A-spec Expert Level Rain Master: Nürburgring Nordschleife

Discussion in 'GT6 Seasonal & Quick Match Events' started by nowcontrol, May 5, 2016.

  1. UltimateLurker

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    You know, sometimes I think my times are pretty good, then Cory and Hall get a hold of them and I'm all like...

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    I'll get you the tune the next time I turn GT on.
     
  2. skeagracing

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    First I left a lot of seconds at the Nurburgring with this tune as I never got to use 6 gear and it cost me big time. It was my first try for this race with the HSV and never had time to work the Transmission issues. The sad part is that you can win with RS rubber as in the real world you would not make it to the first corner let alone make the turn.

    @davidt33
    HSV-010 GT Base Model
    No parts


    500PP
    270 BHP
    3.94kgs/HP
    Weight Distribution 50:50
    Weight 1,100kg
    Tires: Racing Soft
    Suspension

    F/R
    70/65
    11.21/12.13
    2/2
    6/6
    2/5
    0.0/0.0
    -0.00/0.00
    Racing Brake Kit
    5/5
    FC Trans
    I only changed the final gear to 3.300 and no others.

    Max speed 149
    1st 4.919
    2nd 3.458
    3rd 2.720
    4th 2.184
    5th 1.765
    6th 1.440
    Set final gear to 3.300
    LSD
    10

    11

    12
    Set power limiter to 53.8%
    Downforce
    400/550
    No Aid
     
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  3. skeagracing

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    You should not be able to win with racing soft tires with 100% rain. GT6 still has some work to do in that regard.
     
  4. Dashyankuro

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    yeah haha, but it's funny tho.. i spun my car at 30kmph on slick tyre in the rain..
     
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  5. Dashyankuro

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    I think I accidentally sent this Lotus Elise to Subaru for Tuning; and they installed STi-Spec 4WD Axles to it :)

    #Lotus Elise 111R Race Car '04
    Ride 69/69
    Spring 10.00/8.94
    Chassis 3/2, 3/2, 2/2
    Camber 0.0/0.0
    Toe 0.00/0.00
    Brake 2/2
    LSD 0/9, 0/5, 0/11
    Downforce 200/500
    Transmission
    Final 6.000
    Auto-Set 180kmph
    1st-6th Minimum
    Final 3.360
     
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  6. wedjim

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    I used the Toyota, since it was already pretty close. Added taller final ratio, 3:25, rear downforce, changed rear camber to 1.0 from 3.0 and shocks changed to 3/7 comp and 7/4 ext.

    One lap and done, 8:21 total time on proper full wets for allegedly 100% wet conditions.
     
  7. UltimateLurker

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    OK, I think I'm done.

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    Tune (a probable mix of ShaunM80/Praiano/myself):

    Elise 111R Race Car '04
    500PP - 235HP/168TQ - 762KG

    Racing Soft tires

    80/90
    532/960
    4/4
    4/4
    3/3
    0/2.0
    0/.20
    7/1

    10/40/20

    143 MPH / 3715 FD
    1. 4125
    2. 2918
    3. 2193
    4. 1723
    5. 1415
    6. 1215

    Power @ 90.3%

    DF 150/380
    BAL 40 @ -50

    You'll only see 146 mph on the big straight, and the tune is a bit loose because I lowered the DF to get a bit more top speed with the gearing/power/ballast I was using. If you change the rear DF back to 450, add a little more weight (90KG), and some more power, it'll behave much better.
     
  8. davidt33

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    Thanks for the HSV tune. Will give it a shot soon. As for tyres, I've been going with Racing Intermediate for this rain one. Been handling very good with those tyres so far.
    This particular race on this track with rain included has been proving to be quite an interesting/exciting race in my opinion.
    The odd thing is I never like the Nurbring before as it proved to be too difficult for me before but I can handle it much better now especially with my new wheel. Cheers.
     
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  9. skeagracing

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    I have driven at the Nurburgring and it is not easy to learn 157 corners. If you really want to learn this track I would recommend the DVD “In Car 956” with Derek Bell.
     
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  10. davidt33

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    Sorry to bother you again @skeagracing but I'm having some difficulty in interpreting some of the settings as you've outlined above, especially the first half. Could you please outline them as per template/example below with relevant headings and settings? Would be much appreciated.

    Example:

    (Name of car)

    600PP
    748 BHP
    1300kgs
    Weight Distribution 55:45

    Sports Soft Tyres
    Change Oil


    FC Sus
    F/R
    115/110
    12.75/9.00
    6/6
    5/5
    2/5
    0.0/0.0
    -0.05/0.00

    Racing Brake Kit
    8/7

    FC Trans
    Set final gear to 5.000
    set max speed to 137 mph
    1st 2.456
    2nd 1.898
    3rd 1.452
    4th 1.197
    5th 1.017
    6th 0.886
    Set final gear to 3.030

    FC LSD
    F/R
    8/10
    10/12
    12/14
    Triple Plate Clutch
    Torq Dist Centre Diff

    30:70

    Set power limiter to 94.0%
    Engine Tuning Stage 3
    High RPM Range Turbo Kit


    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Downforce
    150/350
    Ballast - Set 83kgs to Position 50

    Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only.
     
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  11. skeagracing

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    I will do it first thing in the morning I'm on my way out the door to go to a play
     
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  12. MTM79

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    So far I've won with a Lancia Delta rally car (superfun as stock and RI), a Clio V6 (stock and RI), and a Mazda Roadster Touring car (fastest so far), and finally this:

    WP_20160507_006.jpg

    ..a miniature Hyundai with FWD.
     
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  13. radix023

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    I discovered I did not have the race rs200, only the road car, so I blew the $1.4m on that. Oil change, Heavy Wet Tires, Stage 3 Engine tune. max ballast, left weight distro 50/50. Dialed back power to make 500. I get in the pre-race and dial down traction control and I notice SRF!!?!?!?! So the easy seasonals continue. Nice prize car though.

    I'm a not-extremely-fast sixaxis user and I did this on the second lap. (Although I did grind the 'ring in GT5 for XP with a 650pp race)
     
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  14. demonchilde

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    I got 8:38 with the Guilia TZ2 ZAGATO @ 263mph/800kg.
    Was hitting 175-180 on the back nine.
     
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  15. RxLaMont

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    I finally won with an RS200 using my own sloppy tune. INTERS were much better than full sets.

    Then I pulled up the Alfa 155 2.5 V6 TI '93 and can pretty much clean up the field with 10-20second wins routine. I'm grinding cash with the Alfa. Hate the 'Ring, but definitely a challenge that doesn't get old!

    Others I tried:
    Megane trophy '11: dang fast but quick to spin if your throttle control is poor.
    Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring car: stuck well but no pace
    Peugot 206 Rally Car: might have worked for me in a weak field of cars.

    Gonna try later with some Front Wheel Drive cars and see what happens.

    Thanks for all the tunes everyone! It really helps marginal drivers like me.
     
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  16. dwight42

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    wow amazing time in the 111R Lotus man/person/driver. Do you get better traction with heavy wets rather than intermediate? Anyway I dropped 1.25 mill on the alpha Romeo 155 2.5 least I get gold in it 2.97 power to weight ratio which is lower than the lotus 111R at 3.10 I think it was anyway close oh but I added 91 kg to the 111R and put -50 for better weight distribution was not my ideah though. anyone manage a 8 minute in the 155? 175 mph on the back 9 that's amazing for a 500pp 180 must be a record 500pp speed. well I have said much hope it made sense.

    PS anyone else use the alpha Romeo 155? oh ok RxLaMont yeah I use intermediates to

    Sorry I must add got a setup for the zagato? 10 mill! . how would a gt40 mk iv do?

    well for me the ZAGATO was a 10 mill mistake I don't have as good of a pace and topped only 152 on the back 9 and I did find a tune for it. live and learn. the Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 is great.
     
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  17. K1LLD0z3R

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    Easy win against a similar lineup, 155 in front. Actually caught and passed the 155 at the carousel. Very nice tune. I am not even close to your times, but I do run SRF off.

    Thanks again for the setup, I reused a car that already had an oil change, so the HP was tiny smaller and the torque was a bit higher. The trans would not quite match up because of that, but it was close enough. Good times.

    Also, used the RS tires. I tried some CS tires on different cars in this event and the RS are superior.
     
  18. davidt33

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    Racing Intermediates work just fine @dwight42
     
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  19. UltimateLurker

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    My times are based on the fact that I drive like a complete maniac until I'm ahead of the lead car, then I chill out and drive smooth the rest of the way. If I make any mistake at all before I get ahead of the lead car, I start over. It's exhausting, and harrowing at times, but it's the way I've always done it. If I drove the second half of the track like I drive the first half, I'd never finish the race, as I simply can't keep up that level of stress.
     
  20. demonchilde

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    This can be improved apon greatly, but it's a gold as is.
    As far as the GT40 mk IV, I don't have wet settings for that one, sorry.
    The Zagato, however, is worth buying, if for nothing else then these 500pp race car seasonal races. 90% of good cars you need to power down way too much for 500pp, the 'Carrot' likes 550pp the most. The Ferrari antique racers are good too, but sometimes are just 'too' easy to win with. The Zag is fun.

    I did NOT change oil
    105/95
    5.20/5.00
    3/5
    5/3
    3/5
    0.5/0.0
    -0.10/+0.05
    Brake 7/9
    LSD (for wet) 7/20/14
    Power 87.6% high rpm turbo
    Aero 150/100
    180kg @ -6 (54/46)
    Transmission
    Max final
    Auto 112mph
    3.020
    1.940
    1.425
    1.120
    0.909
    Final to 3.250
     
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  21. sfa_tan

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    Was trying with the Stratos rally 77, but still struggling. Would u mind sharing your tune for the car pls? Thx!
     
  22. dwight42

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    It's stressful even for UltimateLurker. it is nice to finally get the lead no more driving not seeing 50 feet in front of me behind cars I don't like that.

    now I need to win back 7 mill that's ok.
     
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  23. mr_rainmaker

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    The RX7s are almost no fun,I keep slamming every one of them into the back of AI cars. :crazy: :ouch::yuck:
     
  24. wedjim

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    Surprised nobody has used the Toyota RSC. Maybe because it handles so well it feels like the track isn't wet?

    I think I had a 40 second margin. lol
     
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  25. jlbmel

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    First attempt at this event. Car handles great. Includes a crash when I got distracted by my phone.
     
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  27. Dashyankuro

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    Actually, Cappucino's not bad..
    U'll be surprised of how many bends u can Full Throttle with this Supercino :)
    Gearing power is perfect; 160kmph-180kmph perfectly suit most bends in here.
    Need to ask PD what brand is this RS Tyre, so perfect for Wet Race.

    #Suzuki Cappucino (EA21R) Race Car '95
    Tyre Racing Soft
    Ride 95/95
    Spring 6.96/5.73
    Chassis 3/3, 3/3, 1/1
    Camber 0.0/0.0
    Toe 0.00/0.00
    Brake 1/1
    LSD 0/8, 0/14, 0/11
    Transmission
    Final 6.500
    Max Speed 160kmph
    Final 3.800
    ABS1
     
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  28. Dashyankuro

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    Haha, it's a conspiracy theory.. that some The Dark Forces can rule Time in this Planet.
     
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    My downforce was 111/111.
     
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  30. lasrjock

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    I just don't think that I can beat the Elise 111R.

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    But I can beat the Celica '03.

    IMG_3798_small.jpg
     
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