Another Fanatec wheel arrives!

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Has anyone heard anything yet about the turbo s test wheels ever being shipped out?
 
For those complaining about VAT: here in Norway I have to pay 25% import tax + 11,7% toll fee on top of that. So in total I have to multiply the original cost by 1,4 to get the final price. :(

Mr. Latte, could you post some pictures of the inverted pedals please?
 
Mr Latte
Inverted Clubsports

Notes:
I decided with my on going d.i.y cockpit that inverting the pedals would give me more leg room. I will be playing other games sitting in the cockpit and some general PC usage. I dont expect any benifits in racing performance doing this but also think it might be more astheticly pleasing and give easier access for the cockpit.

Actions:
1. Throttle & Clutch Sensors Swapped
2. Throttle & Clutch Pedal Plates Swapped
3. Throttle & Clutch Springs/Damper Swapped
4. All Pedal Plates Inverted
5. Circuit Board Repositioned Closer To Clutch
6. Stand Pedals Upright Rotate 90 Degrees
7. Inverted Action Now Possible With Same Angle Of Pedals As When Flat

Issues:
It may be possible just to switch the plugs on the circuit board of the Clutch & Gas.
I didnt however want to risk damagaing these or incase their is any difference to the actual sensors. With the Clutch cable being about 5cm shorter means it is required to reposition by unscrewing the ciircuit board and create new holes to attach it.

The throttle plate will now be upside down having inverted the pedals.
This would require two new holes to be drilled closer to the top rather than the bottom of the throttle arm. I however may decide to order/purchase a spare pedal from Fanatec or buy new ones to have all my pedals the same and use the longer original throttle plate as some form of foot rest in the cockpit.

In the process of working with mine i snapped a cable on the brake pedal which needs resoldered so be carefull with this. I recommend to remove the plate within the brake pedal when adjusting the springs. Its worse with this pedal as its a much finer cable.

PLEASE NOTE DOING ANY MODIFICATION IS LIKELY TO INVALADATE YOUR WARRENTY!!! - ONLY DO AT YOUR OWN RISK -
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Now that you're doing it, it's ok? You took the mickey out of me for every little decision I made, but now you're doing the same thing (and for the exact same reasons)?

Well, have fun. Hopefully it works out for you. My cockpit will definitely be utilizing inverted CSP's. So, maybe you can do a writeup, like I'm doing with my cockpit. Combine forces, as it were.



;)
 
Delphic Reason
Now that you're doing it, it's ok? You took the mickey out of me for every little decision I made, but now you're doing the same thing (and for the exact same reasons)?

Well, have fun. Hopefully it works out for you. My cockpit will definitely be utilizing inverted CSP's. So, maybe you can do a writeup, like I'm doing with my cockpit. Combine forces, as it were. ;)
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I questioned you if it was worth all the hassle, i didnt say id never consider the same thing. Well i certainly hadnt been planning to do it but started looking into it and suppose i can blame you now for putting the idea into my head. Our previous little spout was about you measuring 20 odd cars and going to what i think was OTT for your project. I dont question your enthausiam just sometimes the need for such levels of work that requires and the logic behind it.

I have all the changes done, took photos as well etc but will show those at a later time maybe over at GTF though were i have my thread. My PC at home is on the blink and cant upload here from work so will be a while...

GT5P btw seems to run fine with this wheel when you have the date corrected. Maybe a later firmware will sort this date issue?
 
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Psychotext
Which makes it £336 vs £433 (GBP)...

(A difference of 97 GBP / 157 USD / 119 EUR)
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So all Europeans and UK buyers should buy in $ then, eh?
Oh wait thats going to loose Fanatec a lot of money.

Cant somehow see them wanting to allow this, well in an official capacity.

As an example I cant go on Amazon and buy a Buttkicker for $299 when its about £400 in the UK neither.
Simply they only ship certain items to certain regions and i reckon you pay your currency for your country or dont order.
 
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I'm not demanding it Latte, simply pointing it out. I'm really struggling to understand why the Euro price is so high, even after VAT is taken into consideration.

Take the VAT (15% for example) off the European price, and you get 418 EUR. Convert that to dollars and you get 595 USD. It just seems strange to me that they're paying 100 USD / 70 EUR less than European customers, especially given Fanatec is a European company.

...and I've bought plenty of things from Europe paying in USD, and things from Japan in EUR. :)
 
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Psychotext
I'm not demanding it Latte, simply pointing it out. I'm really struggling to understand why the Euro price is so high, even after VAT is taken into consideration.

Take the VAT (15% for example) off the European price, and you get 418 EUR. Convert that to dollars and you get 595 USD. It just seems strange to me that they're paying 100 USD / 70 EUR less than European customers, especially given Fanatec is a European company.

...and I've bought plenty of things from Europe paying in USD, and things from Japan in EUR. :)
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Agh you dont get paid in $, just like a USA citizen doesnt get paid in Euro or Sterling. A £200 set of pedals VS a $200 dollar set of pedals is fair in my books. Its the equal to the currency of the region so your comparision isnt justafied in my eyes. I can understand your point though but thats kinda unfair way to look at it.

Look also at the business things your not factoring in.
For instance didnt someone earlier when these were arriving state that they arrived into LA for USA? Thats probably easier to get to their from Hong Kong or wherever they are made. Certainly easier than to Germany and likely cheaper too.
Also carriage/transporting is likely to be cheaper in the USA and state taxes will be less than UK and Europe has so if looking at it in a business sense the costs of getting those products here may be more as could be running costs, advertising and wages etc.
 
I don't get paid in Euros either... does that mean I shouldn't order it unless I can pay in GBP? :P

Aside from that, taxes were already considered in the calculation and shipping costs between China / Europe and China / US are comparable. Wages / running costs shouldn't come into it, because as far as I can tell Fanatec don't have any offices in the US.

It's my fault anyway. I made the mistake of looking at it vs a Logitech G25 and seeing it come out at £140 vs £285 (Standard edition) made me start looking at all the comparisons. I'll leave it there though as I don't want to argue or derail the thread.
 
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Psychotext
I don't get paid in Euros either... does that mean I shouldn't order it unless I can pay in GBP? :P

Aside from that, taxes were already considered in the calculation and shipping costs between China / Europe and China / US are comparable. Wages / running costs shouldn't come into it, because as far as I can tell Fanatec don't have any offices in the US.

It's my fault anyway. I made the mistake of looking at it vs a Logitech G25 and seeing it come out at £140 vs £285 (Standard edition) made me start looking at all the comparisons. I'll leave it there though as I don't want to argue or derail the thread.
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Whats to argue about, you want to buy in $ to pay less just because your currency is higher value. Why do you think Fanatec have the prices the way they are for each region.
 
People need to understand that $100 in US will get you in most cases more than 100€ will in europe even though euro has higher monetary value.

Now please include g25 adapter for people that have orderd turbo S.
 
Mr Latte
Why do you think Fanatec have the prices the way they are for each region.
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That doesn't really make sense. The simple fact is that they get 70 Euro less for every wheel they sell in the US vs every wheel they sell in the EU. Sounds more to me like what they think the market will bear rather than currency strength.
 
Psychotext
That doesn't really make sense. The simple fact is that they get 70 Euro less for every wheel they sell in the US vs every wheel they sell in the EU. Sounds more to me like what they think the market will bear rather than currency strength.
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Like I suggested to you the cost to Fanatec to get the wheel to USA the input/output taxes imposed on companies may be less compared to UK or Europe. If it costs them less then they can sell their for less. Things generally are cheaper in the USA but profit margins could for all we know be better from USA sales than other regions with yes higher prices but also higher costs and taxes to sell them in that region.

If Fanatec allowed everyone to pay via $ then it would cost them much more in profit loss. Why should they lose 70 Euro on UK/Euro sales when it seems obvious the prices for these regions are to cover higher costs. Therefore your charged the varying prices to the region of delivery, thats my take on it. Likewise the price of competiting products in each of these countries varies. How is Fanatec any different in this respect?
 
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I'm not sure what the ultimate justification for it is, but I can tell you that most goods & services in the UK, cost about the same in Pounds as they do in the US in dollars. ie. a meal in a nice restaurant in London might be 100 Pounds, where it would be 100 dollars in New York. It sucks, as I know people in the UK don't earn correspondingly higher wages. On the positive side, you do have a queen! ;)

(Come to think of it... so do we! :irked:)
 
Biggles
I'm not sure what the ultimate justification for it is, but I can tell you that most goods & services in the UK, cost about the same in Pounds as they do in the US in dollars. ie. a meal in a nice restaurant in London might be 100 Pounds, where it would be 100 dollars in New York. It sucks, as I know people in the UK don't earn correspondingly higher wages. On the positive side, you do have a queen! ;)

(Come to think of it... so do we! :irked:)
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We also have a prime minister who sucks bigtime.
 
Anyone use the porsche wheels with Enthusia? i ended up having to use the paddles because I didn't see how to set the game up to use the sequential shifter or clutch pedal.

I am having some troubles with iRacing force feedback still...
rFactor's fine.
 
I think you should take enthusia issue directly to fanatec. It might be hard if game developers have quit supporting the game. I also will play enthusia when i get fanatec if i already do not have forza 3.
 
Raitziger
I think you should take enthusia issue directly to fanatec. It might be hard if game developers have quit supporting the game. I also will play enthusia when i get fanatec if i already do not have forza 3.
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Fanatec only officially supports PC/PS3/and Xbox 360 games. The fact that you can play a PS2 game through your PS3 does not mean the game will necessarily work with the wheel. Although, I sure hope it does work well with GT3/GT4, since the Fanatec wheel doesn't support the PS2.

Has anyone tried hooking up the wheel to a pS2?



;)
 
Gabkicks
i played gt4 and enthusia on a ps2 w/ the turbo wheel.
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Could you use the shifter?

Did the regular Turbo wheel use a dongle to connect to the PS3/PS2? or a wired connection?

If the Turbo S works on my PS2 as well, I'll be chuffed to bits.

My PS2 looks far better, playing PS2 games, on my HDTV, then my PS3 does doing the same. Seems a bit odd to me, but there ya go.




;)
 
I use the dongle.
i think i used the sequential shifter in GT4. i didnt get it to work in enthusia. i basically end up moving my monitor to the side, and sitting my old TV on my desk if i want to play with a steering wheel -_-. I wish i bought the T220HD instead of T220 so i could just plug my ps3 into it.
 
To comment on PS2 support. Yes it does not officially support PS2 but how many top PS2 driving games are there? I think under five anyways so supporting top ps2 games might not be so big of a burden.
 
Psychotext
It would appear the Pure version is now sold out on the Fanatec website.

I have a very expensive decision to make. =/
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The Pure wheel has not sold out.
It has only sold out at the special prices.
I ordered the Pure wheel a few days ago and paid the full price 199euros.
Here is a conformation e-mail for my order that i got from Fanatec.


Hello Robert,

thanks a lot for your Fanatec_Gameshop order no. 2590 and the pre-payment.
The current estimated shipping date is end of September.
The delivery of the Pure edition includes a G25 adaptor cable.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Best regards

Fanatec_Gameshop
Sabine Eiben
 
Yeah, my mistake. They should really remove that whole "special pricing" box as seeing "SOLD OUT" in big writing at the top is a little misleading. :)
 
Psychotext
Yeah, my mistake. They should really remove that whole "special pricing" box as seeing "SOLD OUT" in big writing at the top is a little misleading. :)
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Yes there website is confusimg.
They should remove the special price offer where it says sold out as it could be loosing them sales.
I e-mailed them first to make sure i could still purchase the wheel.
 
geordie
Yes there website is confusimg.
They should remove the special price offer where it says sold out as it could be loosing them sales.
I e-mailed them first to make sure i could still purchase the wheel.
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And what is the deal with the shifters and pedal cables, it says there is not enough stock but you can check out how many are in stock on the order page, but you cant.

Their web sales structure seems very floored, i have never used paypal, i guess you have to prepay, so how much exactly will i need in uk pounds to cover all my purchases and at what exchange rates.

Why cant each nations web shop show the correct currency price seeming as you have to choose your nation from a huge list, and allow purchase by debit cards at least.

Ive been holding off on this, and this lack of simplicity in making an order is only delaying and making me hesitant to pull the trigger on it as well as the lack of product availability, in going for a pure i need the G25 and ms pedal cable, but as yet i believe this still has yet to appear, lack of shifter pack availabilty when you order and no info on expected stock update, and the continued postponing of the wheel itself all give me the jitters in such times where finances are exceptionally tight.
 
GTXLR
And what is the deal with the shifters and pedal cables, it says there is not enough stock but you can check out how many are in stock on the order page, but you cant.

Their web sales structure seems very floored, i have never used paypal, i guess you have to prepay, so how much exactly will i need in uk pounds to cover all my purchases and at what exchange rates.

Why cant each nations web shop show the correct currency price seeming as you have to choose your nation from a huge list, and allow purchase by debit cards at least.

Ive been holding off on this, and this lack of simplicity in making an order is only delaying and making me hesitant to pull the trigger on it as well as the lack of product availability, in going for a pure i need the G25 and ms pedal cable, but as yet i believe this still has yet to appear, lack of shifter pack availabilty when you order and no info on expected stock update, and the continued postponing of the wheel itself all give me the jitters in such times where finances are exceptionally tight.
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As i have ordered the Pure edition i can tell you that you are charged at the exchange rate for the day that you order.
The wheel cost me 199.95 euros and shipping at 10 euros.
Total price 209.95 euros
Paypal charged me £184.92.
The exchange rate on that day was £1 = 1.13535 euros
Paypal convert the euros to pounds and charge it to your credit card.
I also e-mailed Fanatec about the cable for G25 and 360 wheel pedals and they replied that the cable will in the box with the wheel.
I hope that helps.
 
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