A little rant on how poor this "simulation" is.

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Viperguy324
That track is very fresh.. almost no buildup
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not so...in the second picture the supermoto guy is leaving a superfresh strip of rubber as he backs it into the corner and you can't see any of it.
 
UnoMOTO
not so...in the second picture the supermoto guy is leaving a superfresh strip of rubber as he backs it into the corner and you can't see any of it.
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Toss a filter on there. ... I can show you thousands of pics without the glare. so what?

Do you have a pic of the front of his visor? is it tinted? ...no glare
 
One question: If you drive so often why cant you compensate? IRL track temp humidity and type of tarmac can make the same tyres react completely different. You never drove carts or formula's....There is a lot to get to Grips with...sorry for the pun
 
thedeester1
One question: If you drive so often why cant you compensate? IRL track temp humidity and type of tarmac can make the same tyres react completely different. You never drove carts or formula's....There is a lot to get to Grips with...sorry for the pun
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HAHAHA - good pun 👍

But seirously, what's the big deal here: why can't you just go and use the R3s if that floats your boat.
 
Viperguy324
Toss a filter on there. ... I can show you thousands of pics without the glare. so what?

Do you have a pic of the front of his visor? is it tinted? ...no glare
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That’s kinda sad really. I've shown you two untouched photos with the sun at the right angle to produce track glare that you say doesn't exist. At the right angle to the sun this will happen at most asphalt tracks on the planet. I believe the main reason is the petroleum base in the asphalt is what gives it the reflective properties.

But hey...you can ignore what your own eyes see if you want.
 
You suck at the game Viperguy324! As simple is that..

How can you be so stupid? Yes you are REALLY stupid, and for some reason I don't think I'm the only one who thinks so.

I don't even care to argue with your stupid complains, because they are.. guess what? STUPID...
 
PuTTe_TuTTe
You suck at the game Viperguy324! As simple is that..

How can you be so stupid? Yes you are REALLY stupid, and for some reason I don't think I'm the only one who thinks so.

I don't even care to argue with your stupid complains, because they are.. guess what? STUPID...
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This is a great contribution to the thread. Thanks. I hope to see more like this in the future.
 
PuTTe_TuTTe
You suck at the game Viperguy324! As simple is that..

How can you be so stupid? Yes you are REALLY stupid, and for some reason I don't think I'm the only one who thinks so.

I don't even care to argue with your stupid complains, because they are.. guess what? STUPID...
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no youre not the only one who thinks so ...
maybe viperguy324 you need supergluetyres? or something like that? :yuck:
 
UnoMOTO
That’s kinda sad really. I've shown you two untouched photos with the sun at the right angle to produce track glare that you say doesn't exist. At the right angle to the sun this will happen at most asphalt tracks on the planet. I believe the main reason is the petroleum base in the asphalt is what gives it the reflective properties.

But hey...you can ignore what your own eyes see if you want.
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Like I said ... I can show you pics all day long of tracks with less sun and no glare.. Point is all these tracks are a bit too shiny for my taste... maybe it's because i'm in germany???
 
PuTTe_TuTTe
You suck at the game Viperguy324! As simple is that..

How can you be so stupid? Yes you are REALLY stupid, and for some reason I don't think I'm the only one who thinks so.

I don't even care to argue with your stupid complains, because they are.. guess what? STUPID...
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So far the only STUPID post on here is yours.. School starts early.. should'nt you be in bed?
 
thedeester1
One question: If you drive so often why cant you compensate? IRL track temp humidity and type of tarmac can make the same tyres react completely different. You never drove carts or formula's....There is a lot to get to Grips with...sorry for the pun
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I would love too.. problem is i've got to pass 16 cars that are all over the place and seem to have plenty of grip and i'm in the lotus.
 
Viperguy324
because i'm stuck at S10
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and that prooves you're not good enough..

btw it's very funny how a guy who have such a racing experience in real life as you claim you have, can sit in front of a computer and complain over a video game! :lol:

any pictures of you racing in real life would be appreciated.

Viperguy324
I would love too.. problem is i've got to pass 16 cars that are all over the place and seem to have plenty of grip and i'm in the lotus.
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they have the same amount of grip as you but they can drive..

EDIT: and in real life the cars are not all over the place?
 
Duphman
This is a great contribution to the thread. Thanks. I hope to see more like this in the future.
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You can look away... coming on here and saying that I suck is BS. I had no problem getting to where i'm at.. and if I had the time invested as the "you suck crowd" i'm sure I would have the game completed.

To the you suck crowd.... we are taking about a game here hero's. Anytime you want show off your mad driving skills you can show me at a real track in a real car. Until then go back to praticing your car railing moves.
 
Viperguy324
Like I said ... I can show you pics all day long of tracks with less sun and no glare.. Point is all these tracks are a bit too shiny for my taste... maybe it's because i'm in germany???
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What does the shininess (does that word even exist?) of tracks have to do with where you come from?
 
PuTTe_TuTTe
they have the same amount of grip as you but they can drive..

EDIT: and in real life the cars are not all over the place?
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Please toss the same penalties to them and this race is in the bag.

Do you have the same game as me? ...in S10 you have cars everywhere ..in the grass.. back on the track.. hitting you then you get held for 5 secs while they pass again ... repeat.
 
Viperguy324
And have you driven on cut slicks before in real life? ... they are not far off from full slicks.
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Yes to both counts and what are commonly known as R compound tyres (road legal cut slicks) are a long way from true slicks. The composition and base rubber types used are totally different, a cut slick will still provide a reasonable degree of grip when cold, a full racing slick is not far removed from driving on ice when stone cold.


Viperguy324
Toss a filter on there. ... I can show you thousands of pics without the glare. so what?

Do you have a pic of the front of his visor? is it tinted? ...no glare
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Sorry but what does this actually mean? Are you honestly saying that you have driven 1000s of track laps, including at the 'ring and never come across intense glare from the track? It may have escaped your attention, but GT5:P does not have dynamic weather, so they will always be bright and sunny, with bright and sunny you can get glare. hell you can get it on a public road, you can get it on a proving ground and you can get it on a track.



Viperguy324
The actual car physics are not really my concern..it's the tires that are beyond realistic.

As for my experience.. I would say i'm a advanced track driver. Over 1000+ laps at various tracks ranging from Willow Springs to the Nordschlife.

My current track car is an '06 Spec-C (N12). On R888's
(spec can be seen on IWSTI... under VIPERGUY)


As for GTR2 ... you can adjust the file to bring the grip to reality.
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Physics are physics, I'm talking about the whole thing, but as a point of reference I have compared GT4 tyre grip limits (both lateral and longitudinal) to the real deal in a fairly detailed analysis, and N2 / N3 come across as very realistic in terms of the numbers. GT5:P keeps the grip levels roughly the same, but the breakway and general physics are a lot closer.

On the general point of your experience and car, I'm sorry to sound negative, but I'm sure you understand we get a lot of new members making very grand claims about what they own. We have even had people post up pictures of what they claim to be time and the vehicle they drive, only for it to be discovered it was just trawled from the web.

So we have a simple 'test', please post up a picture of your car with a nice hand-written sign with 'Hello GT Planet from Viperguy324' written on it. I know this may sound a bit much, and please understand that I am not saying you don't own the car, simply that we have had problems in this area before.



Viperguy324
Thats my point.. would you drive your big$$$$$ car off the lot and take it racing with the same street tires on ??? no .. you would go no less then fresh semi's
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Well that would depend on the nature of the race series itself, if the race series only allows a road legal treaded control tyre (and many such series do exist around the globe) the you can want to use a cut slick or full slick, it just not going to happen. More than enough race series exist in which the competitor has no choice at all over the tyre used.


Regards

Scaff


BTW - please do not doubel post, I have had to merge two of your posts together in this thread, and do not replace swear words with $$$ or *** or anything, just do not swear. These are not polite requests, they are conditions of membership here at GT Planet.
 
All I'm going to say about this so far is:

I love it when the last 'argument' resource is bragging on how good someone is at the wheel...
 
Viperguy324
Scaff.. you have a PM

and the $$$$$ = money as in big money car.
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That's OK then, but please what the other abreviation you like using.

I also know I have a PM, however I don't just e-mail people unsolicited, I have to filter out enough spam as it is without giving my e-mail address' out freely. Please either say what you need in a PM or here (if it relates to this topic).

Scaff
 
Scaff
That's OK then, but please what the other abreviation you like using.

I also know I have a PM, however I don't just e-mail people unsolicited, I have to filter out enough spam as it is without giving my e-mail address' out freely. Please either say what you need in a PM or here (if it relates to this topic).

Scaff
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If you are worried then don't email me.. does'nt matter to me. I will be back on the track on the 4th of May.. and will have someone to take pics for you. I don't know how to post them thou?

You don't have any contacts at AP Racing do you?
 
I have driven EVO 9 and several in cars in autoX competition, and the evo 9 with s3 tires on London track feels pretty close to me.

It's harder to judge speed without feeling the g-forces, but it's probably as close as it can get.

just my 2 cents. I'm happy with what i get with gt5p :)
 
post a photo on photobucket or imageshack or one of the other 300 photo websites ?
 
do you have any pictures of your car at least then? :dunce:

EDIT: it's Viperguy324 the race driver I'm asking..
 
PuTTe_TuTTe
and that prooves you're not good enough..

btw it's very funny how a guy who have such a racing experience in real life as you claim you have, can sit in front of a computer and complain over a video game! :lol:

any pictures of you racing in real life would be appreciated.


they have the same amount of grip as you but they can drive..

EDIT: and in real life the cars are not all over the place?
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I can send you a pic or too ..I don't have them hosted so how can I post them?
 
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