.000 for bronze. 2:10 is a blisteringly fast time. I don't know anyone could take 10 seconds off of that.

After about a dozen tries/practice runs, I managed to reduce my Suzuka time down to 2:15.112. Still five solid seconds off gold though.

When you say that you are a DS3 user "too," I should make it clear that I'm no longer using sticks. As of around 3 months ago, it's the G27 for me.
 
After watching some tutorials I managed to get my first gold at Monza. I know the other two tracks are much more demanding but, I believe, beating them will be doable for me, a DS user since 2000. At Monza I made a couple of minor cock-ups but the time was surprisingly good - 2:03.6xx.

Gears: M/T
SRF: on
ABS: 10
SS: 7
Else: off

Why am I posting it? Because finally I can see the light. I thought it would be impossible to even get close to gold at any track with my skills but now I see I can do it. I was upset when I discovered I can't downgrade to 1.10 (platinum copy, installs 1.13 automatically) and use the glitch... At least now I have hope I can do it without cheating.*

* - to me, exploiting glitches is cheating. I have read a rather revolting thread about it somewhere on GTP Forums, so if you like to inform me that glitching is not cheating, please keep it (as well as eventual manure storm) to yourself.
 
Teflonicus
2 minutes flat?! Really? The current times for Suzuka are 2:10 for gold, 2:11.500 for silver, and 2:23.000 for bronze. 2:10 is a blisteringly fast time. I don't know anyone could take 10 seconds off of that.

After about a dozen tries/practice runs, I managed to reduce my Suzuka time down to 2:15.112. Still five solid seconds off gold though.

When you say that you are a DS3 user "too," I should make it clear that I'm no longer using sticks. As of around 3 months ago, it's the G27 for me.
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The gold and silver times were left the same, the bronze times were all that was adjusted.

I also have some advice if anybody still has trouble getting the desired results: practise with an X2010 / X2011 with full downforce at technical circuits. From what I can tell, most people struggle more with reaction times than anything else and the required reaction times for the full on car are much quicker. If you don't have one, ask a friend who does to put an X2010 on share.
 
Sorry, you mis-understood, or I didnt make it clear. :dopey: I wasn't saying the actual times, just a random example. I was trying to say have the silver was two seconds off gold and the bronze two seconds off silver. Then they changed the bronze to a huge gap of around 10-15 seconds.
 
mistersafeway
The gold and silver times were left the same, the bronze times were all that was adjusted.

I also have some advice if anybody still has trouble getting the desired results: practise with an X2010 / X2011 with full downforce at technical circuits. From what I can tell, most people struggle more with reaction times than anything else and the required reaction times for the full on car are much quicker. If you don't have one, ask a friend who does to put an X2010 on share.
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I have 3! I got the Red Bull livery one for reaching level 35 ages ago. The I received the carbon one in a DLC pack, and finally, with bronzes. I got another Red Bull livery one. All are 0/0/0 though.

I was planning on keeping them 0/0/0, but seeing as I received a copy of the Red Bull livery one through bronze, I may put some practice into that one. I dunno. I like 0/0/0s.:dunce: Seriously though, thanks for the advice. :)

m8h3r
Sorry, you mis-understood, or I didnt make it clear. :dopey: I wasn't saying the actual times, just a random example. I was trying to say have the silver was two seconds off gold and the bronze two seconds off silver. Then they changed the bronze to a huge gap of around 10-15 seconds.
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Ah, OK. Well I managed to get under what I believe was the old bronze time on Suzuka last night. I'm in no rush though; I think I'll stay at Suzuka and put 30 minutes in a day and see how it goes.
 
Teflonicus
Ah, OK. Well I managed to get under what I believe was the old bronze time on Suzuka last night. I'm in no rush though; I think I'll stay at Suzuka and put 30 minutes in a day and see how it goes.
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That's a good idea. Too many people play the same thing for hours on end. You need a rest and a fresh brain. Poor things getting fried playing that.
 
m8h3r
That's a good idea. Too many people play the same thing for hours on end. You need a rest and a fresh brain. Poor things getting fried playing that.
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Well ... I did stay at Suzuka for a while. I managed to get my time down to 2:13.798. Still on bronze, and four seconds is not completely out of the ballpark. I decided I needed some encouragement though and switched to Monza.

'Twas all going well after about 15 minutes of driving. I managed to get a 2:04.047. Only .047 seconds off of gold! Yey ... and then I couldn't get gold. Working up a storm of frustration after a further 30 minutes of crashes and misses, I decided I had to have that gold ... yesterday.

One and a half hours later, with a world record-like string of silvers, I managed a 2:03.773 (or .778 or something).

I know that people tend to laugh off the Vettel Monza challenge, but this was certainly my most frustrating experience in gaining a gold in GT5.
 
And I'm down to 2:12:088 for Suzuka. Just over half a second off silver.

Sometimes it's hard to see where you can possibly make up two full seconds, but then you realise you've gone wide on a hairpin here and you need to get that particular set of corners done in a higher gear, or brake a bit later here or there.

At least with Suzuka, you know it's (supposed to be) the hardest thing in the game. It's not like you're failing to bronze a B licence.

Edit: I missed your post, but would have liked to respond:

slavssn
After watching some tutorials I managed to get my first gold at Monza. I know the other two tracks are much more demanding but, I believe, beating them will be doable for me, a DS user since 2000. At Monza I made a couple of minor cock-ups but the time was surprisingly good - 2:03.6xx.

Gears: M/T
SRF: on
ABS: 10
SS: 7
Else: off

Why am I posting it? Because finally I can see the light. I thought it would be impossible to even get close to gold at any track with my skills but now I see I can do it. I was upset when I discovered I can't downgrade to 1.10 (platinum copy, installs 1.13 automatically) and use the glitch... At least now I have hope I can do it without cheating.*

* - to me, exploiting glitches is cheating. I have read a rather revolting thread about it somewhere on GTP Forums, so if you like to inform me that glitching is not cheating, please keep it (as well as eventual manure storm) to yourself.
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I don't have a Platinum copy, and I suppose I could go to all the trouble of glitching it, but I really don't feel like doing that. I want to get these golds properly, have the gold trophies there when I enter the challenge selection screen, and have the replays. In the end, if I just can't go fast enough then that's just the way it will be.

2:06.6 is a great time--especially using DS3! I wouldn't say I made "cockups" in my Monza gold, but I can certainly see that I was driving too conservatively through the first chicane, and after watching others do it, I can see that I was generally braking too early.

One question, if you manage to see this post: What's the "SS" listed in your settings? -The only number possibility besides ABS is TCS, no?

(I believe my settings were the following. I was experimenting with ABS and TCS though, so I'm not completely sure there:

TCS: 1 (it may have been off)
SRF: On
ABS:10 (I was also trying 5 here)
Controller: 7)
 
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the games been out for some time now and your just knowing this.?
 
Its better you do one for each time. And not all at the same time. concentrate on Omnza first, Nurb bext and finally Suzuka.
 
I feel that I should warn people DO NOT try to do the glitches unless you have never upgraded to 2.00 or 2.01, whichever one gave us the free Toyota 86. If there's any DLC (even this) on your save then it will freeze the game if you go back to an earlier version. Polyphony did this to stop people exploiting the early glitches that were present.
 
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