I got GT5 on launch day. Since I have no rig set up yet I refuse to play the game without the G25. My lap times with the dual shock are horrible, and with an awesome wobbly TV dinner table that I broke haha its alot better. Because of this I've been playing the **** out of F1. Just got onto season 2, racing for Virgin because I kept DNFing the first season because it was literally impossible to do anything without spinning out, getting spun, or getting flats. So far season 2 seems alot less challenging.