Aliens

[Maximum Hoonage]

There is alien life in the universe, there can be little doubt. It could be anything from bacteria to intelligent beings. Is it visiting Earth and kidnapping sleeping hillbillies? No.

I don't think there's any practical way for intelligent life to visit Earth. Nothing can go faster than light, and building a spaceship that can go 99% of light would still need years or millions of years to get anywhere interesting. Any civilization that could do that would have conquered us or at least said "hi" by now. All that effort to get here only to hide just seems like a waste to me.

 

[tlowr4]

That's exactly what I meant. Yes. There is life in other planets. We know that by rocks, and chunks of dirt....let's say from Mars. There has been bacteria, and micro-living-organisms, that science has found. BUT, (I'm going back to my Christian mind here) if Jehovah had created intelligent life on other planets, he would have let us know about it. It's a bit like your...umm....told you I wasn't great with the explanations...ummm....let's just say your parents. If they were to....you know....and end up having another kid, I doubt they would keep it from you, seeing as it would be your brother/sister. The same principle applies to intelligent life.

EDIT: For the post above me: Unless they had one of these!!

 

[Joey D]

God's final message to his Creation: "We apologize for the inconvenience."

 

[tlowr4]

What inconvenience?

 

[Joey D]

What inconvenience?

Ask Him, but I suggest seeing it for yourself. The message is written in fire in letters thirty feet high on the far side of the Quentulus Quazgar Mountains in the land of Sevorbeupstry on the planet of Preliumtarn, which orbits the star Zarss, which is located in the Grey Binding Fiefdoms of Saxaquine. The long path to the message is lined with souvenir stands at spaced-out intervals.

 

[Keef]

Do they serve pretzels along the way?

 

[tlowr4]

There is only 1 thing to say to both the above messages:




Sorry for the spam, but I just (literally) piddled my pants. Better go change. *trods off*

 

[Azuremen]

That's exactly what I meant. Yes. There is life in other planets. We know that by rocks, and chunks of dirt....let's say from Mars. There has been bacteria, and micro-living-organisms, that science has found. BUT, (I'm going back to my Christian mind here) if Jehovah had created intelligent life on other planets, he would have let us know about it. It's a bit like your...umm....told you I wasn't great with the explanations...ummm....let's just say your parents. If they were to....you know....and end up having another kid, I doubt they would keep it from you, seeing as it would be your brother/sister. The same principle applies to intelligent life.

I find this entire analogy hilarious because I've known families that just randomly have a half kid show up because of the father having a bit of fun with another woman. Like, 30 years after the fact it coming up.

 

[FoolKiller]

That's exactly what I meant. Yes. There is life in other planets. We know that by rocks, and chunks of dirt....let's say from Mars. There has been bacteria, and micro-living-organisms, that science has found. BUT, (I'm going back to my Christian mind here) if Jehovah had created intelligent life on other planets, he would have let us know about it.

Why? "By the way, Adam, I made some other self-aware creatures on one of those lights in the sky. Actually, you can't see this light it's so faint. But don't worry on it as it will be thousands, maybe millions, of years before either of you could possibly see each other."

Nope, it would be irrelevant to The Bible. And meeting an alien race we didn't know existed would be the ultimate test of if we learned our lessons over the years.

Besides, The Bible is vague about the other humans outside of Adam & Eve's lineage, so I wouldn't be surprised to find extraterrestrials not mentioned at all.

 

[Dotini]

In the King James Bible, book of John, there is this enigmatic passage:
"In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you."

And as Alex has referred to above, in the apochrypha, pseudepigrapha, or extra-cannonical texts of the early Christian and Jewish testaments, there are plentiful references to alien creatures from the skies. Principal among these are the Nephilim, or fallen angels. They are briefly mentioned in Genesis.

Now I don't for a moment take anything printed in ancient literature as literally true or written by the moving finger of God. It's all the work of men, some of them probably quite stoned, or in trance. Even so, it is there printed in words plain to see. Prophecies, miracles and portentous doings abound old in books. I'm sure their authors were in some cases imparting information that is meaningful, if puzzling to moderns.

My conclusion is that we, as living intelligences, are not alone in the universe. We are shortly to learn that life is not necessarily biological, and that alien beings are, well, very alien. So alien, that many people will have some trouble recognizing them as beings at all. Sir Arthur Clarke, before he died, was said to have received privileged information concerning findings on Mars. Clarke spoke shortly before his death of organisms on Mars which are a bizarre combination of both geology and botany. A vague anology on Earth would be coral.

Respectfully submitted,
Dotini

 

[Dotini]

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com...secret-nasa-transmissionsthe-smoking-gun.html

Official downlinked video and audio from US and Russian manned shuttle and space station missions repeatedly focus on glowing spheres and other objects in near and distant views under all light conditions.

From John Glenn's "fireflies" to the broken electrical tether experiment, this lengthy video shows inquisitive balls of light clustering around humans and human activity in space. NASA seems to have early on reached the conclusion that these are living entities, and that the rest of us will eventually just have to get used to it.

Respectfully submitted,
Dotini

 

[Alex p.]

Kinda hard to believe that in the most dangerous space (well, space itself), life could exicst. I go with the orb theory, I doubt it can be biological life.

 

[bjqrn]

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/astrobiology_toxic_chemical.html

Pretty new info and very interesting and exciting, oh and i do believe in life elsewhere out there like a lot of us do. And like most i am sceptical on alien visits

 

[CloneHead]

Here is a very interesting lecture about the DNA result from the mysterious Starchild Skull. I think this is fairly new - and definately a must-see. If my memory serves me right, it's about an hour and a half (in parts) - and it's better than anything on the tv anyway, so make some popcorn, and give it a go. Disclose tv

And here is some interesting reading, not related to the Starchild skull, though. Majestic 12 documents

 

[Alex p.]

Thx CloneHead. I posted some months ago about the Starchild DNA, most of people here of course dismissed it as not really interesting, sigh.

 

[barny0111]

Of course aliens exist. Haven't you seen that documentary 'district 9'.

 

[Dotini]

After much research and preparation, I once went on a month's long amateur's quest to investigate native American rock art and archeology. I studied caves, kivas, petroglyphs and pictographs in the western states. In the eastern states I investigated mounds, barrows and pyramids, of which I saw something over 100 of 10,000 extant. I have personally gazed at skulls that were formed above the brow ridge into perfect cylinders, rising high to a crown which easily doubled the normal distance from the crown to the brow. These were enormously startling and unsettling to look upon. But since I saw these as burials in an ancient mound in Arkansas, I felt pretty sure these were native Americans, probably shaman, who practiced remarkable techniques of forming the human skull from birth into a desired shape. This was probably for the reason of making their clan (or family trade of shamanism) into an arresting and charismatic image which could be immediately recognized. It is also possible that the brain which formed inside this purposely shaped case worked in purposefully enhanced ways to augment their dreaming and visionary abilities.

I've been aware of the "Starchild" skull for about 15 years. It's very different and comes with an interesting story. It would be good to find others like it and do enough legitimate research to determine if it weren't connected to shamanistic traditions common to all ancient peoples of the Americas. Before ordinarily prudent people can accept alien skulls, the elementary explanations need to be most firmly ruled out. I'm open to persuasion.

Respectfully,
Dotini

 

[Touring Mars]

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/astrobiology_toxic_chemical.html

Pretty new info and very interesting and exciting

There has been quite alot of coverage on this story in the UK, but perhaps unsurprisingly, not all of it has been very positive. Infact, it seems there are some very serious flaws in the paper that should have (but were not) properly addressed by the peer-review system.

 

[Dotini]

There has been quite alot of coverage on this story in the UK, but perhaps unsurprisingly, not all of it has been very positive. Infact, it seems there are some very serious flaws in the paper that should have (but were not) properly addressed by the peer-review system.

I found this today: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...discovery-dismissed-flim-flam-scientists.html

NASA's Mono Lake arsenic/alien looks like it might indeed amount to a bad joke. Maybe it's a matter of ginning up publicity in upcoming budgetary struggles on Capitol Hill?

 

[gtone339]

Of course aliens exist. Haven't you seen that documentary 'district 9'.

 

[risuku13]

Have you seen Ancient Aliens?

Certainly thought-provoking.

 

[Joey D]

While it is thought provoking, the show ignores a lot of archaeological evidence and theories. I enjoy the show and I think there is some stuff that could raise some legit questions, but a lot of it is just info-tainment.

 

[Dotini]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jan/10/earth-close-encounter-aliens-extraterrestrials

Is the Royal Society of England the greatest waste of money in the realm, or do they know something the rest of us don't?

 

[Christhedude]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jan/10/earth-close-encounter-aliens-extraterrestrials

Is the Royal Society of England the greatest waste of money in the realm, or do they know something the rest of us don't?

Now that is interesting...

Chris

 

[blaaah]

I think if we get/have been visited by aliens it will have been in the form of almost atomicly small beings or technology, perhaps nanobots carried on an energy stream as particles/waves perhaps created, targeted and originating from a home planet of an alien world. They would have to travel back up the stream again to exchange information (unless a quantum symmetry type thing occurred) .

 

[Dotini]

I think if we get/have been visited by aliens it will have been in the form of almost atomicly small beings or technology, perhaps nanobots carried on an energy stream as particles/waves perhaps created, targeted and originating from a home planet of an alien world. They would have to travel back up the stream again to exchange information (unless a quantum symmetry type thing occurred) .

Is this quantum symmetry type thing (entanglement?) the one about how particles at opposite ends of the universe can instantly "know" the spin or charge of their twinned particle on the other side? This line of inquiry is interesting.

Also, it would also be interesting to learn what gravity is and how it works. In order for the solar system to stay together and not fly apart, the Sun and planets must "know" where each other are at all times. In other words, gravity acts at infinite or near-infinite speed. A traveler entrained in gravity particles or waves, or whatever it is, will ignore conventional speed limits.

Finally, there is an hypothesis that all points in space and time are connected.
Building on this, one might speculate that cosmic masters of space and time might "know" or access the past, present and future of any desired location in the universe. This is the tantalizing promise of psi, remote viewing or astral travel claimed by some Earth-bound psychic investigators. Ingo Swann comes to mind in this connection.

Respectfully submitted and eager for correction,
Dotini

 

[Alex p.]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jan/10/earth-close-encounter-aliens-extraterrestrials

Is the Royal Society of England the greatest waste of money in the realm, or do they know something the rest of us don't?

Nice. This again fits in the conspiracy theory that "the elite" will stage an alien threat, in order to impose the new world order with one world currency, government, military etc, and of course the mark of the beast 666 lol, the RFID chip. (ID, bank account, etc.)
It's kinda interesting because the Book of Revelation states sth. like that in the end days, everyone shall recieve the mark of the beast and only with this mark he will be able to buy or sell. Spooky lol.

 

[Dotini]

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page1199999467.php

New secret UFO Wikileaks cable revealed

Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com

A source from within the inner circle of the Wikileaks team has confidentially leaked to All News Web the content of a State Dept cable, concerning UFO affairs, that Wikileaks has declined to upload onto their website.

The cable states: "It is critical all embassy staff understand that they are not to discuss under any circumstance concerns DOD has with UFOs entering orbit, once again the seriousness of this matter cannot be overstated"

The cable was sent on 9 November, 2005 by the State Dept to a diplomat connected to the US embassy in Kiev, Ukraine. As it implies, the State Dept was concerned with diplomats with loose tongues chatting about UFOs at cocktail parties and conceding that the US does allocate resources to the matter. Due to the fact that UFO and alien affairs fall within the absolute highest level of secrecy and security clearance it is hardly surprising that Julian Assange has chosen, as a safety measure, not to reveal such information.

Editor''s note: It appears that while our Governments are deeply worried about the bubble bursting on the way they do business behind closed doors they are taking no chances at all on the public's bubble bursting on the alien and UFO issue.

Our record on the Wikileaks UFO connection is good. The initial question posed to Assange on the UFO issue was asked by an avid All News Web reader from Germany and we were informed by him with seconds of Assange's response. We have received many emails on the matter since then, however this has been the first piece of information of real interest.


Edit: see also, the "Black Knight" UFO
http://nordictruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/black-knight-satellite-in-sky-before.html

 

[Alex p.]

Wow Dotini, so that means "they" are actually here. Always kinda knew it, but so damned hard to realize that.

 

[Anes]

Haven't you seen that documentary 'district 9'

Well played.

Chances of us being alone are trillions and trillions to one. There's that many stars/planets out there