@Kossie Normal and fresh. No oil change. One with body rigidity, one without. They do a VERY slight different thing at a couple corners and I'm not sure which I prefer. And I don't think one is faster than the other. You have to push ~100% all the time. Awesome experience. And, I got some faster ones but not ready to share that yet because I'm waiting for one of the guys that do the stock challenges to post.