Am I missing out by not doing the 20 million credit glitch?

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It's not the destination, it's the journey.
And the journey begins after the glitch.

All the people that it ruined the game for? I feel sorry for those 5 people I guess, but they should have know their own interests.
 
Maybe GT6 is getting even closer to a real racing simulator where money buys speed?Except no amount of money not even 20,000,000 will buy you talent!! If you use a glitch to get cars,hey more power to you,go for it but if you actually spend time driving those glitches then you will fine that driving a go-cart or a 20,000,000 beast require the same driving talent,the more you work at your craft the quicker you will become this is an undisputable fact.There is no substitute for seat time in ANY form of racing simulated or real but its sure entertaining watching people try..Glitch on my fellow racers.....

Another sim related issue,gt6 is by far the best sim racer for the ps3 so if I want a great simulator why must I buy the same cars for gt6 that I had in gt5 because if I buy a real car (for example an Audi TT)and i have another garage on my property I don't have to buy another TT to put in it,the same car gets parked in both garages.The loyal customer base who bought gt5 for$60 is probably the same loyal customer base who will buy gt6 for another $60 for pete's sake transfer the same cars to the new game,this is just smart buisiness sense yet PD seems to think that their buisness model is superior ,the power of the almighty DOLLAR trumps reason.Will gt7 and gt8 and gt9 suffer because of this shortsightedness??? I think they will what do you all think??
 
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Another sim related issue,gt6 is by far the best sim racer for the ps3 so if I want a great simulator why must I buy the same cars for gt6 that I had in gt5 because if I buy a real car (for example an Audi TT)and i have another garage on my property I don't have to buy another TT to put in it,the same car gets parked in both garages.The loyal customer base who bought gt5 for$60 is probably the same loyal customer base who will buy gt6 for another $60 for pete's sake transfer the same cars to the new game

This is one thing that doesn't bother me. You know full well you paid for a separate game. Why would you expect everything to carry over? If a few cars were added, or a credit bonus for buying the previous game were included, that could be cool. Some games do that. But expecting every car you had to transfer over is foolish.
 
This is one thing that doesn't bother me. You know full well you paid for a separate game. Why would you expect everything to carry over? If a few cars were added, or a credit bonus for buying the previous game were included, that could be cool. Some games do that. But expecting every car you had to transfer over is foolish.
Thanks for the reply yes get your point entirely,but if your loyal customer base keeps driving his favourite cars every time he races then give him some reward for ponying up another $60 each new installment this will keep him coming back to your product and not get the sense of being taken advantage of smart buisiness I think perseption is reality!!

I don't think anyone is missing out by not doing the $20M glitch. I am confident that PD will provide login bonuses at some point, which will significantly increase the payouts. And I don't see "grinding" as a problem -- I get to drive all my different cars on different tracks, testing and tuning, enjoying the improved graphics and physics models, while having fun and earning credits. I'm in no hurry to get all the cars or achieve 100% completion, I just want to enjoy the game. That's what it's for, right? And look how many people say it ruined the game by having so much money. I have to laugh because it makes me think of people saying, "Dangit hurry up so we can have some fun!" Totally missing the point. It's not the destination, it's the journey.
Right on my good man you hit the nail right on the head I could not agree with you anymore perfect post!!
 
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GT6 is a lost cause now. There are clearly two camps - those who think it is acceptable to use a glitch, and those who think that it is unacceptable. If PD want to revolutionise GT7, they should drop the money aspect all together, and base the acquisition of cars based on skill rather than credits.

The licence tests should come back with avengeance, and everything available in the game should only be available according the level of licence test that you hold. There could be gold, silver, and bronze level cars for each licence, with events, and even online races restricted accordingly. seasonal events could be used as recurring tests, which could be used to see if racers are good enough to stay at the level they have attained.

You can hack cash until the cows come home, but skill has to be earned the good old fashioned way.
 
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It is relevant. Just because your imaginary friend didnt care doesnt mean thousands of other people wont or dont have a right too. You continue to try and justify what you know to be innapropriate behaviour.
What do you mean by imaginary friend?
You think I am lying about my friend spending 200 dollars or that the friend doesn't exist? Hummmmm like to start trouble much?
Do me a favor and don't try to call me out with your horrible logic because you will loose. Please explain what you meant by "imaginary friend", I would love to hear more false logic flow out of your mouth.

How is my behavior inappropriate? I am pretty sure if anyone is being inappropriate it is you judging by your posts in this thread.

@Sephy
Yeah I felt bad to show him the video of the glitch after knowing how much he spent. All he could say was "well what is done is done".


I would buy the credits with no issue, but when I am being robbed by doing so, I would rather not.
I am not really interested in the GT6 career mode anyway. I am disappointed that my favorite races are not in the game anymore. I am referring to the 24h endurance races. I used to do them with a stock car in one night straight through. I had planned to do it in GT6 with the premium Bentley Speed 8. Too bad I guess.
 
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I don't wanna glitch it, for my own benefit.
I want to enjoy earning credits with racing, buying cars with my hard earned credits.

The AI lets you win, so you are not really earning anything. You are just putting your time in, like a hamster running in that wheel they all have. It's not really about effort or skill.

The glitch does affect other players. I imagine the people who actually paid money for credits aren't very happy about it.

There's a saying about fools and money. Also, those people should resent Sony for taking their money, not the people who refuse to pay twice for the same thing.

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If you do something wrong you DESERVE to be punished. It doesnt matter if YOU justify your actions to yourself or not.

So what you're saying is, Sony should be punished for using these "micro" transactions. Indeed.
 
I don't think anyone is missing out by not doing the $20M glitch. I am confident that PD will provide login bonuses at some point, which will significantly increase the payouts. And I don't see "grinding" as a problem -- I get to drive all my different cars on different tracks, testing and tuning, enjoying the improved graphics and physics models, while having fun and earning credits. I'm in no hurry to get all the cars or achieve 100% completion, I just want to enjoy the game. That's what it's for, right? And look how many people say it ruined the game by having so much money. I have to laugh because it makes me think of people saying, "Dangit hurry up so we can have some fun!" Totally missing the point. It's not the destination, it's the journey.

They could start over again, they have not been playing for months.
I didn't use the glitch for career mode, i did it cause i race with friends online, and in our races we have to race with different cars, iv'e done 47% of the game and i earned 1,605,030 with that kind of money i could only afford 1 car to race, our races are GT500 Class, that's it. So if i will use GT6 90% to play online with my friends, why did i have to do career mode over and over again to buy cars?
The career mode has no drama, the AI is stupid and so far its pointless, there's no fun in it.
This as been said before, but i didn't see any moral difference between the people that have paid MC and the one's o did the glitch, and even those like me who have 1 million credits and the 15th anniversary cars from the pre order.
When i bought the game i thought it will be identical to GT5 in the economic way, i didn't expect this to be a game like the Real Racing 3, at least RR3 its for free didn't cost 65€.
And most of the people that did the glitch are hurting no one in PD, most of people that done that wont buy MC, so its the same, if they expect to win a lot of money with MC to develop another thing.
I don't mind to buy DLC's (except day one), i did in GT5, but pay for one thing that iv'e already pay?!!
No thanks.
 
The AI lets you win, so you are not really earning anything. You are just putting your time in, like a hamster running in that wheel they all have. It's not really about effort or skill.
I paid $60 to play the game, not to glitch and got everything on day 1 and start complaining how short the A spec races were and how few the seasonal events and etc etc..
 
I paid $60 to play the game, not to glitch and got everything on day 1 and start complaining how short the A spec races were and how few the seasonal events and etc etc..

You paid $60 for a game where the AI lets you win. Congratulations.
 
Hmm, I dont care too much for those high end cars except for two, the miura and the xj13. otherwise, the most expensive car I wanna get is the stratos and GTR concept at this point. GT6 is amazing, i spent hours looking a cars and the standards dont even look that bad. DID YOU GUYS HEAR THE SHELBY 1 SERIES SOUND!? SO GOOD!

I paid $60 to play the game, not to glitch and got everything on day 1 and start complaining how short the A spec races were and how few the seasonal events and etc etc..
cmon such negative thinking, the AI are nice to race against, depending on who your challenging. I have noticed they make human-like mistakes. I crashed on the Nurb, and one of the AI almost hit me but he swerved out of the way and span out, like a real race incident.
 
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You paid $60 for a game where the AI lets you win. Congratulations.

Since when the AI in GT ever wins?
in the previous GT, I always leave them for at least 20 seconds behind, but in GT6, even though they will leave me in the first laps, in the end they will let me pass and they will start catching me again at final corners until the finish line, and they will usually right in my rear view mirror. It was better than GT5 actually, because once you screw the last corners, you will definitely lose.
 
So my fellow drivers a question I must ask you all.Did the majority of you race fans buy gt6 to race the Ai in career mode or ( like me) buy it to race real people on-line? I have always believed that the best racing is always with human competition look at iRacing and Rfactor for the pc great competition!!The career mode is a good tutorial but when you race your fellow racers on line when you win you REALLY feel like you won something it makes the time invested in perfecting driving skills seem worth it anyone agree?Seat time is seat time in any form of racing REAL or SIMULATED!!!!The better the competition the better your skills become an undeniable truth.......

Since when the AI in GT ever wins?
in the previous GT, I always leave them for at least 20 seconds behind, but in GT6, even though they will leave me in the first laps, in the end they will let me pass and they will start catching me again at final corners until the finish line, and they will usually right in my rear view mirror. It was better than GT5 actually, because once you screw the last corners, you will definitely lose.
Great point no Ai that I know could beat Sebastian Vettel or michael Schumacher human competition always gives fantastic drives....
 
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I always felt grinding and saving up for a car to be an integral part of the GT experience. In the five or so years that separate each GT you have time enough to buy all the cars you want and REALLY call them your own. So for me using the glitch would ruin the game.

And please: stop saying you're using the glitch as a "protest" against microtransations, you're being disrespectful towards anybody who really had to fight (or is fighting) for their most basic rights. If you really wanted to protest the developer of a videogame introducing an aspect you don't like to its game to make end a meet, you could have not bought the game.
 
Problem is, it's sort of PD's fault as well as our own. Let me explain why you should and why you shouldn't, and perhaps the choice will be clearer to you:

The credit payouts are way too low. As some have stated here on this forum, it would take an insane number of man hours to reach 20 million, let alone the 50 million credit cap. Why there's a credit cap is beyond me, still, but it's there so I guess we have to live with it.

The problem with the whole thing is credit payout vs. car count. There's just too much cars to enjoy to not do the glitch, as I myself would've never been able to fully enjoy all the content this game offers considering I've got a time schedule beyond playing GT6. It would be a shame, because it's so crammed full of good stuff that otherwise I would've never seen.

This is a complement to GT6 as a whole. The game is good, nay, the game is great. I want to see it. I want to see it all. Yet I can't, the ordinary way, because I don't have the time.

Older GT's remedied this in a plethora of ways. First, you earned gift cars by the buckload. Second, those gift cars weren't one time only prices. They were given each time you completed a championship. Third, the gift car per championship could vary between two, or three or perhaps even four different cars for a single championship. Thus also giving the player a reason to complete championships multiple times, thereby stretching the worth of the single-player mode significantly, because you WANTED to know what the other cars were, and many times there wasn't another way to obtain said cars. There was an incentive to play these championships over and over again, not only for the gift cars, but the amount of money some of them could be sold for.

It basically gave the single-player almost infinite amounts of replay value because there was so much left to discover.

Right now, all cars (or almost all) are buyable from the get go, provided you have the money. Problem is, how much time are you willing, and more importantly, how much time ARE YOU ABLE to pour into the singleplayer. When I was playing GT1 or 2, I was in elementary school, so yes, I did have plenty of time. Right now, I'm 24 years old with a girlfriend, other friends, I work in the weekends and go to school five days a week to study to become a history teacher, ultimately a very satisfying but quite a time-consuming study. I still have some time over for playing GT6, but nearly not as much as I used to. So that is where your decision on wether or not you should use the glitch should come from. For me, it is almost a necessity to do so in order to ENJOY THE GAME. Is that bad?

Well, it shouldn't be, but it is. It feels bad to do the glitch, but it feels even worse that I need to do it to get some enjoyment out of playing the game. I don't think it gives me an unfair advantage either. You see, I know I'm not the best of drivers. I'm pretty good, and I can handle some of the more difficult cars on the Nurb (like the F40 and Yellowbird), but I'm nowhere near some people on this site.

Will a credit boost give me an edge? Nope, because there are still people on this site that have me and my FXX eating dust while they pull away from me in a souped up, completely tuned and utterly well made Civic. It doesn't make me drive any better at all, especially now that I'm getting used to a new G25 with clutch. I've never driven a car in real life before, so I've got my hands full with learning how to drive stick. So no, it won't help me one bit.

Does it give me the satisfaction that I used to get from older GT's? No, not at all. Working for the money always feels better. Yet people should be able to work for it. Right now, it's an impossible task to do so because of the lack of features stated above, features that not only made the grind less time-consuming, but in my eyes made GT better as a whole.

I want to drive different kinds of cars. I want to upgrade that Viper to an insane 1300HP rally monster and try to make it competitive. I want to see what I can get out of that small Opel Corsa. I want to try that Peugeot LeMans car everyone keeps talking about. I want to try all the different rally cars and I want to build my own. I want to put in records on the Nurburgring and see with which car I can be the fastest. I want to try that XJ13 and see if I can handle it. I want to see the difference between a Lamborghini Diablo GT and GT2. That's my enjoyment for the game. Without the glitch, that would not have been possible, for me at least.

However, it is possible that PD will change the prize cars, as well as money payouts. GT6 isn't done by far, as is stated by themselves. Car prices have for the most part already been drastically reduced. If they do it well enough, I might delete my save-file and start all over again. I would have no problem with that. I like the grind, but only up to a certain level.

What kind of person are you? Do you have the time? What is your enjoyment, and how do you get it? It's your game, and you decide. You might have worked hard for that Nissan GTR, and I might have not. When we meet online, will I be the better driver, will I have an unfair advantage when we go head-to-head? If you are the better driver, no money glitch will change that fact. You will still be faster in the same car.

I hope I made something more clear for you, and I hope I helped out other people here as well with this moral issue. Decide for yourself. Decide what the game is for you, as I've decided what it is for me.
 
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The rationale and relationship to human behavior is the same so yes, lets.



No one is twisting your arm to buy ANYTHING. They are offering a service for people who like instant gratification and are willing to pay for it. If the payouts were the same and there was no cash shop you'd just be whining that the game takes too much work. I'm personally glad to see rewards harder to earn. If not for this glitch then seeing someone with certain cars would mean they actually put in the time to earn it, either in game or at a real job.
What part of go away and annoy someone else did you not understand?
 
Ok, so I just did it. But in order to do it again do I have to update (2hours) and repeat the same process? Also what if I buy a $20,000,000 car? How do I get the money to keep going?
 
Ok, so I just did it. But in order to do it again do I have to update (2hours) and repeat the same process? Also what if I buy a $20,000,000 car? How do I get the money to keep going?

Get the Merc, downgrade, sell Merc- You now have 20million
Upgrade game, buy 20 Mercs
Downgrade.
Sell one Merc, spend the money.
repeat until you have one Merc left
sell it. Upgrade game
Buy another 20 Mercs.
 
there should have been a disclaimer on the box, "You cannot enjoy all the content in the game unless you spend more money to buy credits, or spend 10,000 hours grinding." Not telling you is like, buying a house, and hiding the fact you can't use the bathroom, kitchen, laundry, etc. unless you spend extra money. maybe we before we buy games we need to hire a game inspector to see if we're getting everything we're paying for up front.
 
well i for one did not want to do this glitch, but when i heard the cheaper m4 can be glitched too...hilarity ensues :p

you'll be missing out big time literally if you skip doing this. If you don't want the feeling of cheating the game and the corporate capitalists, glitch it lightly and don't over-exploit.
 
Depending on your cap and how much stuff you watch on youtube and download its takes awhile to hit that limit...
 
I am pretty sure PD has they ability to tell if you glitch. Looking at your garage and transactions at login is very simple. Forza has done this for years and they have done several resets and bans. But they also have an auction house to attempt to protect. Based on history Sony/PD does not care to operate that way and that is why I doubt they try to do anything about it. Maybe they find a way to stop it but I doubt they punish people.

If people were creating codes to redeem for credits from the PSN store or selling credits on eBay for cash I think they would be more concerned.

Sony is doing everything they can to win this next gen console war, banning Mac addresses is something I doubt they want to do.

If they would have sold $20,000,000 credits for $10 instead of $150 I doubt near as many people would have glitched and look at the money they would be making.
 
Are you missing out not taking advantage of the Glitch? Depends on you. I won't pay for in game credits for a game I just spent $60 dollars on, and currently, the game is set up so that you will need to buy credits in order to get more than a handful of cars before you turn old and grey. Paying for some DLC, such as car and track packs is one thing, but using money to buy current in game content, in a game is not "free to play" is a cheap, greedy tactic IMHO, and a big middle finger to all of us hardcore GT players. FOr me it was an easy choice. I've been playing since GT1. All of them, I have set back on the shelf after a solid 6 months of game play, until GT5. Well, even that I had set away for a while too, until I found this site a couple of years back. Once I got into league racing, I've played GT5 if not close to everyday, at the least twice a week. For me, my GT6 experience will be much like my GT5 experience. The "career" crap is just like the coffee break for me. Neat little races to participate in for the fun of it, but the REAL racing comes with racing with real people on a league level. Nothing gets the blood flowing and heart thumping like a good ol' dog fight for the finish with a real, equally skilled racer. No AI in any racing game will do that for you. The league I race in uses at least 1 new car every week. Not to mention all of the side events we do as well through out the week. the current grind of GT6, and the real $ to credit value just doesn't cut it. Besides the fact that I refuse to pay real money, for fake goods.
I see the "glitch" as a Karma kicking PD in the teeth for getting greedy. If this persists onto GT7, and they didn't learn their lesson, I'll be jumping off the GT bandwagon and take my racing elsewhere. If I am forced to pay for content. It sure as hell won't be done here, in GT, but rather, a game that I can get for free, and buy a few cars and tracks and be done with it.
 
And please: stop saying you're using the glitch as a "protest" against microtransations, you're being disrespectful towards anybody who really had to fight (or is fighting) for their most basic rights. If you really wanted to protest the developer of a videogame introducing an aspect you don't like to its game to make end a meet, you could have not bought the game.

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The distinction is not who has exploited and who has not, but who is a true fan of Gran Turismo, and who is not. I am a loyal fan, I always have been.

Those who use exploits will always have a valid excuse to justify their actions, believing that crowd mentality has given their cause justification. There is no justification. Perhaps those of us who have not exploited the game, should become more vocal about those who have. I am unequivocal in my opinion, everyone who has used the exploit, should be banned from playing the online portion of the game, permanently. Enjoy the game in the comfort of your own home, you will not be hurting there.

This is the definition of a protest, to stand up for something that is clearly wrong, not abusing a system, as an excuse for a perceived fault, whilst masquerading dishonest methods, as a legitimate protest. Gran Turismo 6 is not a perfect game by any means, but as time has shown with Gran Turismo 5, the series is very well supported. I am confident that the game we will be playing, hopefully minus the exploiters, will be very different to the one we are playing at this moment in time.

It does not matter how many exploiters stand up and argue their point, the truth is still the truth, even if they refuse to accept it. So the next time you see someone talking about exploiting the game, look upon their character. They are without honour, integrity, or principle. They would rather resort to nefarious methods, than fight the good fight. This is the distinction, which always separates men from boys.

OK, rant over, back to the grind... :Sly:
 
As usual, you miss the point. I don't mind paying for stuff, I just don't like being asked to pay twice.

If you have a problem with that then hard luck. Go and annoy someone else.

At what point did you pay for unlimited credits and to have everything unlocked for you? And AGAIN no one is forcing you to buy credits. There are a number of easily grindable races making well over half a million credits an hour. Glitch users just want everything and want it now.

For myself the gloves came off when using their "microtransaction" system results in one paying nearly $150 real money for one virtual car.


It's a joke calling this system micro. Nothing micro about it.

I got this feeling of being at a high end car auction. Seeing all these fine autos I really want to own. Reality is I can't afford them. I play car games to get the chance to drive those. Now with GT6. I got that same feeling of being broke and not being able afford anything. That left a very bad taste in my mouth.

So yea no guilt what so ever.

Had they offered a fair deal on credits. Then sure. I'd paid up.

Make a pack where we get all the 10 million cars for like $20 and then $1 here you a million.

This would of been closer to microtransactions.

I do agree that the credit prices are way overblown. $10 should buy you 10 mil not 1 mil. In most online games it's fairly normal to pay $10-20 for an item, not $200. But it still does not justify using glitches when you can easily earn the credits in game.
 
They are without honour, integrity, or principle. They would rather resort to nefarious methods, than fight the good fight. This is the distinction, which always separates men from boys.
This sounds completely naive and reactionary. There is zero reason to ban anyone using the glitch when it gives them no unfair advantage over anyone else. There is also no reason to give you honor for just playing the game differently.

If anything this could be one of the best things to happen to the series. I can only hope PD gets the point and sees that their way of doing things is far from optimal.

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Glitch users just want everything and want it now.
Yes obviously, and it's ridiculous that PD decides to address this by putting two price tags on the game content.
 
This sounds completely naive and reactionary. There is zero reason to ban anyone using the glitch when it gives them no unfair advantage over anyone else. There is also no reason to give you honor for just playing the game differently.

If anything this could be one of the best things to happen to the series. I can only hope PD gets the point and sees that their way of doing things is far from optimal.


Yes obviously, and it's ridiculous that PD decides to address this by putting two price tags on the game content.

How is obtaining vehicles and upgrades without any effort or cost NOT obtaining an unfair advantage. If a person is in an online race using classic race cars and they have to drive a charger while someone who glitched is driving a $20 mil ferrari, I'd call that unfair advantage. If they earned it no, it's earned advantage. Glitched it... theyre cheating plain and simple.
 
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